The End of the World: A Political Thread. A New Hope coming soon!

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JinCA said:
If only those Bernie bro's weren't to nasty....oh wait look there are idiots who support everyone lol.
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Pro tip: Twitter is not the real world. If this is a real person, they are a moron who should be ignored (more likely they are a troll account invented by someone at 4chan).
 
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Kerosene31 said:
Pro tip: Twitter is not the real world. If this is a real person, they are a moron who should be ignored (more likely they are a troll account invented by someone at 4chan).
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She's supposedly a comedian, funny thing though EVERY TIME a supposed Sanders supporter is rude on twitter it's not only taken as legit but blamed on Bernie no matter how many times he disavows that kind of behavior. That whole Bernie bro's nonsense is more media creation than reality. They get blamed for Hillary losing, the media never talks about how more Sanders supporters voted for Hillary in 2016 than Hillary supporters did Obama in 2008.

Twitter isn't even 25% of the real world but the vocal minority there are given far too much power and it's absurd. The media reports on twitter outrage, political campaigns bow to the loudest voices there, companies fire people over twitter outrage etc.
 
JinCA said:
She's supposedly a comedian, funny thing though EVERY TIME a supposed Sanders supporter is rude on twitter it's not only taken as legit but blamed on Bernie no matter how many times he disavows that kind of behavior. That whole Bernie bro's nonsense is more media creation than reality. They get blamed for Hillary losing, the media never talks about how more Sanders supporters voted for Hillary in 2016 than Hillary supporters did Obama in 2008.

Twitter isn't even 25% of the real world but the vocal minority there are given far too much power and it's absurd. The media reports on twitter outrage, political campaigns bow to the loudest voices there, companies fire people over twitter outrage etc.
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Probably because it isn't true.

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How Bernie’s 2020 Map Might Change Without The #NeverHillary Vote

Bernie Sanders picked up support in some unusual places during his 2016 campaign to be the Democratic presidential nominee. The self-described democratic social…
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74% voted for Hillary

Exit polls: Obama wins big among young, minority voters - CNN.com

Strong support from young and minority voters propelled Barack Obama on the road to the White House, exit polls showed Tuesday.
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84% to Obama
 
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JinCA said:
She's supposedly a comedian, funny thing though EVERY TIME a supposed Sanders supporter is rude on twitter it's not only taken as legit but blamed on Bernie no matter how many times he disavows that kind of behavior. That whole Bernie bro's nonsense is more media creation than reality. They get blamed for Hillary losing, the media never talks about how more Sanders supporters voted for Hillary in 2016 than Hillary supporters did Obama in 2008.

Twitter isn't even 25% of the real world but the vocal minority there are given far too much power and it's absurd. The media reports on twitter outrage, political campaigns bow to the loudest voices there, companies fire people over twitter outrage etc.
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Bernie does not get blamed for random morons on twitter. Anyone with half a brain knows to not take anything on twitter from unverified sources for anything.

What Bernie Bros get blamed for is attacking people. Not randoms on twitter, but real people. If I were to go on a Trump forum, I'd expect to get treated as an enemy, the problem is that Bernie Bros make me feel just as unwelcome on this side.
 
Kerosene31 said:
Bernie does not get blamed for random morons on twitter. Anyone with half a brain knows to not take anything on twitter from unverified sources for anything.

What Bernie Bros get blamed for is attacking people. Not randoms on twitter, but real people. If I were to go on a Trump forum, I'd expect to get treated as an enemy, the problem is that Bernie Bros make me feel just as unwelcome on this side.
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We know not all Bernie supporters are like this but its silly to pretend there isn't a larger percentage than other supporters that are straight up nasty to every other side of the primary. He is the only one that is pure. Complete cult of personality. Its why Warren is deemed a snake and a sell out by so many despite being as about as close to Bernie politically as anyone holding office.

It Is no coincidence that polling throughout showed Bernie Sanders supporters less likely to support the other candidates should they win. Bernie is a good guy but this the campaign he put together. His former press secretary has been trashing every Democrat she can think of since Bernie dropped out so its no surprise you would find supporters who are also unwelcoming. He put people in important positions that really want to just burn it all down and that trickle downs to supporters.
 
Bernie also is uncompromising in his approach to anything - and that pushes down to his supporters. Politics is about compromise and not getting everything you want. Is Biden my first choice? Nope, but I'll compromise, because Biden is my best option by far. Fighting during the primary for what you want is fine- that's what it is for. Fighting after is just tearing the party apart and handing an easy win to Trump.
 
Kerosene31 said:
Bernie does not get blamed for random morons on twitter. Anyone with half a brain knows to not take anything on twitter from unverified sources for anything.

What Bernie Bros get blamed for is attacking people. Not randoms on twitter, but real people. If I were to go on a Trump forum, I'd expect to get treated as an enemy, the problem is that Bernie Bros make me feel just as unwelcome on this side.
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I guess you don't watch much tv, it's mostly women but they blame Sanders for his "supporters" all the time, hell during the debates Warren (I believe it was her) was saying they were responsible for their voters actions just to score points against him it was idiotic. The tweet I linked was a woman trashing Bernie, she's not a bot or a 4chan creation look at her feed. My point was there are idiots who support all candidates and people only focus on Bernie's for some reason. Look at how many people are out there saying they'd vote for Trump over him and they are democrats, same thing with calling him a misogynist etc. They have been trying to make him into some kind of anti woman candidate every since he ran against Hillary and it's pathetic.
 
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I guess you don't watch much tv, it's mostly women but they blame Sanders for his "supporters" all the time, hell during the debates Warren (I believe it was her) was saying they were responsible for their voters actions just to score points against him it was idiotic. The tweet I linked was a woman trashing Bernie, she's not a bot or a 4chan creation look at her feed. My point was there are idiots who support all candidates and people only focus on Bernie's for some reason. Look at how many people are out there saying they'd vote for Trump over him and they are democrats, same thing with calling him a misogynist etc. They have been trying to make him into some kind of anti woman candidate every since he ran against Hillary and it's pathetic.
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Warren played the SJW card and plummeted because of it (and possibly cost herself a nod for VP).

Bernie lost because his policies are extreme and he alienates much of his own party (myself included). It isn't the Bernie Bros or the SJWs supposedly upset by the Bernie Bros. Most people are smart enough to ignore this nonsense. Guess what? We'd have fallen in line with Bernie if it came to that.
 
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Warren played the SJW card and plummeted because of it (and possibly cost herself a nod for VP).

Bernie lost because his policies are extreme and he alienates much of his own party (myself included). It isn't the Bernie Bros or the SJWs supposedly upset by the Bernie Bros. Most people are smart enough to ignore this nonsense. Guess what? We'd have fallen in line with Bernie if it came to that.
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I'm not blaming Bernie losing on that, I already said he lost fair and square this time, the other side smartened up and got together before it was too late and that was the one thing he couldn't have happen if he wanted to win. He didn't have a majority but in a race with several people you don't need one, once it's down to 1v1 you obviously can't win without it.

My point was that Bernie voters all get called rude, misogynist etc, he gets attacked like crazy (like the tweet I posted) and by people all over social media, hell even guests on MSNBC and CNN attacked him personally on air, one said he made her skin crawl, another called him misogynist etc, other candidates weren't getting attacked like that by the press. Again that's not why he lost I just want it to be clear that there are jerks who support everyone and for some reason the only ones that ever get pointed out are Bernie supporters.
 
JinCA said:
My point was that Bernie voters all get called rude, misogynist etc, he gets attacked like crazy (like the tweet I posted) and by people all over social media, hell even guests on MSNBC and CNN attacked him personally on air, one said he made her skin crawl, another called him misogynist etc, other candidates weren't getting attacked like that by the press. Again that's not why he lost I just want it to be clear that there are jerks who support everyone and for some reason the only ones that ever get pointed out are Bernie supporters.
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It is politics in 2020 (which is barely politics at all but tribalism). Everyone gets attacked. Try being a true independent on any far left or far right forum.

You can't use social media as any indication of how larger groups think - because it isn't a fair representation. Social media is designed to show you what (it thinks) you want. My twitter feed is filled with anti-Trumpers. It is designed to make me think that everyone thinks like me. A lot of people do, but far from everyone. Based on my twitter feed, Trump would lose by 90%+. That's obviously not true.

Also, CNN/MSNBC/Fox is not news. It is infotainment based around ratings. CNN is the enemy of Democrats. Unlike Fox who tries to spin a nice, consistent narrative as best they can, CNN just goes for the ratings. In 2016, they covered Trump 24/7 and barely showed Hillary in a positive light (in the months leading up to the election they barely talked about her at all). They spent more time trashing Gary Johnson than they did praising Hillary. Trump gave them ratings and that's what they focused on. CNN is fine for people who want to sit and hear various opinions, but that's mostly what it is - opinions.
 
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Such a prick

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How can anyone with a brain listen to a nurse say she's been using the same mask for that long and that PPE is hit or miss and then tell her "that's just you" and turn around and say " we have so much we are going to start sending it to other countries" How about sending it to her hospital a******!!! lol Of course he can't because we really don't have a big stockpile of it he's just trying to cover his enormous ass.
 
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