What game wins 'Best Graphics of 2014'?

How could anyone think black bars prove the performance advantage? I totally understand nobody has claimed that here ever.
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I for one don't think it's credible or responsible to pick and choose when a developer is lying or being forthcoming. I see no reason to NOT trust a developer that says that they maxed out a system. I see no reason to NOT trust a developer who states they made a design decision to make a game cinematic. However, while I feel they are both being honest, there are caveats to their comments. The one developer maxed the system out to the best of their knowledge, with the current tools that they have in the time frame given. Then, the developer that chose to have cinematic black bars did so for a design decision, which ALSO appealed to their need for additional resources (something these new consoles are seriously lacking in....power).

But you are of course, as gods given right, are free to believe who you want, when you want. I personally don't think one can have it both ways, and then carry out a credible discussion....unless of course they have assets showing that the developer or publisher has a history of deceiving, and documentation.

I believe every circumstance is unique and should be judged on it's own vs throwing everything into one group and saying all things are the same when it comes to subjects like this.
 
If you think the black bars are there for cosmetics (in which every gamer has complained about) I'm not going to argue it anymore.

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"in which every gamer has complained about".

I would like to use your Jennifer Lawrence gif here and instruct you to understand something called perspective.

You're nearing group C for me.
 
1 year gone with nothing to show us that "truth"

Where have you been the first year? PS4 is clearly more powerful. Again, we will see the full power more in exclusives, just like last gen.

I wouldn't call this list "nothing".

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-xbox-one-vs-ps4-year-one



  • 13 games where we have parity or very minor differences
  • 6 titles where each has its advantages/disadvantages - no overall winner
  • 6 titles where a 900p to 1080p (or equivalent) PS4 resolution boost is the only real differentiating factor
  • 14 titles where the PS4 advantage is noticeable and isn't just limited to resolution (performance or visual effects enhancements too)
  • 1 title with a clear Xbox One advantage
 
"in which every gamer has complained about".

I would like to use your Jennifer Lawrence gif here and instruct you to understand something called perspective.

You're nearing group C for me.

Put me in group F. That way I don't have to worry about my scoring lowering any further.
 
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Where have you been the first year? PS4 is clearly more powerful. Again, we will see the full power more in exclusives, just like last gen.

Disagree. Exclusives have no more advantage than multiplat games. The console architecture isn't a black box like last gen. And there are some really smart devs out there making multiplats. UE4 and CryEngine are still one of the most powerful and feature rich graphics engines to date which can take full advantage of all hardware.
 
Disagree. Exclusives have no more advantage than multiplat games. The console architecture isn't a black box like last gen. And there are some really smart devs out there making multiplats. UE4 and CryEngine are still one of the most powerful and feature rich graphics engines to date which can take full advantage of all hardware.

If a company has multiple platforms to develop for 1 title, it'd be logical to assume that they aren't going to develop "to the metal" for each platform.
 
Put me in group F. That way I don't have to worry about my scoring lowering any further.

There is no group F. Only groups A, B, and C. Just try to remember that your posts aren't garbage here. I think you keep forgetting that fact. Your posts are probably being read by upwards of 20 or so people. Try to think of them and don't hit "Post Reply" so quickly before you really know you want your name attached to a particular post. You obviously have some ability. It's time we start finding that ability a little more often. Also, I'm only saying this to you because, compared to many other members, you have shown that you can provide great content for the site. Good luck.
 
Is hard to say right now, I mean Tomb Raider very well could be. The Inevitable Forza 6 will be a worthy contender(they always are, imo), Halo 5 seems to be getting lots of praise by fans. Plus, I would not be shocked if MS announces 1 or 2 things for 2015 at E3.

Honestly, there are a lot of possible GOTY contenders for 2015 across all platforms. However, we have yet to see much, if anything, from a lot of the obvious contenders.

Like Quantum Break. That game will be a contender if it lives up to their usual pedigree. It's too early to know anyway. There should be plenty off announcements. Still, from what I'm seeing, the next GOtY will go to the Witcher 3 ;)
 
Couldn't be that these indie devs are guys and gals who simply don't have the talent to build something which takes advantage of the hardware, could it?

Of course it could.

Devs, artists, and designers build and create to the best of their abilities... Jonathan Blow isn't capable of building something or even designing something which would truly stress these consoles.
They could have all the talent in the world, but without resources and a large team, your chances of digging deep enough to tap put a system are pretty slim.
 
Like Quantum Break. That game will be a contender if it lives up to their usual pedigree. It's too early to know anyway. There should be plenty off announcements. Still, from what I'm seeing, the next GOtY will go to the Witcher 3 ;)

I certainly wouldn't bet against that.
 
There is no group F. Only groups A, B, and C. Just try to remember that your posts aren't garbage here. I think you keep forgetting that fact. Your posts are probably being read by upwards of 20 or so people. Try to think of them and don't hit "Post Reply" so quickly before you really know you want your name attached to a particular post. You obviously have some ability. It's time we start finding that ability a little more often. Also, I'm only saying this to you because, compared to many other members, you have shown that you can provide great content for the site. Good luck.

You know, for some who cries about insults, you sure do insult people frequently. This a hella condescending post. I wish your own posts were actually as quality as you seem to think they are.
 
There is no group F. Only groups A, B, and C. Just try to remember that your posts aren't garbage here. I think you keep forgetting that fact. Your posts are probably being read by upwards of 20 or so people. Try to think of them and don't hit "Post Reply" so quickly before you really know you want your name attached to a particular post. You obviously have some ability. It's time we start finding that ability a little more often. Also, I'm only saying this to you because, compared to many other members, you have shown that you can provide great content for the site. Good luck.

LOL! Ok then.. and what are your "abilities"?
 
Recently I've had the chance to play on a 4k TV.
Xbox fan boy and proud of it. With that being said. Best Graphics is way to general. Comparing the types of games would be better.
I've been very limited this year, but Halo 4, looked sweet on the MCC. KI has its backgrounds and the characters themselves. While Ryse still looks good for being a launch title.
Not saying these are the best just giving examples.
 
Recently I've had the chance to play on a 4k TV.
Xbox fan boy and proud of it. With that being said. Best Graphics is way to general. Comparing the types of games would be better.
I've been very limited this year, but Halo 4, looked sweet on the MCC. KI has its backgrounds and the characters themselves. While Ryse still looks good for being a launch title.
Not saying these are the best just giving examples.
KI does look pretty good on a 4k set....its 900p scales nicely/doesn't have that soft/blurrier look that some games do.
 
I wouldn't call this list "nothing".

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-xbox-one-vs-ps4-year-one
  • 13 games where we have parity or very minor differences
  • 6 titles where each has its advantages/disadvantages - no overall winner
  • 6 titles where a 900p to 1080p (or equivalent) PS4 resolution boost is the only real differentiating factor
  • 14 titles where the PS4 advantage is noticeable and isn't just limited to resolution (performance or visual effects enhancements too)
  • 1 title with a clear Xbox One advantage
I wouldn't call it nothing either and thank you for the numbers. Everyone understands ps4 is more powerful but isn't pulling a 360 on the ps3. So like devs have mentioned before some of you refuse to quote they're closer in performance then last years consoles and your points have obviously proved this better then I could have remembered.

With all the xb1 growing pains over the esram learning curve and underdeveloped tools and SDK 19 games are are parity. Now if you could find out for us if these 19 games have come out after the next 20 on your list that will speak volumes towards the truth. (sorry I have to go to work) 20 games have a clear advantage on ps4 I'm guessing do to the hiccups of the 1st year development on the xb1 hardware? The last game on your list says xb1 has the clear advantage? How could that be even possible? With all that power 1080p/60fps is the measure of greatness this gen.

@ the start of this gen xb1 wasn't able to hit 1080p/30fps everyone knows this and that is where the more powerful ps4 with the better dev tools @ the time racked up those 20 titles. @ the end of this year aren't all xb1 titles 1080p/30fps so that is where the 19 games are... "Parity"?
 
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Who thought Xbox One couldn't do 1080p..lol?
PS3/Xbox 360 could do 1080p.
I kid you not there was an article/report stating xb1 was incapable of 1080p this gen like WTF?
 
There is no group F. Only groups A, B, and C. Just try to remember that your posts aren't garbage here. I think you keep forgetting that fact. Your posts are probably being read by upwards of 20 or so people. Try to think of them and don't hit "Post Reply" so quickly before you really know you want your name attached to a particular post. You obviously have some ability. It's time we start finding that ability a little more often. Also, I'm only saying this to you because, compared to many other members, you have shown that you can provide great content for the site. Good luck.
I missed this whole grouping post could you break it down again or slap a link on here.

Thanks
Your biggest fan.
 
I wouldn't call it nothing either and thank you for the numbers. Everyone understands ps4 is more powerful but isn't pulling a 360 on the ps3. So like devs have mentioned before some of you refuse to quote they're closer in performance then last years consoles and your points have obviously proved this better then I could have remembered.

With all the xb1 growing pains over the esram learning curve and underdeveloped tools and SDK 19 games are are parity. Now if you could find out for us if these 19 games have come out after the next 20 on your list that will speak volumes towards the truth. (sorry I have to go to work) 20 games have a clear advantage on ps4 I'm guessing do to the hiccups of the 1st year development on the xb1 hardware? The last game on your list says xb1 has the clear advantage? How could that be even possible? With all that power 1080p/60fps is the measure of greatness this gen.

@ the start of this gen xb1 wasn't able to hit 1080p/30fps everyone knows this and that is where the more powerful ps4 with the better dev tools @ the time racked up those 20 titles. @ the end of this year aren't all xb1 titles 1080p/30fps so that is where the 19 games are... "Parity"?

The one clear advantage for X1 was AC unity and it can be now explained to be due to MS allowing more access to the 7th CPU. Another theory is the X1 may have a more efficient coding system right now for that title. Lastly, multiplatforms rarely develop and utilize each console to their fullest. Since MS had a deal with AC Unity, it wouldn't come as a surprise to me if they sent help to get the X1 version running more efficiently.

And yes you did say nothing out in the 1st year showed the difference. The article I just linked proved you wrong.

To answer your question, Just off the top of my head I can think of Metro redux, shadows of mordor, dragon age inquisition, lords of the fallen, PES 2015, the golf club that are games which came out recently to be better on the 4 than the 1.
 
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So a best graphics thread turns into a PS4 Vs. X1 thread with at least one person wanting to pit the PS4 against PC as well?

You silly bastatds. :laugh:
 
The one clear advantage for X1 was AC unity and it can be now explained to be due to MS allowing more access to the 7th CPU. Another theory is the X1 may have a more efficient coding system right now for that title. Lastly, multiplatforms rarely develop and utilize each console to their fullest. Since MS had a deal with AC Unity, it wouldn't come as a surprise to me if they sent help to get the X1 version running more efficiently.

And yes you did say nothing out in the 1st year showed the difference. The article I just linked proved you wrong.

To answer your question, Just off the top of my head I can think of Metro redux, shadows of mordor, dragon age inquisition, lords of the fallen, PES 2015, the golf club that are games which came out recently to be better on the 4 than the 1.

That is what I like about you Mangoes no matter what we can have a mature conversation even when your wrong 9/10 times.:wink:
All I'm saying is the xb1 titles from here on in should... parity for the multiplats. What parity means for everyone is subjective. @ 1st it was resolution then the moved the goalposts went to fps when res was equal then when that was met the microscopes will be pulled out like last gen so... parity.
I'm sorry, what did you say?

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looks great, now who the %$#& would lose a race to a beetle?
 
I wouldn't call it nothing either and thank you for the numbers. Everyone understands ps4 is more powerful but isn't pulling a 360 on the ps3. So like devs have mentioned before some of you refuse to quote they're closer in performance then last years consoles and your points have obviously proved this better then I could have remembered.

With all the xb1 growing pains over the esram learning curve and underdeveloped tools and SDK 19 games are are parity. Now if you could find out for us if these 19 games have come out after the next 20 on your list that will speak volumes towards the truth. (sorry I have to go to work) 20 games have a clear advantage on ps4 I'm guessing do to the hiccups of the 1st year development on the xb1 hardware? The last game on your list says xb1 has the clear advantage? How could that be even possible? With all that power 1080p/60fps is the measure of greatness this gen.

@ the start of this gen xb1 wasn't able to hit 1080p/30fps everyone knows this and that is where the more powerful ps4 with the better dev tools @ the time racked up those 20 titles. @ the end of this year aren't all xb1 titles 1080p/30fps so that is where the 19 games are... "Parity"?
Huh?
 
The one clear advantage for X1 was AC unity and it can be now explained to be due to MS allowing more access to the 7th CPU. Another theory is the X1 may have a more efficient coding system right now for that title. Lastly, multiplatforms rarely develop and utilize each console to their fullest. Since MS had a deal with AC Unity, it wouldn't come as a surprise to me if they sent help to get the X1 version running more efficiently.

And yes you did say nothing out in the 1st year showed the difference. The article I just linked proved you wrong.

To answer your question, Just off the top of my head I can think of Metro redux, shadows of mordor, dragon age inquisition, lords of the fallen, PES 2015, the golf club that are games which came out recently to be better on the 4 than the 1.
There is a golf club game, FO REAL! Im running to the nearest walmart to get that! Wow a golf club game.I actually did hear of some of those games you mentioned.
 
That is what I like about you Mangoes no matter what we can have a mature conversation even when your wrong 9/10 times.:wink:
All I'm saying is the xb1 titles from here on in should... parity for the multiplats. What parity means for everyone is subjective. @ 1st it was resolution then the moved the goalposts went to fps when res was equal then when that was met the microscopes will be pulled out like last gen so... parity.

looks great, now who the %$#& would lose a race to a beetle?

Yes, I am a strong believer in that most developers don't have enough time to develop every title for every platform to the fullest. Therefore I hypothesize that as developers get more and more familiar with both consoles, you will see more parity as in similar res and fps, graphical effects etc.

My definition of parity though is that everything is virtually the same for the platforms involved. For example, if one platform has more visual effects like more foliage then I wouldn't consider that parity although I would agree it's not a very big deal.
 
There is a golf club game, FO REAL! Im running to the nearest walmart to get that! Wow a golf club game.I actually did hear of some of those games you mentioned.

Yes. Last I heard the X1 version is running at 720p. Not sure if they upgraded it since then.
 
There is a golf club game, FO REAL! Im running to the nearest walmart to get that! Wow a golf club game.I actually did hear of some of those games you mentioned.

The Golf Club is a digital-only title. It's not half bad, I play it daily.