Yeah i don't think they're listening. I mean, Greenberg is still employed lol.
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For those that don't Optimus Code, he's a former developer. Moved to another career to get away from the crunch. He still has friends within the industry. He's often a guest on my buddy's podcast and has been going at it with Xbox guys for the longest because he's been very critical of Xbox. Something new has been leaked to him to put this out there. Last week he also told Xbox fans to look out for the Xbox equivalent of DLSS because it's a game changer. Not sure if this is related or not.
I'm getting a feeling that the 1st party devs are way ahead of the curve in terms of getting results with the hardware which is why there's been such a disconnect in developer narratives. Bill Stillwell said last week on a podcast that their devs are getting scary good results with ML up-scaling. Combo of that, Microsoft's R&D in procedural tech the past 2 years and VRS may net some shocking early results.
ID@Xbox Sending "Tons More" Xbox Series X Devkits to Devs This Summer; "Full Steam Ahead on Next-Gen"
Today, during the Guerrilla Collective show, ID@Xbox director Chris Charla provided some insight about Microsoft's plans for indie developers and next-gen.
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Both the Sony show and MS show were pretty dismal IMO. I hope July is the one.
Oh come on now the Sony show was the cat's meow. In reality though, I wouldn't put one show above the other IMO.
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This why they should make Aaron Greenberg shut the f*** up.
We can agree to disagree. While some of the games for the Inside Xbox show were interesting, none of it showed off what the XSX was capable of, or perceived capable of. And when the event is hyped as "Tomorrow changes the game" or "first look at next generation gameplay", you need to prove it and they fell short. And they know it.
Sony's reveal took all the criticisms MS had to eat in May and made sure they didn't repeat them. Or at least not in obvious ways. Sony is a master of presentation and they nailed it. Sony leaned into its strength as a publisher of technically beautiful, narrative-driven exclusive games hard. Something xbox has been well documented to be lacking.
IMO, I think what we're seeing with marketing is the true difference between the 2 consoles. Microsoft don't care what you play on as long as your are in their ecosystem. Xbox One, Series X or PC, as long as you are subscribed to Live or Game-pass they don't care.
Sony on the other hand really wants you to get a PS5 and move on from your PS4.
Agreed but he's not the only one that should have to take it on the chin. Phil Spencer was hyping up the leap from Xbox One to Xbox Series X was equivalent to the jump from 2D to 3D graphics a week or so earlier. If you're gonna make that claim, you got to back it up. Nothing they've shown so far matches that claim.
this is why I am of the opinion that they do not hype the July event. Let the games talk.
don’t set expectations. Simply announce the event, promote the event, but don’t hype it up.
Certain people are going to be disappointed no matter what. But, if the rumored games they have in development are true, and they have a good showing, that will be what creates the hype.
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They’ve only shown like two titles, hellblade 2 and project Mara, but even then I don’t believe they’ve mentioned them running on xsx hardware. I think the only games they’ve show running on said hardware is halo 5, fusion frenzy, Forza 6, ori, and state of decay.
It is an apples to oranges comparison. Lockheart is a third of the power of the XSX. The PS5 sku difference is just a disc drive.
Not sure why it would shake LH plans either.
The problem I have is that even though that MS told us that their show was about 3rd party and partners and was trailers and gameplay, there were more trailers compared to game play. Not a good start. However, Sony had the same problem, including trailers for GT7 and HZD 2, first party. Sony had more trailers than gameplay. MS was lambasted for Ubisoft presenting Assassin's Creed V at 30fps, when nearly every game, including the presentation, at Sony was 30 fps. MS gets whacked for showing 3rd party indies at a 3rd party presentation, and then Sony shows indies at their first party presentation, and it's A OK. The indies Sony showed mostly were not appealing, at least to the core audience.
The only thing I think that Sony did right was show off Ratchet game play, even in pre-alpha footage. No GT7 "new" gameplay that specifically shows of the use of the SSD. No gameplay of Demon Souls. No game play of HZD2.
I actually just saw this as I was typing this to you, and I totally agree:
(assuming the LH rumors are true)
2 sku's that are cheaper and both are likely diskless.
On the XSX side one in dramatically weaker than the main unit.
Bad marketing on MS part vs good marketing on Sony's part is how it shakes up LH plans.
Not to be mean but....
If you don't see it than you are like MS and don't have a clue so you are part of the small market this will appeal to.
I thought there was a big story from Inside Xbox. They didn't tell it well. I did think those games were a sign to come. Those games may not have looked much better than this generations AAA games....but they were miles beyond what Indies were capable of in 2013. The ease of outputting production values similar to this gens AAA games by smaller studios is a big deal and I consider it a really exciting benefit of next gen. Like usual, Xbox marketing missed the messaging mark.
A disk less sku will not knock much off the price. Lockhart should be significantly cheaper than any of the other SKUs. So , no, a discless PS5 doesn't make a difference. The fact you ignorre this is hilarious.
I have to agree with Hedon. Both shows were pretty poor. The PS5 show was very generic. We never really got any info on anything they showed. The GT7 intro mentioned a revamped campaign but we saw nothing of it. No PS5 price either.
MS f***ed up but have a chance to redeem themselves in July. Is Sony doing more events?
Oh, come on, Sony showed more first party games at their event than Microsoft did at their... checks notes... third party event. Besides, AC Valhalla is going to be a lol-worthy 30fps on the Series X while the wizards at Sony are showing off stunning games at... checks notes... a crisp 30 fps.
To be honest, if MS' first party event shows 15 minutes of Halo gameplay, 15 of Hellblade, and 10 each of Fable / Forza / whatever the Initiative is working on, and then a couple of minutes per game of trailers for other games their studios are working on in the next two years, that wouldn't be good enough for some. Sadly, they're not going to come anywhere near that anyhow.
This will likely be what? More hardware talk, maybe Lockhart? Services like online, gamepass, streaming, etc?
If rumours are true then MS is f***ed anyway. The rumours suggest xbox has very few new IPs to show. So expect the same narrative as this gen.Oh, come on, Sony showed more first party games at their event than Microsoft did at their... checks notes... third party event. Besides, AC Valhalla is going to be a lol-worthy 30fps on the Series X while the wizards at Sony are showing off stunning games at... checks notes... a crisp 30 fps.
To be honest, if MS' first party event shows 15 minutes of Halo gameplay, 15 of Hellblade, and 10 each of Fable / Forza / whatever the Initiative is working on, and then a couple of minutes per game of trailers for other games their studios are working on in the next two years, that wouldn't be good enough for some. Sadly, they're not going to come anywhere near that anyhow.
If the rumors of MS/Xbox's imminent collapse ever stopped... then I'd be concerned. 
The difference between MS announcing 1st party titles and PS, is that MS usually announces them if they are coming within the year. PS tends to announces titles that will launch anytime.
The person who originally called the date of Sony's event said they are doing another in August
I think peoples expectations for these shows are sometimes out of whack. Look back at the 2013 reveals and E3s shows for the two of them. I would be surprised if Sony and MS don't better those by a good deal.
My expectations are simple. Games. New games. Gameplay. Game info.
We used to get that. Remember whe MS had live game demos at E3. That was awesome.
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