It's Game Over For The Xbox One

Is the Xbox Done?


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I stand corrected. I see there is an emulator for Linux allowing you to play Xbox games.
Edit* oops! Didn't mean to quote you, so I'll just say 'Hey gurlfriend!!"
Cause many see no need to own a Xbox when you can play its games(improved|free Xbox live) on the PC.
It's a deprecating train of thought though.

Why lead with that argument when you know you're not going to practice what you're preaching?

Do you play SFV more on PC? Will you be playing Destiny 2 mainly on PC? Demon Souls? Do you not play multiplats on console at all?
 
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Edit* oops! Didn't mean to quote you, so I'll just say 'Hey gurlfriend!!"

It's a deprecating train of thought though.

Why lead with that argument when you know you're not going to practice what you're preaching?

Do you play SFV more on PC? Will you be playing Destiny 2 mainly on PC? Demon Souls? Do you not play multiplats on console at all?
Sony made,Sony owned
I double dip with certain games and plan on doing Destiny 2 x2
 
Edit* oops! Didn't mean to quote you, so I'll just say 'Hey gurlfriend!!"

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Lol

If you set a higher resolution on a game on the PC in most cases it has folders with higher resolution textures ie setting a higher resolution on the PC is more than a simple upscale.
I also pointed out other advantages in the post.

You said (again) :
nope unless the 360 and XB OG games will be enhanced to current standards like most current PC's do anyway.
PSnow is a joke in comparison though a bad joke.

You are saying that OG and 360 games would need to be enhanced to current standards like "most current PC's do anyway." I'd just like for you to tell me what current PC and what 360/OG era games are being enhanced to *current* standards and by what PCs, keeping in mind that if the game ships with support for 1080 or 1440 in 2013, and still supports those resolutions with the same textures in 2017, the game hasn't been "enhanced to current standards."
 
And as long as the vast majority of PS exclusives are playable on PC (and more so with PS Now), I wouldn't need my PS Pro anymore. I could go PC and Xbox and play my Play Anywhere games for the price of one on both systems.

Why would one need a PS then?

But that's the thing. There is a significant amount of ps only exclusives that would require a ps console to play. Same can't be said for the Xbox.
 
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You are saying that OG and 360 games would need to be enhanced to current standards like "most current PC's do anyway." I'd just like for you to tell me what current PC and what 360/OG era games are being enhanced to *current* standards and by what PCs, keeping in mind that if the game ships with support for 1080 or 1440 in 2013, and still supports those resolutions with the same textures in 2017, the game hasn't been "enhanced to current standards."
Every 360 game that it is on the PC runs and looks better than the 360 originals.
If the in game UI allows support for 900p or greater(and they do) this alone makes them better.
Many can run in true 4K...not a simple upscale.
 
Every 360 game that it is on the PC runs and looks better than the 360 originals.
If the in game UI allows support for 900p or greater(and they do) this alone makes them better.
Many can run in true 4K...not a simple upscale.

And so will Scorpio - if the game supports a resolution, it will hit that resolution and frame rate full stop.

And "many"? Really, how many games that are 360 gen or older (not cross-gen like Titanfall, for example) are running native 4K on PC? I'm sure there may be a few, but I'd also bet that less than a handful at most released with 4K native support and instead had it patched on later.
 
I know, Forbes is a Sony loving site, but do you agree with this assessment? I bolded the most interesting points.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/04/04/its-game-over-for-the-xbox-one/#8de477d26eee

The console wars are ever in flux, but when it comes to the rivalry between Sony's PlayStation 4 and Microsoft's Xbox One, the war is over. The battle has been fought, and the PS4 has emerged the clear victor. The PS4 has sold around twice as many units as the Xbox One since both systems launched in 2013.

That's not even a war. It's a slaughter.

All that Microsoft can do now is hope and pray that the upcoming Scorpio can save the day; that it's not too little too late to introduce an even more powerful system to the market.

And it's not just about how many systems have been sold, it's about what gamers on either platform can expect in terms of content and value right now and moving forward.

You need look no further than Sony's incredible line-up of exclusive or semi-exclusive titles to see how badly the PlayStation 4 is beating the Xbox One. So far in 2017, Microsoft's only Xbox One exclusive has been Halo Wars 2, but thanks to Microsoft's (consumer-friendly) Play Anywhere program, you can play that on PC and skip the Xbox One altogether. That's great for consumers but not necessarily for the Xbox One.


There's other Xbox One exclusives in the pipeline for 2017, but Crackdown 3 and Sea of Thieves can't keep a gaming system afloat. Neither IP is big or popular enough. If the Scorpio does launch this holiday season, Microsoft will need a major launch title to go along with it, but it's a little early for Halo 6 or Gears of War 5. The very fact that these two franchises represent the bulk of the Xbox platform's exclusive draw is itself a very big problem for Microsoft, and one they need to address now if they want to remain in the console business.

Indeed, it isn't merely the Xbox One's horsepower that's led to its second-place status, it's the lack of compelling content on the system. While Sony has a long list of incredible exclusives just in the first few months of 2017, ranging from Nioh to Persona 5 to Horizon Zero Dawn, Microsoft is cancelling promising titles like Scalebound. And that cancellation comes on the heels of the shuttering of Fable Legends with no new Fable anywhere in sight. That's a game that the Xbox One desperately needs, and something that could launch alongside the Scorpio in a big way. A current-gen Fable could be fantastic, and yet we've heard neither hide nor hair of it.

Maybe Scorpio Should Start Fresh

I've argued that Microsoft should abandon the Xbox One brand and start fresh with Scorpio. I'm not sure that's necessary for Microsoft to succeed, but it would free them from the confines of this generation and allow them to start over with a brand new console and all the hype that entails. Just make it backwards compatible, and you won't alienate consumers.

Look no further than the boring PS4 Pro to see how ineffective a console "refresh" can be. And once you've got an Xbox One, an Xbox One S and a Scorpio sku, things become overly complicated for consumers and developers alike.

But really, Microsoft needs more games not just more horsepower. They need compelling new franchises, and they need to start offering a more competitive platform. Reducing the cost of Xbox Live Gold or offering it for free for a year with the purchase of a Scorpio, for instance, could make the Xbox brand more compelling.

Game Over

Whatever the case, right now one thing is clear: In its current form, the Xbox One is dead. It's over. Franchises like Destiny and Call of Duty offer exclusive content to PlayStation 4 gamers now. In the latter's case, that's a major reversal from the Xbox 360 years. This means that the PlayStation 4 now has the lead not just in JRPGs and big, long-running Sony first party exclusives, but in mainstream shooters as well. My how the times have changed.

This isn't a good thing. This isn't something we should want. Competition is incredibly important in an industry like video games. A more competitive Xbox brand is good for consumers because it ensures that Sony doesn't start to rest on its laurels. Nintendo is another important factor here, but Nintendo dances to the beat of its own drum, and appeals to a somewhat different audience. The important war---the video game equivalent of Intel vs. AMD---is between Sony and Microsoft.

And for the time being, the war is over. Right from the get-go, the Xbox One didn't stand a chance. It was $100 more than the PS4, saddled with a Kinect that nobody wanted, and marred by a host of anti-consumer decisions that were quickly walked back. I think Phil Spencer has done an admirable job trying to right the ship after inheriting the top spot at Xbox, but it hasn't been enough.

I hope very much for all our sake's that the Scorpio can turn things around for the Xbox brand, but I can't help but wonder if an even more powerful console is even the right direction for console gaming. I think the Switch helps illustrate that more power isn't everything. Meanwhile, game development costs have simply ballooned out of control and will only continue to do so if companies like Microsoft insist on more and more horsepower, 4K gaming, and so forth. To be honest, the Xbox One would have been just fine if it had been on par with the PS4. Now we risk a new arms race that many developers and publishers will have a hard time keeping up with. After all, if it's this hard to make new exclusives for the Xbox One, imagine how much more difficult and costly it will be to make games for a machine 4.5 times more powerful.

Desperate Times

On the one hand, it's exciting to hear about a more powerful console that can give the PS4 Pro a run for its money. On the other hand, better graphics only go so far these days. We've reached a point where higher graphical fidelity pays increasingly diminishing returns. The leap from 1080p to 4K is nowhere near the leap from SD to HD. Whereas we once marveled at each new blockbuster's incredible graphics, these days it feels fairly routine. The importance of art-style and design, not to mention frames-per-second, is slowly overshadowing the value of higher detail and resolution.

That being said, Microsoft has to do something at this point. There are rumors of a VR headset, which I think is a huge mistake (VR is dead in the water also) but a more powerful console is a better idea. Right now it's game over for the Xbox One. Only drastic measures, and really good games, can save it now.

Actually, what we don't want is 3rd party platform exclusive content.

Forbes always like to be overdramatic though...and is nice of them to tell us what is or isn't compelling. Guess they forgot that over 100 million gamers haven't even joined this gen yet.

They also seem to have forgot their article about how PS4 power advantage stole a huge chunk of Xbox's consumers...or are we already at the "power doesn't matter" phase already?

Forbes:laugh:
 
And so will Scorpio - if the game supports a resolution, it will hit that resolution and frame rate full stop.

And "many"? Really, how many games that are 360 gen or older (not cross-gen like Titanfall, for example) are running native 4K on PC? I'm sure there may be a few, but I'd also bet that less than a handful at most released with 4K native support and instead had it patched on later.
Until I read otherwise Scorpio will do a simple upscale of those games.
Not the same thing.
More than a handful of 360 games have above 360 resolution textures/resolution with more than a handful reaching 4K.
 
Until I read otherwise Scorpio will do a simple upscale of those games.
Not the same thing.
More than a handful of 360 games have above 360 resolution textures/resolution with more than a handful reaching 4K.

Well, yeah, because the 360 didn't support 4K output the game won't output 4K no matter how much hardware you throw at it, because the assets were not included. But the same thing happened on PCs as well, or there wouldn't be the need for high resolution texture mods for anything built before a couple of years ago.
 
Well, yeah, because the 360 didn't support 4K output the game won't output 4K no matter how much hardware you throw at it, because the assets were not included. But the same thing happened on PCs as well, or there wouldn't be the need for high resolution texture mods for anything built before a couple of years ago.
.......................... The PC DID have the support for higher res and textures though.
Mods that enhance games come out for most PC games regardless of how good the game looks.
 
.......................... The PC DID have the support for higher res and textures though.
Mods that enhance games come out for most PC games regardless of how good the game looks.
Yeah I was about to say this. Plus, this whole idea that texture resolution is tied to the game's render resolution is completely bogus.
 
Game over bro.

Game over.

I'm debating on getting one day one or waiting to see if they go silly and do those crazy bundles a month later.
 
Until I read otherwise Scorpio will do a simple upscale of those games.
Not the same thing.

More than a handful of 360 games have above 360 resolution textures/resolution with more than a handful reaching 4K.
The fact that you can just pop a game in and Scorpio automatically fixes screen tearing, improves performance, visuals etc on 360 and X1 games should say a lot. This is going beyond simple upscale.
 
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The fact that you can just pop a game in and Scorpio automatically fixes screen tearing, improves performance, visuals etc on 360 and X1 games should say a lot. This is going beyond simple upscale.
Val has said numerous times that he plays the best version of console games.

You don't have to call him out. Leave my Val alone!

He'll buy a Scorpio to play games in their best console version.

He'd look like a hypocrite if he didn't.

And he'll definitely buy one. Or else these quotes would make him seem hypocritical.

LOL@ the amount of non Pro purchasers who have been in the thread.
You don't see it? No way
I am more likely to get a Scorpio than the non ps fans in this thread would get a Pro and more likely than many in the Scorpio thread.

All of his posts in this thread would make him seem silly, if he weren't going to get one.
And he hates how Rollins posts negative facts, so he definitely wouldn't be a Debbie downer and just say negative things without the intention of buying the console.
He's Intell but instead of trolling comments he trolls Nintendo and Sony threads by posting negative news/articles etc.
 
Val has said numerous times that he plays the best version of console games.

You don't have to call him out. Leave my Val alone!

He'll buy a Scorpio to play games in their best console version.

He'd look like a hypocrite if he didn't.

And he'll definitely buy one. Or else these quotes would make him seem hypocritical.




All of his posts in this thread would make him seem silly, if he weren't going to get one.
And he hates how Rollins posts negative facts, so he definitely wouldn't be a Debbie downer and just say negative things without the intention of buying the console.
That's right the best versions of console games which are and will continue to be on the PS4 this generation for me.
I don't know how to put this in a nice way but....2 be brutally honest the PS4 UI and PSN are so much better than the XBO UI and XBL...PLUS PS4 has better 3rd party exclusive content for my tastes.
So even with slightly worse looking and performing versions of games...The majority of my 3rd party games will continue to not be on Xbox. I am aware that I might at times not get the PS4/Pro versions but for the most part I don't see this changing.

I have been positive about the Scorpio and am looking 4ward 2 it but(some more brutal honesty)
I don't plan on doing much gaming on it unless MS can improve the games I would buy on it like its console exclusives and its UI/XBL needs major work.

If not...mainly to be a Ultra HD BR Player.

Funny we just did a youtube video talking about this very thing :)
 
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.......................... The PC DID have the support for higher res and textures though.
Mods that enhance games come out for most PC games regardless of how good the game looks.

Yes, mods are the difference. Yes, PC games have had higher resolution/texture/framerates. What you're saying is that PCs bring old games up to modern standards, which is true either if the game is modded, or if the game shipped with support for the advanced features already. In the sense that there are mods, and that games shipped with support for higher settings than 360/PS3 at launch, I agree - I just think saying that PCs bring games up to modern standards needs to include the caveat that it's not the hardware doing that - the game has to ship with modern standards, be patched to support them or be modded. But obviously the mod option is not available on console except with very limited exceptions, so that is a difference.
 
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That's right the best versions of console games which are and will continue to be on the PS4 this generation for me.
I don't know how to put this in a nice way but....2 be brutally honest the PS4 UI and PSN are so much better than the XBO UI and XBL...PLUS PS4 has better 3rd party exclusive content for my tastes.
So even with slightly worse looking and performing versions of games...The majority of my 3rd party games will continue to not be on Xbox. I am aware that I might at times not get the PS4/Pro versions but for the most part I don't see this changing.

I have been positive about the Scorpio and am looking 4ward 2 it but(some more brutal honesty)
I don't plan on doing much gaming on it unless MS can improve the games I would buy on it like its console exclusives and its UI/XBL needs major work.

If not...mainly to be a Ultra HD BR Player.

Funny we just did a youtube video talking about this very thing :)

Lmao at ui, PSN, exclusive timed DLC. LMAO.
 
That's right the best versions of console games which are and will continue to be on the PS4 this generation for me.
I don't know how to put this in a nice way but....2 be brutally honest the PS4 UI and PSN are so much better than the XBO UI and XBL...PLUS PS4 has better 3rd party exclusive content for my tastes.
So even with slightly worse looking and performing versions of games...The majority of my 3rd party games will continue to not be on Xbox. I am aware that I might at times not get the PS4/Pro versions but for the most part I don't see this changing.

I have been positive about the Scorpio and am looking 4ward 2 it but(some more brutal honesty)
I don't plan on doing much gaming on it unless MS can improve the games I would buy on it like its console exclusives and its UI/XBL needs major work.

If not...mainly to be a Ultra HD BR Player.

Funny we just did a youtube video talking about this very thing :)
lol
 
That's right the best versions of console games which are and will continue to be on the PS4 this generation for me.
I don't know how to put this in a nice way but....2 be brutally honest the PS4 UI and PSN are so much better than the XBO UI and XBL...PLUS PS4 has better 3rd party exclusive content for my tastes.
So even with slightly worse looking and performing versions of games...The majority of my 3rd party games will continue to not be on Xbox. I am aware that I might at times not get the PS4/Pro versions but for the most part I don't see this changing.

I have been positive about the Scorpio and am looking 4ward 2 it but(some more brutal honesty)
I don't plan on doing much gaming on it unless MS can improve the games I would buy on it like its console exclusives and its UI/XBL needs major work.

If not...mainly to be a Ultra HD BR Player.

Funny we just did a youtube video talking about this very thing :)

PSN so much better than XBL?

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