Xbox One X
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Do not agree with that. The RTX has so much subtle accuracy in the lighting and reflections. Looks quite better to me. I can't wait for console to be able to do that. Especially being able to see someone behind you in a reflection!
One of my biggest peeves is when a reflection is only partially drawn due to the screen space reflection implementation, and you end up seeing it blurred into a sky box.
Some of the shots with RTX could potentially look worse, but it's because it either hasn't been fine-tuned, or the reality of what the scene is doesn't lend itself to more dramatic contrasts.
I'm playing through Spiderman at the moment, and if that game had raytracing, it would be so quiche! But some of it would probably also look less photogenic.
Yeah, it kinda depends on what impresses you. I for one LOVE high-end rendering, but I can see how a 4k image can look just as impressive in other ways. I don't think the RTX stuff is over 1080p, which will definitely have less an impact at a glance. To me though, the more accurate reflections- seeing things reflected from off camera adds so much depth. There is also the more natural interplay of light and shadow as well as how the shaders react to the light.
All the RTX stuff so far is 1080p, and it seems extremely unoptimized, or counter-productive to image quality at the moment.
The Tomb Raider demo made it pretty blatant when they refused to move the camera with RTX turned on. And then the playable demo didn't exactly lend itself to giving credence to sacrificing 4x the resolution and a stable framerate, in lieu of... Decent shadows?
The best thing so far has been Battlefield, but the physically based rendering shouldn't be an "auto RTX" transfer or whatever. The windows and car look amazing, but completely fake. They need to pack some dullness, grit, and opaqueness to compensate.
Windows can be super-reflective, along with puddles. But when there are buildings blowing up, and a tank driving over the cars, it just looks extremely jarring when everything looks glossier than Kim K's new lipstick.
I was more impressed with the bodies of water, the gun reflections, and the character models being shown. THAT was all totally rad.
I couldn't get over that weird looking fire that animated slow as hell..
Yeah, no. Gonna disagree here. Especially considering that MS had this entire generation to learn from and are under new management.
None of what happened this gen will make one bit of difference as far as who will/could win next generation. It's all about who speaks the language gamers understand and can satisfy the masses with the right message. Sony has done stellar with its 1st part SP games this generation. Next gen MS will strengthen their 1st party out put, so it wont be that easy for Sony next time.
Ninentdo typically does their own thing every generation and even they've come out on top.
All of the big 3 will bring new, more powerful hardware, better games, better ecosystems etc. It's anyone's game next gen. In all my time as a gamer, (unless only one manufacturer existed) there hasn't been back-to-back victories. Sony is King this gen, to feel confident it'll be the same next gen is naive if you've followed this industry.
Watch the original nVidia show. The tech is so much more than these few hand picked scenes. And it's almost entirely due to pre-rendered sky-boxes.
From these scenes, it should be Xbox one/Xbox One X/PS4/Pro > RTX 2080.
If they turned Ray tracing off, it would be an entirely different story, but sometimes, realistically rendered things just aren't as pretty as something with a more liberal artistic licence applied.
Imagine if they could only use realistic lighting in a movie like Sin City.
Agree with everything you say, but unless you're much younger than I suspect, I'd say PS1 and PS2 was both won by sony back-to-back?
i doubt 2 TF at that point mounts to much either, but MS cant afford to come in under-spec'd again, so at least for the clickbait articles on the interwebs, it would be important....
Agree. For me to upgrade, there is going to need to be a demonstrable jump. Whether that’s something like raytracing, the maturity of VR, crazy physics and/or AI, I guess we’ll need to see. I’d love to see improvements in all of these areas but am realistic that we may really be approaching the law of diminishing returns. With forward compatibility (i.e no forced generational upgrade) you are really going to see side by side if it’s worth it.
This isn't a fair comparison.
Shame on the creator of that video.
The RTX footage is not a direct capture whereas the X1X footage is.
Basically a downloaded youtube video with compression vs. a direct capture.
Of course the direct capture of the X1X is going to look better.
VERY misleading.
Enhanced texture resolution? FINALLY, one of the best things X can do that no one seems to use
I want MS to compete but they haven't done a very good job with 1st party dating back to before this generation, they seemed to stop focusing on 1st party games half way through the 360's lifecycle. They spent too much time on Kinect and indie style games, Spencer was around and in a position of power for all of that. That doesn't mean he hasn't learned from his (and his superiors) mistakes but MS still has to prove they can come with the first party stuff, spending money on a bunch of smaller studios is proof that they are at least going to try, now we have to see if they'll actually be able to execute. They have been at this for a long time now, they are not new comers by any stretch.
Let's not forget Sony won this generation before they started firing on all cylinders with their 1st party content, they had the global brand appeal and they had the right idea on price and what gamers wanted etc. BTW Sony has won all but one generation that they've been a part of so yeah one company has won twice in a row. PS1 and PS2 both outsold their competition and the PS3 outsold the 360 when you count for the years they went head to head, of course the Wii won that generation overall.
The colour palette is f***ing ugly. For the entirety of the game shown so far.
Reviewers will wank over the direction, but it's still fug.
HDR in 10,000 shades of green, yellow, Gray and murky green is still fug. And every scene has a weird green-gray haze.
man I wish my TV had more than one 4K hook up I have my pro hooked up to that one and my One X hooked up to the only other free one (my cable box is hooked into the the other). I just need to hook up my home theater receiver but I have been so busy with work I hardly have time to play my games let alone hook up the surround sound lol
A 4K60hzHDR rated HDMI switch/splitter box should do the trick.
Maybe something like these:
Amazon product
Amazon product
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15261
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15262
Whatever meets your needs. I haven't used any of these but this should be what you would need.
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This is so true. It's a damn shame that the extra 4GB of RAM seems to be very under utilized and unless you're MS 1st party it seems extremely rare that devs use higher res assets. Most devs seem cater to the lowest denominator (PS4 Pro) and just bump the res and call it a day.