When Jordan retired the first time, his team won two less regular season games and lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs the next year.
Go look at what happens to teams when LeBron leaves them. Those Bulls teams were stacked.
Go look at LeBron when he formed a super team. He still lost in the Finals. MJ would have never lost on that Heat team. He never lost in the Finals. Because he’s the GOAT.
MJ wasn't good enough to take his team to the Finals.
LeBron might lose in the Finals, but he has the ability to take scrub teammates there. MJ didn't.
MJ was 1 - 9 before Scottie Pippen showed up. Go look at LeBron's playoff record before he played with a talent like Pippen.
Even more impressive is that LeBron did it coming out of high school. Jordan needed 3 years of seasoning in college.
It's not even a debate really.
Jordan has more titles, more scoring titles, more MVP awards and more DPOY awards.
Jordan has more titles, more scoring titles, more MVP awards and more DPOY awards.
The only stats that count are the ones I like!
I do like how playing with the two other hall of famers is considering playing with scrubs. If you are going to go all in on this schtick you got to at least put a little more effort into it.
But but but Lebron's hall of famers don't count
Why are you even talking about college and high school and then preaching about context?Trae Young
Marcus Keene
James Daniel III
Tyler Harvey
Doug McDermott
Eric Green
Reggie Hamilton
Jimmer Freddett
Aubrey Colman
Recognize those names? Those are the last 10 college basketball scoring leaders by year. Imagine being an NBA scout and saying...
"We should take this guy."
"Why?
"Look at how many points he scored!"
Not very sophisticated is it?
We could do this to the end of time. You bring up LeBron losing to the Mavs in the Finals. I bring up Jordan losing to the Magic in the 2nd round.
What we need to be shifting this discussion to is why rational arguments are so ineffective at getting people to change their minds.
Climate change, religion, politics, relationships etc...If people don't want to change their minds, data isn't going to convince them otherwise.
Why are you even talking about college and high school and then preaching about context?
You mean the series where Jordan averaged over 30? According to you that is all that matters.
Plus you know why I brought it up. Its not about them losing. Its about him being terrible.
Lebron didn't need to be great for them to win that series. He just needed to show up in the 4th quarter.
LeBron knows who the real GOAT is that’s all that matters. He is still chasing MJ’s ghost.
I do think it’s funny Sunset disregards the stats or points in their careers that do not help his own argument.
Are Trump supporters typically data driven?
"Frankly, at this point it's a bit of a big margin actually."
lol, there was no actual data referenced and the panel was split in your video
I know who he is and he never stated what analytics he was using.Daryl Morey is one of the Godfathers of basketball analytics, a data driven movement that has revolutionized how teams value players.
The other guys on the panel are irrelevant because ESPN is garbage.
I know who he is and he never stated what analytics he was using.