Anthem
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What makes me more nervous is that Dragon Age 4 got rebooted to implement more live elements and services into the game. So not only will the game not be available until at earliset 2020, it more than likely will have alot of loot boxes or GaaS elements than previous iterations had.
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EA isn't letting it slip past March 2019 just like they wouldn't with Andromeda
Kind of scary to hear EA putting all Bioware's eggs in the Anthem basket. If it doesn't succeed, that may be the end of Bioware. Two generations ago, they were one of my two favorite developers. Now they seem like a pale shadow of their former selves, limping along, with one last chance.
Am I being overly dramatic? Probably.
I find myself in a weird position. I'm rooting for success of a game I don't want them to make, just so they can return, years from now, to making the games they used to make.
Am I being overly dramatic? Probably.
I find myself in a weird position. I'm rooting for success of a game I don't want them to make, just so they can return, years from now, to making the games they used to make.
That isn't what I just read. There is nothing in that article that states EA are doing that. All it states is that some are anxious that it could happen, and that those feelings are born from the ME:A mess, mostly.
There is no real reason why this game shouldn't succeed. There is a crap tonne of feedback out there for Destiny 1, 2 and The Division. You have a quality studio who have worked on big, successful open world loot filled games.
And honestly The Division and Destiny show that this type of game doesn't need to be all that good to be a big hit. Anthem already has the hype so it will probably be fine.
That is not really true. Sure, initial sales might be good thanks to hype, but if anything the feedback on those games shows the games do need to be good.
The Division has only taken a year to get to that point. Destiny 1 took a year..and another 100 bucks investment per player. Destiny 2 is 6 months old and not even close.
After the pushback at Battlefront 2 I can see why Anthem needs to be delayed to rework the microtransactions.
I think bioware is one of the most overrated developers of all time, they have great concepts but the gameplay never really hits. The only game I've ever played of theirs that I liked was Dragon Age Inquisition and it has a ton of flaws, it's the only game I've ever played where riding a horse wasn't fun lol. Hopefully Anthem and the next Dragon Age turn out to be good games.
Did you know them back in the days of Kotor, Jade Empire, the first Mass Effect? Man, they were good back then. EA acquired them, and since then, it's been a slow and steady decline. They're just a shadow of their former selves now.
I remember Jade Empire being a great concept with a very flawed execution, constant loading times, terrible animations and stiff gameplay made what could have been an awesome game pretty mediocre IMO, the first Mass Effect was another game that was a great concept but I felt lacked in the gameplay department and I ended up not finishing it, I bought Andromeda because I wanted to give them another chance after enjoying DA:I but I stopped playing after a few days and have deleted it as I never plan on going back to it. I've never played Kotor but it seems very popular and must have been something special, that game seems to be where most of the goodwill towards the dev comes from even after all of the ups and downs that have come after.
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Oh, ok. We have very different tastes, as far as that goes, then. I loved Jade Empire; I played it three times. You'll still see me sporting a Scholar Ling avatar, now and then. I thought the first Mass Effect was great; I played it 2 or 3 times. Kotor was good, too, though I actually preferred the other two.
Yeah I really wanted to like Jade Empire but the animations and the fact that your blows didn't seem to have any impact on the enemies just killed it for me, that and there seemed to be a loading screen every 4 minutes.
Oh, that's too bad. I had fun with the combat, although it was simple. Animations seemed fine to me, relative to that era. Load screens aren't something I pay much attention to.
The game had a lot of strengths. The dialog was several cuts above anything anyone else was doing, at least on consoles. There was wide variability in dialog choices, with plenty of humor. The story was pretty good, with a twist or two, and there were clear choices and consequences. There were lots of interesting characters throughout the game, plus a John Cleese cameo. I liked the generally lighthearted tone. And it was in a very unique setting, something we hadn't seen in other Western RPGs. Lots of great stuff in that game for RPG fans.
Only sold 300K, from what I remember. No way Jade Empire would get built by today's Bioware.
EA sucks, but don't you see that more as a general problem in the industry? EA is just the symptom of the overall problem.
As development times get longer and more expensive, you've seen things like Agile Development come into play. That's why instead of having very polished finished games we get more works in progress (and of course that model is very easy to monetize). I've thought of making a separate post on it if people thought it worthwhile. As someone who works in programming for something not related to gaming at all, our internal customers make the exact same complaints as gamers do.
Honestly people think Anthem is going to not struggle at launch? Really?
Is Anthem an online only game, or can you play it solo also?
Ive loved every Bioware game, including Andromeda and Inquisition, so I'll probably enjoy it... But I really don't want to play Destiny.
Ive loved every Bioware game, including Andromeda and Inquisition, so I'll probably enjoy it... But I really don't want to play Destiny.
Yeah, I do see it as part of the overall industry trends (ballooning budgets, $60 price ceiling, need for monetization/GaaS).
But I also think it's about EA. As one example, Resetera did a vote on Gaming Fails of 2017. EA placed #1 and EA-related material held about half of the Top 10 positions:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/gaming-fail-of-the-year-2017-foty17-results.12361/
EA culture is very different than Bioware's original culture. Had Bioware stayed independent, I don't think we would have seen the fall from grace we have.
Not sure. Everything I find says "details coming soon" as of like 3 months ago.
I have lost a lot of confidence in Bioware and North America RPG's after Andromeda and Inquisition. Andromeda is not a good game and Inquisition is padded to hell and back with meaningless side content. CD Project Red and Guerrilla show now that the best RPG's are made in Europe and Anthem is going to have be amazing to change my perception on this.
I guess we already knew this, but it's a confirmation ... of what we already knew. Early 2019.
https://gematsu.com/2018/01/anthem-delayed-early-2019-next-battlefield-game-launches-october
https://gematsu.com/2018/01/anthem-delayed-early-2019-next-battlefield-game-launches-october
Yeah. Think most expected a delay into 2019. Shame, though. It is one of the more interesting 3rd party games.
Oh well, guess we'll have to make do with average R* and their mediocre RDR2 game
There goes Microsoft delaying their first party games again.
Oh, wrong thread. And where's my sarcasm font?
Imma try to boost your confidence in Bioware for Anthem. This guy: Bioware writer Drew Karpyshyn.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Karpyshyn
Look at the Bioware games he's worked on. Baldur's Gate 2, Neverwinter Nights, Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect 1 and 2. Notice Andromeda and Inquisition are NOT on that list. He's lead writer for Anthem.
That's cool, I didn't know that. Is Anthem going to have a separate SP campaign, or is it going to be all MP, with some kind of story strung together?
I bet it's gonna be like the Division where it can be either/or. I hope it has a much stronger story and characterization than the Division, though...