Elon Musk V. Twitter
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No one of immediate importance will leave Twitter (except the uncrowned Nobel peace price winner Sean "the wife beater" Penn).
It does go too far sometimes, as all mob justice ultimately does.
Cancel culture is not a recent thing, that's the lie the right tells. You know when it started? With the right back in the 80s and 90s trying to literally cancel every show and voice that didn't match their evangelical vision of America.
Cancel culture isn't new, and it isn't going away. It isn't always bad either. Seeing Rudy Guliani sadly asking for Cameo money seems just about right to me.
Either way, Elon Musk or anyone else isn't ever going to fix it. Free speech is a great thing, but we now live in a world where crazy speech gets all the clicks. I have to call my parents up every week and "deprogram" them from all the misinformation they read about masks and other covid lies. It is really frightening and is not the "free speech" any founding fathers ever imagined. It is a fire hose of information, some true, some false and average people can't even critically think through it all.
It's nowhere near the same thing as what happens on social media and you know it, I don't know how many times I've seen someone quote a person they didn't like and say "twitter do your thing" for them to be doxxed, cancelling a tv show over someone being unhappy is silly but doing it to a real person is outrageous.
I remember Married with Children almost got cancelled in its first few weeks because some woman threw a fit over it but in the end they kept it on and it was a huge success for the better part of a decade. Things got edgier as time went on, you didn't used to be able to say bitch for the longest time or ass unless it was jackass, now they say s*** on tv from time to time.
I'm not for people being able to spread lies but we've also got people who have been wrong about the truth over the last few years and when someone tried to call that out they were silenced. The lab leak theory is more than likely true but the scientific community had a reason to try to stop that from spreading so they demonized anyone who said that it was accidently leaked and basically called them racist, twitter would ban people for talking about it. Whoever runs twitter should be able to stay out of the nonsense and not let group think sway their decisions, only the facts should do that.
There's a documentary coming up on George Carlin. You should look into how he (and many other performers back in the day) would get arrested because of their words. Heck, Elvis was "bad" because of the way he shook his hips.
Twitter just magnifies it, but it has always been there, and mostly from the right.
The lab leak "theory" is a perfect example. It is not a fact and has not been confirmed or silenced. The whole drama came about because Trump deliberately made it a race baiting issue. They are so good at lighting the match, then playing the victim when the flames start roaring. It isn't surprising that cancel culture got bad the right around 2016.
Was it race baiting or people just being upset because Trump said it? He never said anything bad about Asian Americans yet calling it the China virus somehow became an assault on Asian Americans even those that weren't of Chinese heritage. You can blame him all you want but also pretending we didn't overreact or take the bait every time if that's indeed what was going on is again trying to pretend we have no responsibility in anything. How is it racist to say it was leaked from a lab but not racist to accept that people are eating dirty dead bats and that somehow was how it started?
He went far beyond his racism towards Asians than calling covid the China virus . That’s the, racist, problem. It wasn’t just that.
Yes. Everything Trump said was deliberate. He repeated it multiple times and in many different ways. And yes, he loved to speak in ways that baited people without quite coming out with it.
His entire goal was to get attention off his mishandling and downplaying of the virus. And yes, people shouldn't have taken the bait, but that's why it is called "race baiting". This is exactly what it is designed to do.
China's responsibility at the time was not the point, the virus was here and instead of fighting it here we were arguing over stupid things.
6 years later and people still question what he was doing... that's why there's no hope.
Trump is an idiot in a lot of ways, but he was a master at stuff like this. He'd manufacture outrage to cover up the bad headlines that pointed at him.
I sometimes get a picture of Trump sitting on behind the desk at the white house in my head... Then I realize it really happened lol
After he called it the "China Virus" anti Asian American hate crimes increased in frequency. Should that have happened and should there have been any logical connection between Asian Americans and a virus originating in China? Obviously not, but when you are the president there are different standards, especially considering his base.
So in answer to your first question, I would actually say "yes".
I totally disagree with all of this. Social media has algorithms purposely designed to show you what it thinks you need to see, not what you should see.
Old school newspapers still had bias, but at least everyone saw the same paper every morning, Now with social media, people don't disagree on issues, we disagree on the actual facts. My twitter feed looks nothing like the next person's.
Social media is an echo chamber by design. It would be great if everyone understood that, but far too many people don't. Someone might want to know what's going on at the southern US border, suddenly they'll see a new border story every day. A harmless search for information will lead people down a right wing rabbit hole. Maybe they find their way out, or maybe they don't.
These companies have massive amounts of power and influence, way, way more than any actual journalists of the past.
On top of it, you have people calling for people to march on the capitol and have it be defended as "free speech". Free speech has limits. It always has. Bill forgot that long ago. We're not talking about an off color joke that lands wrong, but inciting violence and hate. If I yell "fire" in a crowed theater, I can't claim "free speech" when people are trampled and hurt. The people who complain about not having free speech are usually the ones trying to get away with something.
I bet i will start to see Hardcore Software Developent as a required skill now in job postings. It will be the biggest of red flags.
I assume "hardcore" means rolling everything into prod and then testing it... maybe?
Well s***, I'm real f***ing hardcore then!
You know it could mean having your consumers paying for the privilege of testing features (autonomous driving) out that can kill people but they've signed a waiver taking on the responsibility so you bear none yourself. Yup that's it, and it's pretty dame hardcore of the
If you don't make mistakes in the first place you don't need all those costly intermediate deployments. #winningI assume "hardcore" means rolling everything into prod and then testing it... maybe?
Appears like Musk didn't do any due diligence. Musk could also have to pay $1 billion if he backs out.