Microsoft At E3 2018

$40 for a long SP only
$50 For SP with COOP
$60 For SP/MP/COOP
$40 For MP Only

That is a ridiculous idea. You can't look at games like The Witcher 3 or Overwatch and not think they justify the full price.

dont get me wrong I love single player games, I just can't see my self to get it at full price. I am still waiting for Wolfenstein 2 to go down on price to $20.

I picked up Batman for $10 a few months back and loved it.

More reason why you should want Microsoft to make single player games. You can get them from game pass on day 1 without paying $60.
 
This makes no sense because not all games in categorized that way are the same development budget wise.

Or the same quality.

Those kind of generalizations focus only on the number of hours you can potentially spend with a game. They ignore quality. It's like we're buying food in bulk or something -- the most hours we can get, the better deal we've got.

To me anyhow, the quality of the experience is more important than the sheer quantity of hours you can spend with the game. I'd rather pay $60 for 20 great hours than $20 for 100 average hours.
 
It should probably be priced by how many hours of gameplay.

If Black Ops 4 doesn't have a campaign it shouldn't be full price (it will be though) and the same should be true of single player only, especially if theres a fee for online play and it isn't being supported.

Gamers are thankfully voting with their wallets and want the best value for money.

But aren't they replacing it with something else? Something its core audience are likely to get far more hours out of.

I wish Battlefield would drop the crappy campaigns and focus fully on why people buy it, the multiplayer.

The best value for money is a top quality game. I have no problem paying $60 for a great 10 hour game, or just a multiplayer game.
 
Loose rumors of a survival/horror 1st party IP debuting at E3, as well as 1st party action/adventure.

Nothing nearly confirmed, I’m only posting for discussion.

I wish they’d reboot Condemned...I loved that game.
 
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Loose rumors of a survival/horror 1st party IP debuting at E3, as well as 1st party action/adventure.

Nothing nearly confirmed, I’m only posting for discussion.

I wish they’d reboot Condemned...I loved that game.

Too vague to discuss, imo.
 
But aren't they replacing it with something else? Something its core audience are likely to get far more hours out of.

I wish Battlefield would drop the crappy campaigns and focus fully on why people buy it, the multiplayer.

The best value for money is a top quality game. I have no problem paying $60 for a great 10 hour game, or just a multiplayer game.

The rumor is its getting a battle royal mode instead of a campaign...but Battlefield V is also supposed to have Battle Royale as well as a campaign so its very arguable that BO4 asking for $60 (the same price as its predecessors and competitors) is giving us less content.

What if the next Iphone shipped without a camera or GPS? It can still make calls and send texts, buts its value proposition isn't very good compared to a (non exploding) Samsung.

Same deal here really, you can release Wolfenstein II in October as a single player game, but you can't be surprised that it underperformed in the shadow of CoD and Battlefront which despite not nessarily having campaigns as good, will offer at least 50+ hours of multiplayer casually and 100's+ to the more obsessive.

Doesn't really bother me as I'm not adverse to multiplayer and linear games are evolving to open world games. And IMO I'd rather have bloated open world games then linear ones with 9/10 doors closed. I find that way more immersion breaking.

Gamers are smart though. A single player game will be the same game whether you buy it at $60 or $10. If you're dying to know the ending, watch it on YouTube. Or you rent it for a week and the Publisher loses a sale.

CoD and the big multiplayer games are gameplay driven (over cutscenes driven). You can't replicate that on YouTube...and their prices never drop that much.

Arguably that's where gamepass comes in, once we're mainly digital physical rentals will go extinct. The only way to rent will be in a Netflix like service, a service controlled by the publishers who are now monetising rentals where they couldn't before.
 
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Loose rumors of a survival/horror 1st party IP debuting at E3, as well as 1st party action/adventure.

Nothing nearly confirmed, I’m only posting for discussion.

I wish they’d reboot Condemned...I loved that game.


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The rumor is its getting a battle royal mode instead of a campaign...but Battlefield V is also supposed to have Battle Royale as well as a campaign so its very arguable that BO4 asking for $60 (the same price as its predecessors and competitors) is giving us less content.

What if the next Iphone shipped without a camera or GPS? It can still make calls and send texts, buts its value proposition isn't very good compared to a (non exploding) Samsung.

Same deal here really, you can release Wolfenstein II in October as a single player game, but you can't be surprised that it underperformed in the shadow of CoD and Battlefront which despite not nessarily having campaigns as good, will offer at least 50+ hours of multiplayer casually and 100's+ to the more obsessive.

Doesn't really bother me as I'm not adverse to multiplayer and linear games are evolving to open world games. And IMO I'd rather have bloated open world games then linear ones with 9/10 doors closed. I find that way more immersion breaking.

Gamers are smart though. A single player game will be the same game whether you buynitnat $60 or $10. If you're dying to know the ending, watch it on YouTube. Or you rent it and the Publisher loses a sale.

CoD and the big multiplayer games are gameplay driven (over cutscenes driven). You can't replicate that on YouTube...and their prices never drop that much.

Tell that to ME: Andromeda.
 
Hype train left the station a little early.
 
It should probably be priced by how many hours of gameplay.

If Black Ops 4 doesn't have a campaign it shouldn't be full price (it will be though) and the same should be true of single player only, especially if theres a fee for online play and it isn't being supported.

Gamers are thankfully voting with their wallets and want the best value for money.

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But aren't they replacing it with something else? Something its core audience are likely to get far more hours out of.

I wish Battlefield would drop the crappy campaigns and focus fully on why people buy it, the multiplayer.

The best value for money is a top quality game. I have no problem paying $60 for a great 10 hour game, or just a multiplayer game.
Nahhh i think the campaigns should stay they just need to add a quality coop component(unlike past games)
 
Nahhh i think the campaigns should stay they just need to add a quality coop component(unlike past games)

Easier said than done. They can't even add quality campaigns (assuming we are talking about BF)

Put those resources into something that doesn't suck.
 
Easier said than done. They can't even add quality campaigns (assuming we are talking about BF)

Put those resources into something that doesn't suck.

Agreed, outside of Bad Company series, the single player Battlefield campaigns have mostly been pretty looking polished turds (Hardline actually was decent, but the MP was meh).

I say ditch the single player and use the rest of the money on content instead of splintering playerbase and charging people for expansions and to use test servers.
 
Didn't see this posted but sorry if it was! I think that list overall is solid but lacking in any new 1st party IP (Electric Madness is not what we're looking for!). Don't know what to make of Halo: Genesis...have to see. I don't think they'd release Halo and JD in the same holiday window either. Like the addition of some 3rd party games day and date on GamePass (Shadow of the Tomb Raider; Boderlands 3). Probably a load of BS but we'll see.

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news...-cell-forza-horizon-4-and-more-report-1839869


Xbox E3 2018 leaks

  • Forza Horizon 4: [4K, 30 FPS on X, Japan setting, Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay/Trailer Demo, Fall 2018]
  • Starfield: [Marketing Deal, Gameplay Demo, Open World sci fi RPG, Holiday 2018]
  • ScreamRide 2 [Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay Trailer, Holiday 2018]
  • Crackdown 3: [Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay Trailer, MP Beta, Holiday 2018]
  • Shadow of the Tomb Raider: [Marketing Deal, Gameplay Demo, Xbox Gamepass Fall 2018]
  • Sea of Thieves: [New content, Trailer, Xbox Gamepass, Fall 2018]
  • Ashen: [Gameplay Trailer, Holiday 2018]
  • The Last Night: [Gameplay Trailer, Xbox Gamepass, Holiday 2018]
  • Below: [Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay Trailer, Holiday 2018]
  • Madden: [Marketing, Gameplay Trailer, Fall 2018]
  • Minecraft: [ Content Update, Fall 2018]
  • Battlefield V: [Marketing, Gameplay Trailer, Fall 2018]
  • Metro Exodus: [Marketing, Gameplay Demo, Holiday 2018]
  • Banjo-Kazooie Anniversary: [Gamplay Trailer,Xbox Gamepass,Fall 2018]
  • Borderlands 3: [Spring 2019, Xbox Gamepass, Marketing, Gameplay Trailer]
  • Ori and the Will of the Wisps: [Spring 2019, Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay Trailer]
  • Electric Madness: [Fun Racer, Spring 2019, Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay Trailer]
  • Splinter Cell: [Reboot, Open World, Marketing, First on Xbox, Fall 2019]
  • Anthem: [Marketing, Gameplay Demo, Fall 2019]
  • Halo: Genesis [Reboot, Splitscreen, new engine, Warzone 2.0, MP Beta 2018, Teaser Trailer Fall 2019]
  • Cyberpunk 2077: [Marketing, Teaser Trailer, 2019/2020]
  • Joanna Dark: [3P Action, Teaser Trailer, Holiday 2019]
 
Screamride 2 screams fake to me.

Also, Borderlands dev guy said the marketing deal isn't true (which could be a lie obv), so probably all fake.
 
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Didn't see this posted but sorry if it was! I think that list overall is solid but lacking in any new 1st party IP (Electric Madness is not what we're looking for!). Don't know what to make of Halo: Genesis...have to see. I don't think they'd release Halo and JD in the same holiday window either. Like the addition of some 3rd party games day and date on GamePass (Shadow of the Tomb Raider; Boderlands 3). Probably a load of BS but we'll see.

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news...-cell-forza-horizon-4-and-more-report-1839869


Xbox E3 2018 leaks

  • Forza Horizon 4: [4K, 30 FPS on X, Japan setting, Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay/Trailer Demo, Fall 2018]
  • Starfield: [Marketing Deal, Gameplay Demo, Open World sci fi RPG, Holiday 2018]
  • ScreamRide 2 [Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay Trailer, Holiday 2018]
  • Crackdown 3: [Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay Trailer, MP Beta, Holiday 2018]
  • Shadow of the Tomb Raider: [Marketing Deal, Gameplay Demo, Xbox Gamepass Fall 2018]
  • Sea of Thieves: [New content, Trailer, Xbox Gamepass, Fall 2018]
  • Ashen: [Gameplay Trailer, Holiday 2018]
  • The Last Night: [Gameplay Trailer, Xbox Gamepass, Holiday 2018]
  • Below: [Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay Trailer, Holiday 2018]
  • Madden: [Marketing, Gameplay Trailer, Fall 2018]
  • Minecraft: [ Content Update, Fall 2018]
  • Battlefield V: [Marketing, Gameplay Trailer, Fall 2018]
  • Metro Exodus: [Marketing, Gameplay Demo, Holiday 2018]
  • Banjo-Kazooie Anniversary: [Gamplay Trailer,Xbox Gamepass,Fall 2018]
  • Borderlands 3: [Spring 2019, Xbox Gamepass, Marketing, Gameplay Trailer]
  • Ori and the Will of the Wisps: [Spring 2019, Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay Trailer]
  • Electric Madness: [Fun Racer, Spring 2019, Xbox Gamepass, Gameplay Trailer]
  • Splinter Cell: [Reboot, Open World, Marketing, First on Xbox, Fall 2019]
  • Anthem: [Marketing, Gameplay Demo, Fall 2019]
  • Halo: Genesis [Reboot, Splitscreen, new engine, Warzone 2.0, MP Beta 2018, Teaser Trailer Fall 2019]
  • Cyberpunk 2077: [Marketing, Teaser Trailer, 2019/2020]
  • Joanna Dark: [3P Action, Teaser Trailer, Holiday 2019]

Sounds like it came from a Russian botnet.

Joanna Dark sounds feasible though.