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I thought the original Splinter Cell was exclusive to Xbox? Am I mis-remembering?
Microsoft At E3 2018
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Help their mental health...
I thought the original Splinter Cell was exclusive to Xbox? Am I mis-remembering?
As to why Splinter Cell Conviction was exclusive to Xbox, apparently it was two fold. Ubisoft said they wanted to only do a single platform to maximize the game code, and because they have always worked close with MS.
The other reason, which I call BS, is because of the CPU in the PS3 (and Wii)
In a recent interview with Gameplayer.com.au, Splinter Cell Conviction producer and technical director Dany Lepage had this to say.
I’d like to see a regular Halo spin-off. They can keep the mainline Halos fast but keep the spinoffs playing more like classic. Then we’d get he best of both worlds. ODST played exactly like Chief then but now he’d feel less powerful at that same speed.
That does actually make sense- though I'd like to see a more realistic, tactical ODST Third person horror...
But the AI in Conviction stunk. All they would do is walk a patrol and if they saw ANYTHING they would just hide behind cover and shout profanity and taunts at Fisher. Occasionally they would run to your last known position. That's it. The end. A N64 could probably have done the AI in that game.
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Soooooo, you’re saying that this Myerson fellow is the one to blame, for holding back Phil and denying him of his ultimate cosmic power and sticking him in a tiny place?
s***. We’re not going to get very much at E3 again are we?
Damage control posts a month before the event?
We may have to cancel the party Andy.
Damage control posts a month before the event?
We may have to cancel the party Andy.
But we have a man (or woman, I dono honestly) on the floor.... Rollins should be updating us on any hot scoops, preferably live streamed
Almost what we’re saying. Almost.
I think the only real chance for this party is if Coalition and 343 were asked to use Halo 6 and Gears 5 assets for new IPs mid stream and would be the ones launching new IPs by 2019. I see no other way it’s possible. I can’t see a situation where a AAA (or AAAA) studio is ready to unveil anything this E3 outside of 343 and Coalition.
Sad. Phil's been in charge for over 4 years now. He's been talking about increased investment in first party almost that whole time. MS has known there was a big problem for 5 years. If there is nothing to show for it after all these years and all that yapping and PR -- if all they deliver is Halo/Gears/Forza and more talk about "Give us another 3 or 4 years. It was Myerson's fault. Now it's Phil unchained! Phil unleashed! But be patient for another few years, because these things take time!"
Well ... not good.
Well ... not good.
Good games take time. I don’t expect MS to show games that will be ready immediately, unless they bought some IPs we haven’t heard about yet.
Based on the recent numbers shown, X continues to grow. My last post just shows they are heavily investing in the future, and the games will come.
I mean it’s not like other devs and companies haven’t shown trailers for games that are a long ways off.
Look, I’d love for them to have better/new exclusives right now, but they don’t. They don’t need to have that right now though. They are ‘losing’ to Sony, but the Xbox division continues to grow, even without exciting new exclusives.
I think they have every other base covered, and are set up very well for the future with their great BC program. Add their deep pockets giving heavy investment to future titles, and it’s just a matter of time.
It’s a marathon, not a sprint.
I just hope they show enough of their future vision at E3 to get people excited.
Based on the recent numbers shown, X continues to grow. My last post just shows they are heavily investing in the future, and the games will come.
I mean it’s not like other devs and companies haven’t shown trailers for games that are a long ways off.
Look, I’d love for them to have better/new exclusives right now, but they don’t. They don’t need to have that right now though. They are ‘losing’ to Sony, but the Xbox division continues to grow, even without exciting new exclusives.
I think they have every other base covered, and are set up very well for the future with their great BC program. Add their deep pockets giving heavy investment to future titles, and it’s just a matter of time.
It’s a marathon, not a sprint.
I just hope they show enough of their future vision at E3 to get people excited.
Haven’t they shown streaming possibilities to phone since the 360, like they had halo 4 running on a phone, likely a windows phone when they first did.
Well at least we know stuff is coming but yeah I always said Phil just tells people what they want to hear
What was XBox's last great year?
2011 had Forza 4 and Gears of War 3 which were both GotY contenders, plus great 3rd party support, but XBox never struggled with that. Was there any year after that you'd consider a great year for XBox?
It feels like they've been coasting for such a long time now.
2011 had Forza 4 and Gears of War 3 which were both GotY contenders, plus great 3rd party support, but XBox never struggled with that. Was there any year after that you'd consider a great year for XBox?
It feels like they've been coasting for such a long time now.
Sure, everyone knows that. Good new games take 3 to 5 years to develop, give or take.
The problem is, they've been talking about the problem for 3 to 5 years. There ought to be something coming out of the oven by now.
It sounds like you guys are saying, "Ok, the clock starts now! Phil Unleashed! 3 to 5 years from now, we'll see something good, we promise. Just be patient."
The trouble is, the clock does not start now. The clock started in 2015. The clock has been running for 3 years.
If MS had any foresight at all, they would have started projects years ago that would now be ready to at least unveil (not release, just unveil). If they lacked even that minimal degree of foresight, then I don't know what to say. I could not have retained faith in a company whose management was so clueless.
But that doesn't make sense, because they've been making all the right moves in other departments Hardware, BC, etc -- it all shows a focus on what core gamers want. That's why I can't believe they'd be so inept and flatout stupid in this one area (to have no new games ready to unveil after this long).
Yeah, that's not real inspiring. I'm glad they're profitable, but that doesn't do much for me.
Well, your post gave me no reason to get excited.
I dunno. Microsoft has actually had a couple of bangers in the gamea department (Cuphead, Forza 7, and a few others. ) The services and features are second to none, BC has set the standard ans actually improves as they add enhancements, the X is pretty much the best console ever built, and a plethora of other things I forgot to mention.
I fully agree, its time for an injection shot in the 1st party department. Not because the games they have released aren't good /great games, but because the competition has raised the bar in the SP department significantly - the Xbox fanbase wants that same excitement when they plug in and play. Can't blame them, really.
To be fair though; Microsoft has set many standards in other areas that all others fall under. Some are factually game changers. To say that they've been "coasting" is unfair and harshly inaccurate, IMO. Gamers just aren't giving them credit where credit is due. And Microsoft deserves about as much credit for innovation as they do criticism about 1st party games.
I fully agree, its time for an injection shot in the 1st party department. Not because the games they have released aren't good /great games, but because the competition has raised the bar in the SP department significantly - the Xbox fanbase wants that same excitement when they plug in and play. Can't blame them, really.
To be fair though; Microsoft has set many standards in other areas that all others fall under. Some are factually game changers. To say that they've been "coasting" is unfair and harshly inaccurate, IMO. Gamers just aren't giving them credit where credit is due. And Microsoft deserves about as much credit for innovation as they do criticism about 1st party games.
I thought it was clear, but I'm talking about new, big-budget games, outside of Halo/Forza/Gears.
Agree with that. "Coasting" is not at all accurate. Like I said in my post above, they've been doing really well in the other areas over the past few years. This is a big part of why I'm bullish on them. And it's also, like I said above, the reason why I find it very hard to believe that, while they were making all those good moves, that they'd f*ck up so badly in the area that matters most -- to the point that, after 3 or 4 years, they have nothing (outside of Halo/Gears/Forza) to reveal at E3. That would be remarkably sad.
Xbox services and features might be second to none but this isn't the Kentucky Derby where milliseconds decide whether you're a champion, or completely forgotten. Playstations features and services are basically indistinguishable to me which says something, as there aren't many gamers out there I consider more "plugged in" than myself. The vast majority simply don't care about the advantages XBox has over Playstation. Playstation has the games. Games are 9/10ths of all this.
So when I say they're "coasting" I mean coasting where it matters most. The games.
Microsoft just needs more horses. Their stable has been light for a while now. Hopefully that's changing now.
They have made good games but they do have a quality problem in addition to the quantity problem. Their games are not as good as they were last gen on a game by game basis.
Agreed. Everybody who games should want Microsoft to succeed. A landscape with just Sony and Nintendo would only usher in complacency and stagnation.
That said it goes both ways. One of the main reasons we are having these discussions around the Xbox and 1st party issues stems from how the competition is and has been producing quality games. Granted it isn't the only reason but it has now been spot lighted due to recent high profile exclusive releases on other systems.
The successes of Sony and Nintendo highlight the issue with Microsoft and the Xbox. These companies need to play off each other and push each other.
This is what we can all hope is influencing future Xbox 1st party offerings because I fear if they do not right the ship soon they will always be off course.
