The Official E3 2017 Thread

MS, please don't spend too much time on 3rd party games. We need 1st party front and center. Same to Sony. I really wish they'd let the big multi-plat devs show their own stuff. I know, there is a lot of money exchanged, yada yada. I just find that boring.

I also disagree with MS not to show VR. We need to see a plan. We need to see what devices are supported. I don't care if is a next year thing or even longer. They already stated Scorpio was made in part, for high quality VR. They have to show something, IMO. They have to jump off that fence they have been sitting on, one direction or the other.

Not excited about Minecraft, but I totally understand if they have something big like Minecraft 2, if they actually have that. That is a big, no, HUGE property. E3 would be the place to show that. Otherwise, no Minecraft, please.

Bethesda, yeah, they are going to show VR versions of games already out there. This actually has me excited. They have hyped Fallout 4 VR to the point where it has to deliver and they have stated that it will be there. Maybe whats next for Elder Scrolls.

EA, not sure I'm too excited other than Battlefront 2. Isn't there another SW game? Hopefully Madden is actually impressive? Nah.

Ubisoft, I am probably in the minority on really being curious what The Division dev is doing with that Avatar/Pandora game, but they have my attention.

Sony can do whatever. They don't have the pressure that Microsoft has. They just have expectations to match some of their recent 1st party games, which have had stellar reception at E3.

Honestly, the best part of E3 to me, is the surprises. Bring em!
 
BUSTERMAN said:
I am hoping for some mega game announcements from MSFT. Games that will take advantage of Scorpio and show why we need to upgrade. I've been a bit concerned for MSFT's Xbox. They have lost a lot of momentum because of both Sony and Nintendo taking the spotlight with their offerings. I just really hope MSFT has been preparing during that time and shocks the gaming world.
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WTF?! Nobody's talking about Switch right now. No one's talking about Pro either. All eyes are on Microsoft and it will remain that way until Scorpio releases. They have great momentum going into E3. Do you guys even read the s*** you type?
 
Plenty of people are talking about Switch. And if you don't think MS has lost momentum recently (damage to public perception around the issue of exclusive games), you're not reading widely enough, just listening to your Xbox cronies. Get out of the bubble.

You're right that no one is talking about Pro anymore. They're talking about the things that go inside the hardware -- you know, the stuff the hardware is supposed to be about in the first place? You may only have a distant memory of it, being an Xbox fan. I'll give you a hint. It starts with a g.
 
MS conference is the most exciting to me because its such an unknown. We have no idea what games they could be working on.

Sony's is the safest bet of being good as we know of a lot of games that will be there and it should be jam packed

Nintendo's Direct is the easiest to watch because they short and edited. A lot less fluff. Now give me Metroid.


Mcmasters said:
WTF?! Nobody's talking about Switch right now. No one's talking about Pro either. All eyes are on Microsoft and it will remain that way until Scorpio releases. They have great momentum going into E3. Do you guys even read the s*** you type?
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Andy said:
Plenty of people are talking about Switch. And if you don't think MS has lost momentum recently (damage to public perception around the issue of exclusive games), you're not reading widely enough, just listening to your Xbox cronies. Get out of the bubble.

You're right that no one is talking about Pro anymore. They're talking about the things that go inside the hardware -- you know, the stuff the hardware is supposed to be about in the first place? You may only have a distant memory of it, being an Xbox fan. I'll give you a hint. It starts with a g.
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Andy! Now, now, I know you are (deservedly) lashing at McMasters, but there are plenty of games on Xbox. You may not care about them, but they are there.
 
OneBadMutha said:
I believe 2017 will be about Crackdown, Forza, and State of Decay. With the 3rd parties lining up to have their biggest Fall in many years, that's all Microsoft and Xbox need. Sony may have little 1st party outside of GT as well. Anything that goes against the combo of COD WWII, Battlefront, Red Dead, Assassins Creed and Destiny 2 is bound to struggle.

1st half of 2018 I predict Ori 2, Cuphead and Sea of Thieves. Late 2018 will be Halo 6, Forza Horizon and the other stuff prob won't be announced until E3 2018. Spencer has indicated they won't be announcing games years in advance anymore. If he bends to the pressure of showing more of the future, we might see some CGI trailers.
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Years in advance is one thing, but they announce nothing then there will be no AAA titles announced for 2018. That is not good, not good at all.

Especially coming off what is a pretty average 2017, with most titles bunched in the last few months of the year.


It just isn't good enough.
 
Andy said:
Plenty of people are talking about Switch. And if you don't think MS has lost momentum recently (damage to public perception around the issue of exclusive games), you're not reading widely enough, just listening to your Xbox cronies. Get out of the bubble.

You're right that no one is talking about Pro anymore. They're talking about the things that go inside the hardware -- you know, the stuff the hardware is supposed to be about in the first place? You may only have a distant memory of it, being an Xbox fan. I'll give you a hint. It starts with a g.
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Actually, Ive read loads concerning all three consoles and the one that's on everyone's mind is Scorpio. This is even coming from dedicated Sony fanboys who are looking to trade up from Pro. Not just because of the hardware. Many are looking forward to E3 to see what games are coming from Scorpio to help push them over the edge and trade in old consoles. I know exactly what I've been reading. Because you want to dismiss what the gaming community is aching for this year, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's there - in broad daylight.
 
Mcmasters said:
Actually, Ive read loads concerning all three consoles and the one that's on everyone's mind is Scorpio. This is even coming from dedicated Sony fanboys who are looking to trade up from Pro. Not just because of the hardware. Many are looking forward to E3 to see what games are coming from Scorpio to help push them over the edge and trade in old consoles. I know exactly what I've been reading. Because you want to dismiss what the gaming community is aching for this year, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's there - in broad daylight.
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Mcmasters said:
Actually, Ive read loads concerning all three consoles and the one that's on everyone's mind is Scorpio. This is even coming from dedicated Sony fanboys who are looking to trade up from Pro. Not just because of the hardware. Many are looking forward to E3 to see what games are coming from Scorpio to help push them over the edge and trade in old consoles. I know exactly what I've been reading. Because you want to dismiss what the gaming community is aching for this year, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's there - in broad daylight.
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Scorpio is obviously at the forfront for obvious reasons, but Andy isn't wrong either. And if MS really aren't announcing new games at E3 then the exclusive stigma around Xbox 1 will only increase. Especially when Sony will be releasing thatgreat looking bunch of exclusives they announced last E3.
 
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Scorpio is obviously at the forfront for obvious reasons, but Andy isn't wrong either. And if MS really aren't announcing new games at E3 then the exclusive stigma around Xbox 1 will only increase. Especially when Sony will be releasing thatgreat looking bunch of exclusives they announced last E3.
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Its also the first Switch E3
 
MosquitoSmasher said:
Jez Corden from Windows Central apparently confirmed Minecraft will be at Microsoft's show. Not a big surprise of course but please MS, don't spend freaking 10 minutes or longer on that. We really don't need any of that to tbh, but if it does, keep it brief. None of that Hololens or VR filler please.

As for Sony......Shinobi602 saying it's going to be good..... just him expecting a great show or is he already in the know about their show?
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Shinobi will know what Sony has to show. He has told people about Horizon,God Of War, Days Gone,TLOU Part 2, Knack and more. When Shu was pictured with Miyazaki in February he even teased something is happening.
 
My opinion is if MS does not show any new IP then their show will be a complete bore, Scorpio or not. But that's just me talking.
 
dbled34 said:
My opinion is if MS does not show any new IP then their show will be a complete bore, Scorpio or not. But that's just me talking.
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I concur.

Scorpio will loook great but that is it, so it. doesn't really move the excitment gauge all that muchfor me.
 
Mcmasters said:
Actually, Ive read loads
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of poop. :tounge:

I'm not saying Scorpio isn't front and center at this E3. In fact I'm saying the opposite:

Andy said:
This is Scorpio's and Microsoft's E3 year. They've got the spotlight. Let's see what they do with it.
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What I'm saying is, if you think "no one is talking about Switch" and MS hasn't taken some lumps lately, you're living in a bubble. Or maybe you're just doing your usual hyperbole. It's hard to tell with you.

p.s. Btw, although I do think there is excitement for Scorpio, it's not as huge as it might have been, had they waited to reveal it. Instead, they spent a lot of their "excitement capital" on undermining Pro last year. As a result, Scorpio is a known quantity. It's not going to have the WOW! factor that it would've had otherwise.
 
postaboy said:
I doubt we will ever see a new FF tactics again and that good too from Square Enix. The original developers of FF tactics left Square Enix and became kickstarters. In fact, theyre actually working on a game called "Unsung Hero" which is supposed to be a strategy rpg like FF tactics and last time I checked they had like 15,000 backers.
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While pulling the original developers would be nice, it's not like it was a completely unique system that they can't replicate or iterate on.
 
Andy said:
They're talking about the things that go inside the hardware -- you know, the stuff the hardware is supposed to be about in the first place? You may only have a distant memory of it, being an Xbox fan. I'll give you a hint. It starts with a g.
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You might have missed this in your self-imposed exile, but it's actually now considered not a good idea to put a gyro inside your hardware. Sure, the old 360s would have kept them warm until you got hungry again, but apparently it's hell on the electronics.
 
Frozpot said:
Andy! Now, now, I know you are (deservedly) lashing at McMasters, but there are plenty of games on Xbox. You may not care about them, but they are there.
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In terms of the overall catalog, I know; I was just goofing. But the current situation and the trend for the future concerns me. They did well early in the generation, but the last couple E3s have shown a steady and substantial decline in new exclusive IP announcements. Meanwhile, MS seems to be pulling back on SP game investment and moving strongly toward the "games as service" model. And they seem to tie their developers down to the same projects, so we get the same 3 franchises, over and over. None of that sounds good to me.

I miss the old days of original Xbox and early 360, when they were pumping out all kinds of interesting exclusives and new IPs. Seamus Blackley, Ed Fries, J Allard. Those were the days. Now it's shuttered studios, failed projects, cancellations of major games that would've provided some needed variety, and Phil doing PR. Yeah, there are games like Crackdown and Sea of Thieves, too, but they seem fewer and farther between.

The overall trend in the last couple years, combined with future direction they seem to be taking, just isn't looking good to me. I know it all comes down to personal preference, but I also know a lot of other people feel the same.
 
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Is Cuphead finally coming out?
 
Plainview said:
I'm guessing a grand unveil at e3 with a "Avaialble today" ending.
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I'm guessing you'll either be right or supremely disappointed. I'm hoping for the former. I'd put it at maybe 75-25 odds in favor of the latter.
 
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I'm guessing a grand unveil at e3 with a "Avaialble today" ending.
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That would be great. I'd love to see that. I'd laugh at what bad spellers they are.

So, no release date, still. Cuphead, Cuphead, where art thou, Cuphead? I'm shaking my cuphead.
 
I'll keep beating the same tired drum regardless of how unpopular it is. You can have new and fresh games and experiences leveraging online more than you can create new and fresh experiences with scripted, story driven single player campaigns. People who want story driven stuff who don't think there's enough provided from 3rd parties go to PlayStation. That's not changing if MS announces 2 big story driven campaigns at E3.

It's true Microsofts 1st party is tired. That's not due to focusing on online gaming. That's due to their first party going from being the trend setters online to lagging behind every major publisher. Outside of Driveclub, has Sony had anything that performed as poorly online as the Master Chief collection? Even today, 2 years later, Halo 5 has performance issues in most regions.

The more games MS has leveraging Azure, the better the performance will be accross the board. Right now MS utilizes only a handful of their servers for dedicated gaming. That's why their online stuff is nearly unplayable outside the US and why it's sucks in many markets within the U.S. Why does Titanfall 2, a game from a smaller development house relying on a publisher with less servers than Microsoft with a smaller user base than Halo 5 have much cleaner online performance than Halo 5 in most regions across the world? It's because EA invests in more servers for gaming due to the fact that they have farrr more gamers using them across the world. They have people playing Battlefield, Battlefront, FIFA, Mass Effect and Madden and that helps Titanfall.

MS needs to have their games help each other. They were too unfocused. If they have more overall players across the world and some developers innovate, the other Microsoft franchises will benefit.

So yeah...that's why I'm doubling down on Microsoft ignoring single player only games for now. Online needs to be leveraged with everything they publish.
 
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By the time Cuphead gets released, the hype is going to be a lot to live up to. Microsoft's games are already viewed with a sceptical eye as it is.
 
Dno69 said:
By the time Cuphead gets released, the hype is going to be a lot to live up to. Microsoft's games are already viewed with a sceptical eye as it is.
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Cuphead is a Studio MDHR game, not from a Microsoft studio. If you want to be skeptical of a game for the simple fact it's not coming to PlayStation...that's silly.
 
Andy said:
In terms of the overall catalog, I know; I was just goofing. But the current situation and the trend for the future concerns me. They did well early in the generation, but the last couple E3s have shown a steady and substantial decline in new exclusive IP announcements. Meanwhile, MS seems to be pulling back on SP game investment and moving strongly toward the "games as service" model. And they seem to tie their developers down to the same projects, so we get the same 3 franchises, over and over. None of that sounds good to me.

I miss the old days of original Xbox and early 360, when they were pumping out all kinds of interesting exclusives and new IPs. Seamus Blackley, Ed Fries, J Allard. Those were the days. Now it's shuttered studios, failed projects, cancellations of major games that would've provided some needed variety, and Phil doing PR. Yeah, there are games like Crackdown and Sea of Thieves, too, but they seem fewer and farther between.

The overall trend in the last couple years, combined with future direction they seem to be taking, just isn't looking good to me. I know it all comes down to personal preference, but I also know a lot of other people feel the same.
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Whether its new IPs or bringing back old IPs I just want them to be better. This is just me but I used to enjoy their first party lineup the best and now I find them mostly disappointing.
 
OneBadMutha said:
I'll keep beating the same tired drum regardless of how unpopular it is. You can have new and fresh games and experiences leveraging online more than you can create new and fresh experiences with scripted, story driven single player campaigns. People who want story driven stuff who don't think there's enough provided from 3rd parties go to PlayStation. That's not changing if MS announces 2 big story driven campaigns at E3.

It's true Microsofts 1st party is tired. That's not due to focusing on online gaming. That's due to their first party going from being the trend setters online to lagging behind every major publisher. Outside of Driveclub, has Sony had anything that performed as poorly online as the Master Chief collection? Even today, 2 years later, Halo 5 has performance issues in most regions.

The more games MS has leveraging Azure, the better the performance will be accross the board. Right now MS utilizes only a handful of their servers for dedicated gaming. That's why their online stuff is nearly unplayable outside the US and why it's sucks in many markets within the U.S. Why does Titanfall 2, a game from a smaller development house relying on a publisher with less servers than Microsoft with a smaller user base than Halo 5 have much cleaner online performance than Halo 5 in most regions across the world? It's because EA invests in more servers for gaming due to the fact that they have farrr more gamers using them across the world. They have people playing Battlefield, Battlefront, FIFA, Mass Effect and Madden and that helps Titanfall.

MS needs to have their games help each other. They were too unfocused. If they have more overall players across the world and some developers innovate, the other Microsoft franchises will benefit.

So yeah...that's why I'm doubling down on Microsoft ignoring single player only games for now. Online needs to be leveraged with everything they publish.
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That was funny. You have anymore fictional stories to tell?

For starters; Titanfall 2 still uses the azure network. It also uses other cloud based hosting and some tradtion dedicated servers too.

Also, Azure has data centers all over the place. It is not limited to the US at all.

You actually praised EA's servers, LMFAO. Granted, BF1 and Battle Front were surprisingly smooth, but generally EA servers are terrible.
 
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