I keep saying MS has to get something for ME from EA and so far I haven't seen anything untill this that could compensate the value
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How can Respawn talk on behalf of EA? I have not seen Respawn say anything about EA not owning publishing rights. They did say that they partnered with EA for Publishing and that they were happy about it but nothing suggesting that it's only for first game.
Now between MS and EA what kind of deal they make is completelly out of Respawn hands and they have no say in it nor do they need to know about it.
Respawn owns the IP but EA owns the right as to whom that Game can be sold to and how for how much etc.
They would never give IP ownership to any publisher are you forgetting how Activision took their game and let Treyarch make it
Why is everyone saying Sony's game division is in so much trouble? I was under the impression that the PlayStation brand has been a very successful franchise for them. What am I missing?
Sony itself has serious financial issues and SCE is not helping at all. It has been this way for years. I mean SCE was successful, but not in profit-wise.
I have to pass a gamestop on the way home. Wondering if I should sceam something sucks. 11pm where I'm at
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While true, to assume they own the rights but aren't saying so is very odd.
Where is this idea that companies secretly own rights like that? They may have some sort of first dib option, they may not.. they may outright own it.. but I don't see any big reason for them to have a multi-game deal they are hiding. The words they choose are fairly careful, but they seem to spell out a message to me: Respawn has a choice. They most definitely own the IP, and made confident statements about how the MS exclusive deal is only for the first game. They also stated they wanted to make PS4 games.. they posted a frowny face when saying that they were only recently told that EA had changed the deal from timed to outright exclusive with MS.
Beyond that it's most carefully worded "happy to be partnering" stuff.. Respawn seems pretty cool on that aspect and I respect them, but I dunno.. call me crazy.. read between the lines.. they seem to be hinting they want the game to be multi-platform.. they outright stated that the initial deal EA made was for timed, etc. And in turn also seemed to be hinting that they control future prospects... without outright saying it because the messaging right now is for Titanfall and MS is their major partner, and it would be not very kosher for them to start outright discussing future potential multi-plat games, might even be contractually obligated to only make vague statements even when it comes to their deal with EA moving forward.
They haven't fulfilled their contract to EA so they can't just say everything they want.. but if EA has a multi-game deal there would be nothing stopping EA from saying that. So why haven't they?
Why are you repeating what I just said?
Well Reaspawn can tweet on behalf of EA just as much as I could tweet on behalf of you.By typing words into Twitter
While true, to assume they own the rights but aren't saying so is very odd.
Where is this idea that companies secretly own rights like that? They may have some sort of first dib option, they may not.. they may outright own it.. but I don't see any big reason for them to have a multi-game deal they are hiding. The words they choose are fairly careful, but they seem to spell out a message to me: Respawn has a choice. They most definitely own the IP, and made confident statements about how the MS exclusive deal is only for the first game. They also stated they wanted to make PS4 games.. they posted a frowny face when saying that they were only recently told that EA had changed the deal from timed to outright exclusive with MS.
Beyond that it's most carefully worded "happy to be partnering" stuff.. Respawn seems pretty cool on that aspect and I respect them, but I dunno.. call me crazy.. read between the lines.. they seem to be hinting they want the game to be multi-platform.. they outright stated that the initial deal EA made was for timed, etc. And in turn also seemed to be hinting that they control future prospects... without outright saying it because the messaging right now is for Titanfall and MS is their major partner, and it would be not very kosher for them to start outright discussing future potential multi-plat games, might even be contractually obligated to only make vague statements even when it comes to their deal with EA moving forward.
Why are you repeating what I just said?
Second while you could be right everything Respawn said could be taken number of ways.
Was the sad face about preventing them from ever putting it on PS4 or was it about being unhappy that EA just didn't tell them anything out of respect?
They specificly said MS exclusive for Title Only which can mean multiple things also. Title as in publishing only to MS, title as in Only First game? Title as in whole series of Titanfall as Respawn owns IP in other words they own all the characters and maps, game engine etc but not the name Titanfall.
I'm repeating myself because you are contradicting yourself.
In the long term, total exclusivity is highly over-rated. If Microsoft was to release the Aniversary Edition of Halo 1 on all platforms, it would boost sales in the current and coming generation of Microsoft consoles, so people could play the rest of the games. The long and the short of it is: Titanfall is an XB1 console exclusive, as yet unproven, and it will be several years before a sequel will become an issue. 'Nuff Said.
I've brought that up in the past as well. I'd say great minds think alike but I wouldn't want to insult you by lumping you in with whatever adjective best describes my mind.
Of course, it doesn't really follow that it had to be something big - ME was already several years old at that point so it could well have just been something that MS did to garner goodwill with EA.
That's.. silly. And you guys are assuming that their words would "be on behalf of EA"... again part of the problem here.. they aren't necessarily on behalf of EA because EA doesn't necessarily control publishing rights beyond the first Titanfall.
And everything Respawn is saying seems to suggest Respawn has at least some control, at least that's my theory... your theory is they are idiots that don't know their IP and product any better than we know each other.. nonsensical.
Let's all pretend words don't have meanings?
They were asked if it was for the series or just this release.. their response.. just this release.
Where did I contradict myself? Saying something like that without explaining yourself?
You are on a short leash expecting responses from me.
Answer one question for me though: If EA has publishing rights to future Titanfall titles, why are they hiding that fact? Since when is that how publishing deals are announced? And why are they allowing Respawn to make confident statements about future titles?
I went by my GS and there were three people there.
That was hour ago though. I'm debating if I want to get my PS4 tonight or tomorrow.
You are contradicting yourself by saying yes EA owns publishing rights than go and say how Respawn can go and talk about Publishing on behalf of EA. you don't necessarily know if it's for one game or the IP. Respawn seems like it has little knowledge of whats happening besides actually making the game as they only found out about things after deals were made. EA being like Hitler of gaming industry doubtfully would do this with financial backing without good deal EG Series Publishing Rights. Respawn didn't have many choices EA or Ubisoft.
Well yes to us the game was few years old, but to Sony fans it was like having to wait for GTAV few years and finally getting it. To them the series would of been very crippled without first one and best one. Plus MS financed that game 100% so IDK , but seeing how EA went behind Respawns back on Titanfall EA must of owed MS a BIGGGG one. Could be MS making it rain $$$$$$ on EAI've brought that up in the past as well. I'd say great minds think alike but I wouldn't want to insult you by lumping you in with whatever adjective best describes my mind.
Of course, it doesn't really follow that it had to be something big - ME was already several years old at that point so it could well have just been something that MS did to garner goodwill with EA.
That was being facecious. My point was Respawn has made those statements.. so they already have spoken on the topic.. neither you nor I know if they absolutely 100% can back up the statements.. but you are basically assuming they can't.
I am not assuming, but suggesting it seems most likely they can.
The only known fact is that EA has publishing rights to the first title, it's not a contradiction to suggest that Respawn can possibly speak for the publication of future titles.
It's all up to how much Respawn signed over with their deal.
Still.. will someone answer the question?
If EA negotiated future rights why the secrecy? They've only made statements that they "hope" to have a long term partnership.. and that may be in Respawn's best interest.. but they don't HAVE to bend over backwards to every EA whim unless they have signed over everything to EA.
All I'm suggesting is that Respawn might have the control.. obviously they need publishers but they if they are sold out for years to come it seems like we'd know that.
Of course I didn't scream anything! Just passed it on the highway. Looked dead, but I don't have the best vision.
I'm getting ready to go to mine and see if it's packed out the ass. If so, I'm getting mine in the morning.
You can, you unlock the costume for beating the game on any difficulty, and you unlock his blaster as a weapon for beating it on nightmare
I'm not sure about your question. Then again someone being quiet about something doesn't mean that there isn't something there.
They didn't specificly say long term relationship for this game series or overall. I'm not sure how these deals go if they make a publishing deal for game series does Respawn have to continue making the series? Can they just choose to say we will not make Titanfall 2 and say we will make different game and with owning the IP they can bring all of their designs into the new game and choose different publisher?
This guy im temping with said he was going to stop at WallyWorld after he got off and try to get one. I mentioned the price and he didn't know it was only $400, He thought it was $600 for some reason. Hope he gets what he wants.
From what I've read it's highly variable. My theory that it's more in Respawn's hands simply stems from the aggregation of all comments made. Respawn being sure to state they own the IP, Respawn being such a small company saying they will definitely make PS4 games in the future, speaking with confidence that the deal is only for the "first release not the series, etc."
Companies have given up almost all rights, partial rights, or very few rights with publishing deals as far as series vs. individual titles go. But when it's a long-term deal I've never heard of a company being shy about stating that it's a long term deal.
EA is a publicly traded company that has every reason to tell their shareholders about a lucrative long term deal they've made basically.
Could be Sony asked them not to say anything till after launch. I don't know either way. Just a thought.
I drove by and saw about 50 - 60 people. I said, "F that."
I'll mine in the morning if they don't give it away.
So how is it that X1 is going to have free games with gold in 2014? I guessing limited game library,and the games would still cost over $30. Shoot I was glad to hear it. What can they offer if its not 360 games? Which it can't be.
My guess is something similar to psn+, but with one rented game and one always own game instead of 2 full own games.
My guess is with arcade and indie games..and poorly selling retail games, it also probably won't start on the X1 for about a year.
My guess would be they'd start it Novemberish next year as sort of a one year anniversary of x1 launch
Yeah that I know, but still a years library. I read they don't do games over$30 my hope is they try to go toe to toe with used games prices.
This has actually made my day especially as it's half price if added to a launch bundle!!!!!!!
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