Yeah I'm not really torn, I know they both present their own advantages and disadvantages but I'm almost 100% going with the Samsung.
Which 4K HDR TV are you planning to buy for Scorpio or One s?
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Yeah I'm not really torn, I know they both present their own advantages and disadvantages but I'm almost 100% going with the Samsung.
But 4K certainly is not a waist for people that game on gaming monitors at a desk, like me . that's were it will really shine . Maybe the reason they have not released a 4K HDR monitor yet is because of input lag with HDR? If that's the case will just upgrade to a standard 1ms 4K 10bit panel and not worry about HDR support . Sucks either way .
Val how do I upload pics of the TV on here?As expected....How about some screens? Some screens of the set in a lit setting would be great and some in the dark with a black background with a logo or text be even better
I want to bring this up again so I can encourage everyone reading this forum to up vote bitstream audio / add Dolby Atmos and DTS: X support on the Xbox.com suggestion forum.
This isn't even a UHD thing specifically, as there are standard Blu-ray discs that support this standard, which PS4 already supports for movies. (I will also be getting a much-delayed PS4 soon) Anyway, I really wish Microsoft or Sony would even go a step further and support games development for either or both formats. Games are already object-based for audio, so I can't see it being too difficult, once it's already there for BD. They just have to work with one of those companies to get the backend coding straightened out.
I will start a thread about the formats themselves when I get some time. There seem to be a lot of myths about object-based 3D audio, and the reality is much more positive. I just got an Onkyo receiver that does both formats and an Onkyo 5.1.2 speaker setup that have upward-firing height drivers on the mains, as I don't want to mount anymore stuff (other than my projector) on the ceiling. I will actually hook all this up when I can get the time, which is killing me right now because I am so ready to fire that sucker up!
Just picked up a 60" Samsung KS8000 series. Picture is awesome even with just the upscaling. I have not tried any 4k content other than youtube videos. Standard Blueray upscaled looks fantastic. I will pick up a Xbox One S in a couple of weeks to go with it. May even wait on Christmas bundles to come out.
Knew it was going to happen.... Got a bonus at work and caved/splurged on the 65KS8000 and an Xbox One S. I'm all setup and ready and the Xbox One S detects the TV as a full 4K HDR set (Forza Horizon 3 cannot come soon enuf!). Still need to calibrate my TV input (Tivo) but the Xbox One S is dialed in pretty tight. Love the TV (features/quality and aesthetics) so far and already sold my old one so no going back now ;-).
As long as you understand that the HDR10 here is considered "lower end" on these models (I can't find any good specific reviews for this model nor the models in the same class but smaller size). If you go to a review site like rtings.com you'll see the LG 6000 series generally getting lower ratings for HDR.
One of the issues is that this tech is still so new that there are hardly any "real" reviews in regards to HDR content (only a few movies support and games coming soon). One of the reasons I went with the KS8000 was that it tests out well across the board and was/is on sale for $1799 (65"). It also sucks that there is this format confusion regarding Dolby Vision and HDR10. From what I gather HDR10 has more initial support (and even the Dolby Vision supporting TVs are also supporting HDR10). The Xbox One S also only supports HDR10 that I know of. This made me more comfortable going with an HDR10 only TV but I guess we'll see. If I was you, I might wait until the games hit and the reviews come out with HDR in mind or just more reviews come out in general. Also going into Black Friday, you may see a lot more deals on these TVs. I should have waited as well but I was jonesing
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You make some good points, but man I have such little patience. I agree I think I will wait till black Friday.As long as you understand that the HDR10 here is considered "lower end" on these models (I can't find any good specific reviews for this model nor the models in the same class but smaller size). If you go to a review site like rtings.com you'll see the LG 6000 series generally getting lower ratings for HDR.
One of the issues is that this tech is still so new that there are hardly any "real" reviews in regards to HDR content (only a few movies support and games coming soon). One of the reasons I went with the KS8000 was that it tests out well across the board and was/is on sale for $1799 (65"). It also sucks that there is this format confusion regarding Dolby Vision and HDR10. From what I gather HDR10 has more initial support (and even the Dolby Vision supporting TVs are also supporting HDR10). The Xbox One S also only supports HDR10 that I know of. This made me more comfortable going with an HDR10 only TV but I guess we'll see. If I was you, I might wait until the games hit and the reviews come out with HDR in mind or just more reviews come out in general. Also going into Black Friday, you may see a lot more deals on these TVs. I should have waited as well but I was jonesing
As long as you understand that the HDR10 here is considered "lower end" on these models (I can't find any good specific reviews for this model nor the models in the same class but smaller size). If you go to a review site like rtings.com you'll see the LG 6000 series generally getting lower ratings for HDR.
One of the issues is that this tech is still so new that there are hardly any "real" reviews in regards to HDR content (only a few movies support and games coming soon). One of the reasons I went with the KS8000 was that it tests out well across the board and was/is on sale for $1799 (65"). It also sucks that there is this format confusion regarding Dolby Vision and HDR10. From what I gather HDR10 has more initial support (and even the Dolby Vision supporting TVs are also supporting HDR10). The Xbox One S also only supports HDR10 that I know of. This made me more comfortable going with an HDR10 only TV but I guess we'll see. If I was you, I might wait until the games hit and the reviews come out with HDR in mind or just more reviews come out in general. Also going into Black Friday, you may see a lot more deals on these TVs. I should have waited as well but I was jonesing
Yeah, it is a bit of a shame that the KS doesn't support the Dolby Vision, but I'm hoping it can be patched in an update if it gains traction. The TV certainly has the Color Range and Contrast ratio for it (scoring higher in those categories than the P series, and THAT does Dolby Vision).
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Picture Quality is better on the P and the HDR itself beats contract and color range ratio. The Samsung is a good set though but at the price you should consider paying the extra $200 and getting the P series.
Not according to rtings.com, it doesn't, and they seem pretty darn thorough.
It does as the P series is Fall Array that Sammy isn't.(this difference doesn't disappear regardless of what a random site says)
Also has more HDR modes. It would take the same tech or better tech to beat the P series.
Also has more HDR modes. It would take the same tech or better tech to beat the P series.
Ah yes, forget the "random" site that does in depth TV reviews, and listen to Val who apparently thinks the only factor worth considering is if a TV is full array back-lit or not. Lol, OK. Oh, sorry they didn't give the top spot to your chosen TV set, so it must not matter.
I wonder if your devotion to this feature has anything at all with being the only feature a lot of TVs don't have but yours does... Hmmmmm... You might have a point if the Sammy didn't have Local Dimming, but it does.
I'll give you Dolby Vision, though I don't know if that is necessarily that big of a deal, and I will say that Full Array is a good thing. That's not all there is.
Your tv is edge lit with baked local dimming.
Its technically impossible for it to look better than a 4k Full Array TV unless that FA tv had like 8 dimming zones and even than I'd find it hard to believe.
Its technically impossible for it to look better than a 4k Full Array TV unless that FA tv had like 8 dimming zones and even than I'd find it hard to believe.
Whatever you say, man. You realize your assessment means nothing to me, right? I can't take you seriously. Too much bias. Entreri804 made better arguments the right way.
If you dated my better half you would learn "how to argue properly" as she says. Lol.
After doing some research it doesn't look like there's any way possible to do a software update for Dolby vision because the TVs that support it have a special dolby chip installed on the circuit board. But hey I could totally be wrong on this because somehow Sony is going to make HDR work with HDMI 1.4. But I hope there's some way to get around this without it being fully Hardware because it's definitely the better format and of the two.
I just bought the Sony Bravia XBR-49X800D for my bedroom since that's where I do my gaming, I know it's not high end but I don't see the point in buying a top of the line type of set because it seems we are in sort of a transitional period for 4K and HDR and until these TV manufacturers settle on one HDR standard and getting input lag down I figured this would be good enough and hold me over. It was on sale for $799 for the 49 inch set, I've played Battlefront on it in standard and vivid and didn't notice any input lag at all, didn't even bother trying gaming mode as it wasn't needed. I just watched The Shallows on it and even though that was a 1080p movie it looked very nice, much better than the 7 year old 1080p LG I have. I got this and a 5 year warranty for less than the Samsung KS8000 of the same size, that set also looks very nice but it just wasn't $500 better than the Sony IMO.
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Well, when Scorpio comes out, I'll be getting a matching 4k/HDR tv to take advantage of it's native 4k feature set and 4k player. 
Most tvs are 4k now, but only some have HDR. Hopefully by next fall HDR will be standard, or pretty close to it so I don't have to thumb through all these models.
For me, I don't care about all the built in wi-fi or Smart TV features. I'll stick to Panasonic or Samsung, get a 60" tv or bigger, and I want a tv with that crisp Motion Plus or whatever it's called. I'm assuming the higher the number the better.... I've seen 120, 240 and I think even 480.
However, as some guys said in this thread earlier, if a Vizio can churn out an great experience, I'll do it. A Vizio is probably a good $500 cheaper than a $2,000+ Panny/Samsung.
I'm probably in the minority, but I like to watch my sports at super smooth soap opera mode. First time I saw this in action watching football at a friends place (it was a new feature back in the day in Sharp Aquos tvs), it was awesome.
It is a weird feature. I want my action movies to be classic 24 fps cinema frames, but I want my sports at super smooth mode.
Most tvs are 4k now, but only some have HDR. Hopefully by next fall HDR will be standard, or pretty close to it so I don't have to thumb through all these models.
For me, I don't care about all the built in wi-fi or Smart TV features. I'll stick to Panasonic or Samsung, get a 60" tv or bigger, and I want a tv with that crisp Motion Plus or whatever it's called. I'm assuming the higher the number the better.... I've seen 120, 240 and I think even 480.
However, as some guys said in this thread earlier, if a Vizio can churn out an great experience, I'll do it. A Vizio is probably a good $500 cheaper than a $2,000+ Panny/Samsung.
I'm probably in the minority, but I like to watch my sports at super smooth soap opera mode. First time I saw this in action watching football at a friends place (it was a new feature back in the day in Sharp Aquos tvs), it was awesome.
It is a weird feature. I want my action movies to be classic 24 fps cinema frames, but I want my sports at super smooth mode.
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If you turn the motion plus on for games, you will loose a LOT of response. I don't think there is a TV on the market that doesn't at least double the lag with that mode on. Plus, with games, it creates a ton of artifacts.Well, when Scorpio comes out, I'll be getting a matching 4k/HDR tv to take advantage of it's native 4k feature set and 4k player.
Most tvs are 4k now, but only some have HDR. Hopefully by next fall HDR will be standard, or pretty close to it so I don't have to thumb through all these models.
For me, I don't care about all the built in wi-fi or Smart TV features. I'll stick to Panasonic or Samsung, get a 60" tv or bigger, and I want a tv with that crisp Motion Plus or whatever it's called. I'm assuming the higher the number the better.... I've seen 120, 240 and I think even 480.
However, as some guys said in this thread earlier, if a Vizio can churn out an great experience, I'll do it. A Vizio is probably a good $500 cheaper than a $2,000+ Panny/Samsung.
I'm probably in the minority, but I like to watch my sports at super smooth soap opera mode. First time I saw this in action watching football at a friends place (it was a new feature back in the day in Sharp Aquos tvs), it was awesome.
It is a weird feature. I want my action movies to be classic 24 fps cinema frames, but I want my sports at super smooth mode.
Game mode shuts off all of those special modes. That's why it achieves the lowest lag it can
I'm still in the stone age of TVs - still rocking a 1080p LG TV, but hopefully will be picking up a set during the holidays.
However, I am looking for a ~40" TV that I can use for my office, and there doesn't seem to be a great ~40" TV on the market. It appears I may have to wait until next year to move up to 4K.
However, I am looking for a ~40" TV that I can use for my office, and there doesn't seem to be a great ~40" TV on the market. It appears I may have to wait until next year to move up to 4K.
I impulse bought a Samsung UE43KU6000 - 43" Ultra HD 4K HDR TV. Its not premium HDR so dont get the full benefits of the higher end Samsung models but should see some benefits. This will replace my Sharp Aquos 46" 1080p TV in the lounge for now until I upgrade to a 65" probably another Sammy with full HDR next year. I just wanted to experience Gears 4 in 4K (up-scaled on Xbox One S) so pushed the button. I've read positive reviews especially for gaming so hopefully should be good.
I haven't been here in a minute but it's a shame this thread isn't being used anymore. Is there a newer version of this thread? Thought it was nice to get info on different sets in one spot. If not I guess lock it. I try to get info at the AVS forums such as things like input lag but info like that is sparse and not everyone there plays video games unless I'm not looking in the right places.
