Project Scorpio v3.0

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JinCA said:
I don't buy that crap, it's only real butter for this guy. Also if it's supposed to be vagina I wouldn't know, that's not my thing and if you are talking about the other spot sorry that doesn't feel like butter, at least not any of the ones I've stuck my finger in :p
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A perfectly toasted Thomas's English Muffin with real butter. :ydrunk:
 
Sasquatch Montana said:
Thats a valid reason for doing it though.The fallout alone. Me. id be happy with Black and White and final fantasies 78910and12. Probably legal too since its just a class of PC.

Didnt Valve release Steamboxes a few years ago? Can they play SFV?
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Yeah it's on the Steamboxes... but it's also on Mac.

Just goes to show, Capcom are desperate enough for money, that they're selling console exclusivity for their biggest brands, and are thirsty enough to put a game on the MS store! :p
 
Tim Sweeney is allowed to dislike MSs store and WMP. It doesn't make what MS is doing unethical. They are allowed to use their competitive advantages to build up their own store. I think society doesn't understand what a monopoly is anymore. Anytime MS tries to expand their business into a new territory, we hear somebody prominent and credible use the term monopoly to discredit the objective and scare tactic the market. Right now Steam has the PC gaming market by the balls so it's ironic that new competition to it would be called an attempt at a monopoly out the gate.
 
OneBadMutha said:
Tim Sweeney is allowed to dislike MSs store and WMP. It doesn't make what MS is doing unethical. They are allowed to use their competitive advantages to build up their own store.
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Way to sit on that fence there! :p

You're right though.

People love puritanical idealology of entertainment and art being exclusive from influence and shaping from commercialism, as if it's outrageous and cheapens their experience/enjoyment.
 
hrudey said:
Well, yeah, and people wouldn't like it if firemen came around molesting their cats either, but that doesn't lend any credence to a story alleging that's what they're doing. Microsoft would be absolutely destroyed if they made it so you couldn't run applications from sources other than the Windows store. Corporate customers would s*** bricks if the software they've developed in house over the past decades is suddenly no longer available to them (even if it could be enabled with a 'developer mode' hack or some such), and they'd lose more money on that than they could gain if they absorbed all of Sony and Valve's gaming revenue.
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MS has had a history of being a bit predatory with their business practices, again I don't know that what Sweeny is saying is agreed with by many but if what he says is true I can see his point.
 
Oblong said:
Stop that. Most of the big PC games come to consoles any way and this week Indies don't count. :txbrolleyes:

What becomes of the Master Race when ultra settings show up on a lowly kid's box? :laugh:
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Ultra settings is a relative term. The exact nature of a console prohibits it from playing games at 'ultra' settings indefinitely.

TLDR; gaming PCs will always have the visual advantage. They are not static. You could argue that the 360 launched with better hardware than a gaming rig of the time and that was right.

Today consoles have not kept up. The Scorpio will be a huge jump over the XB1 but you need to keep it in context. The XB1 was already behind modern gaming rigs significantly so the Scorpio while more powerful will still be behind visually compared to a powerful gaming computer.

People need to temper their expectations for the console hardware advances. In the PC space you literally have new more powerful GPUs launching less than a year sometimes after the previous top card. Consoles don't have that type of upgrade cycle. Not yet.
 
The Living Tribunal said:
Ultra settings is a relative term. The exact nature of a console prohibits it from playing games at 'ultra' settings indefinitely.

TLDR; gaming PCs will always have the visual advantage. They are not static. You could argue that the 360 launched with better hardware than a gaming rig of the time and that was right.

Today consoles have not kept up. The Scorpio will be a huge jump over the XB1 but you need to keep it in context. The XB1 was already behind modern gaming rigs significantly so the Scorpio while more powerful will still be behind visually compared to a powerful gaming computer.

People need to temper their expectations for the console hardware advances. In the PC space you literally have new more powerful GPUs launching less than a year sometimes after the previous top card. Consoles don't have that type of upgrade cycle. Not yet.
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And again -- we've all ready heard from inside journalists and developers who have reiterated that this isnt a PC. As I understand it consoles are a different beasts in the way of, say, "wolves and dogs", but as Ive also come to understand it - Scorpio will be able to perform some very PC-centric functions, especially when you consider you'll be able to play PC games on the console. Simply put, we just dont know what's going to happen with a console of this type. There has never been a gaming box with this much power. But I do know that its been said ad-nauseum that those who are thinking PC in terms of the console space are on a different track. Just doenst seem like forumers and devs are on the same page at all.
 
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You are both right. PC's do keep evolving and Scorpio will have the advantage of custom hardware dedicated to gaming. It's much easier to make a dedicated gaming machine shine than it is to provide something that works on a myriad of configurations out in the wild.
 
http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-scor...-console-ever-created-says-shadow-of-war-dev/

Xbox Scorpio "will be the most powerful console ever created" says Shadow of War studio head
By Leon Hurley 4 hours agoNews

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Monolith's studio head Kevin Stephens said some interesting things about Xbox's Project Scorpio when we spoke to him recently about the upcoming Middle-earth sequel Shadow of War.

The recently announced Shadow of War is one of the first games to confirm it'll be on Scorpio - buying a digital copy from the Xbox or Windows Store will also get you a version for Scorpio when the console launches (although, technically, everything on Xbox/PC will run on the platform). When we spoke to Stephens about the upcoming console, he replied, "We've found nothing false about their claims about the hardware. As far as we can tell, it will be the most powerful console ever created when it launches - unless somebody has an announcement I don't know about."

When it comes to the overall Xbox ecosystem, Stephen's continues: "I can't speak for Microsoft, but from our point of view they seem very committed to, you know, if you buy an Xbox One, whether it's a One, or an S, or a Scorpio you're going to buy a game and [be able to] play it on any of them. That seems very consistent with our experience of working on those platforms."

As for any problems or issues developing for vague specs, Stephen's said, "I think the biggest thing has been access to hardware, because they always come in hot. Just like everything."
 
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VaLLiancE said:
The device has to have the hardware built in.
Nothing can get the upgrade unless its there already from reading through the threads
on my TV(the only TV to get it that I am aware of)They say the TV had the hardware all along but Sony and Dolby didn't come to terms until it was announced this Jan @ CES.
No UHDBR player that doesn't say its getting it will get it as the hardware isn't there.
I wish it was that easy cause than I could just keep this Samsung UHDBR player.
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Entreri804 said:
https://hdguru.com/dolby-vision-ultra-hd-blu-ray-support-awaits-mediatek-soc/
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Dolby Vision HDR Ready for Many More 4K Devices Thanks To Software Version

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In reference to all the possible adoptions of the revamped Dolby Vision high dynamic range standard, Dolby has stated that:

“There are implementations that can run Dolby Vision in software, certainly in the console space but also in the TV SoC space. Specifics vary on a case-by-case basis depending on the hardware capability of the silicon in question, but we have development kits for various types of implementations, depending on the application: full hardware, hybrid of software and hardware or [and this is the crucial bit] full software.”

http://4k.com/news/dolby-vision-hdr-ready-for-many-more-4k-devices-thanks-to-software-version-18728/

Hate to say told ya so. No, wait. I don't.
 
Mcmasters said:
And again -- we've all ready heard from inside journalists and developers who have reiterated that this isnt a PC. As I understand it consoles are a different beasts in the way of, say, "wolves and dogs", but as Ive also come to understand it - Scorpio will be able to perform some very PC-centric functions, especially when you consider you'll be able to play PC games on the console. Simply put, we just dont know what's going to happen with a console of this type. There has never been a gaming box with this much power. But I do know that its been said ad-nauseum that those who are thinking PC in terms of the console space are on a different track. Just doenst seem like forumers and devs are on the same page at all.
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I never said the Scorpio was a PC and I never said it wouldn't be able to perform PC visual fidelity. What I was asserting is that PCs will always have the visual edge be it raw pixel counts or shading algorithms.
 
honestly I think it will be called Xbox two(going inline by starting at one again, slim will be Xbox2S every hardware revision will add a S or next number) or Xbox 4k. Just plain and simple.
 
Tmecha said:
honestly I think it will be called Xbox two(going inline by starting at one again, slim will be Xbox2S every hardware revision will add a S or next number) or Xbox 4k. Just plain and simple.
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I could see that... However, it would be difficult branding the games that way. I think they will want to keep the games saying Xbox One, with the same packaging that they are currently using. If the games are forward/backward compatible, why change them?

I honestly think it'll be called Xbox One ___. With anything but something starting with S, to avoid confusion with the S model. Elite is currently the best choice I've heard, imo. I wouldn't be surprised if it's something completely new, though. What about Xbox One Brute? It starts with a B. The next one could start with a C, and so on. Just a thought.
 
The Living Tribunal said:
I never said the Scorpio was a PC and I never said it wouldn't be able to perform PC visual fidelity. What I was asserting is that PCs will always have the visual edge be it raw pixel counts or shading algorithms.
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I think if you used the word "potentially" it would make more sense simply because not all PC's are created equal. Not everyone has the latest or even last 2 or 3 years graphics cards in their PC or over 8GB of RAM. I get what you mean and I agree with you but I think that may be where some people find room to debate.
 
GordoSan said:
Dolby Vision HDR Ready for Many More 4K Devices Thanks To Software Version

Key part:
In reference to all the possible adoptions of the revamped Dolby Vision high dynamic range standard, Dolby has stated that:

“There are implementations that can run Dolby Vision in software, certainly in the console space but also in the TV SoC space. Specifics vary on a case-by-case basis depending on the hardware capability of the silicon in question, but we have development kits for various types of implementations, depending on the application: full hardware, hybrid of software and hardware or [and this is the crucial bit] full software.”

http://4k.com/news/dolby-vision-hdr-ready-for-many-more-4k-devices-thanks-to-software-version-18728/

Hate to say told ya so. No, wait. I don't.
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Is that really going to be as good as having the hardware built in though?
 
Rollins said:
http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-scor...-console-ever-created-says-shadow-of-war-dev/

Xbox Scorpio "will be the most powerful console ever created" says Shadow of War studio head
By Leon Hurley 4 hours agoNews

ARvTuhJBtwTAqvuFrAjDPh-480-80.jpg

Monolith's studio head Kevin Stephens said some interesting things about Xbox's Project Scorpio when we spoke to him recently about the upcoming Middle-earth sequel Shadow of War.

The recently announced Shadow of War is one of the first games to confirm it'll be on Scorpio - buying a digital copy from the Xbox or Windows Store will also get you a version for Scorpio when the console launches (although, technically, everything on Xbox/PC will run on the platform). When we spoke to Stephens about the upcoming console, he replied, "We've found nothing false about their claims about the hardware. As far as we can tell, it will be the most powerful console ever created when it launches - unless somebody has an announcement I don't know about."

When it comes to the overall Xbox ecosystem, Stephen's continues: "I can't speak for Microsoft, but from our point of view they seem very committed to, you know, if you buy an Xbox One, whether it's a One, or an S, or a Scorpio you're going to buy a game and [be able to] play it on any of them. That seems very consistent with our experience of working on those platforms."

As for any problems or issues developing for vague specs, Stephen's said, "I think the biggest thing has been access to hardware, because they always come in hot. Just like everything."
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This shouldn't even be a story, of course it's the most powerful it'll be the newest. We aren't talking about Nintendo here :)
 
GordoSan said:
Dolby Vision HDR Ready for Many More 4K Devices Thanks To Software Version

Key part:
In reference to all the possible adoptions of the revamped Dolby Vision high dynamic range standard, Dolby has stated that:

“There are implementations that can run Dolby Vision in software, certainly in the console space but also in the TV SoC space. Specifics vary on a case-by-case basis depending on the hardware capability of the silicon in question, but we have development kits for various types of implementations, depending on the application: full hardware, hybrid of software and hardware or [and this is the crucial bit] full software.”

http://4k.com/news/dolby-vision-hdr-ready-for-many-more-4k-devices-thanks-to-software-version-18728/

Hate to say told ya so. No, wait. I don't.
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This doesn't prove what I said wrong.
XBOS and launch UHDBR Players will NOT get Dolby Vision.
 
JinCA said:
This shouldn't even be a story, of course it's the most powerful it'll be the newest. We aren't talking about Nintendo here :)
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I agree. PS4 Pro is presently "the most powerful console ever", Scorpio will take that crown, then PS5 will later take the crown, then Xbox Sagittarius will take the crown, and so on and so on. Hopefully Nintendo will have done away with friend codes by then.
 
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I think they'll go with "Xbox 4K."

As for PC games on Scorpio, I don't think that'll happen. What is more likely is being able to stream your PC games to your TV via Xbox.

The question for me is whether I would like 4K resolution for games, or 1080p with increased framerate. Honestly, I might go for the latter.
 
Dno69 said:
Yeah they shouldn't put out any positive Microsoft articles at all.
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Problem is that's not a new story, it's just common knowledge and just put up for clicks, a real story would be actual new news about the console. Yeah the quote from the dev is new if you disregard the fact that what he's saying has already been known for nearly a year but other than that it serves no purpose.
 
I still think they will go with Xbox Elite, with a similar aesthetic to the Elite controller.
 
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