PS5 News + Speculation
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I wish they'd hurry the F up and officially reveal the specs at the very least.
Not sure if this is official, but it’s close...for the gpu at least:
AMD Playstation 5 GPU Specs
AMD Oberon, 2233 MHz, 2304 Cores, 144 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 16384 MB GDDR6, 1750 MHz, 256 bit
AMD Playstation 5 GPU
GRAPHICS PROCESSOR Navi 10
CORES 2304
TMUS144
ROPS 64
MEMORY SIZE 8 GB
MEMORY TYPE GDDR6
BUS WIDTH 256 bit
This product is not released yet.
Data on this page may change in the future.
Recommended Gaming Resolutions:
- 640x480
- 1280x720
- 1366x768
- 1600x900
- 1920x1080
- 2560x1440
- 3840x2160
Being a igp card, the AMD Playstation 5 GPU does not require any additional power connector, its power draw is rated at 150 W maximum. This device has no display connectivity, as it is not designed to have monitors connected to it.
Graphics Processor
GPU NameNavi 10
Architecture
RDNA 1.0
FoundryTSMCProcess Size7nm
Transistors10,300 million
Die Size251 mm²
Mobile Graphics
Release Date2020GenerationConsole GPU
(Sony) ProductionUnreleasedBus InterfaceIGP
Performance estimated based on architecture, shader count and clocks.
Clock Speeds
GPU Clock2000 MHzMemory Clock1750 MHz
14000 MHz effective
Memory
Memory Size8 GBMemory TypeGDDR6Memory Bus256 bitBandwidth448.0 GB/s
Render Config
Shading Units2304TMUs144ROPs64Compute Units36
Theoretical Performance
Pixel Rate128.0 GPixel/sTexture Rate288.0 GTexel/sFP16 (half) performance18.43 TFLOPS (2:1)FP32 (float) performance9.216 TFLOPSFP64 (double) performance576.0 GFLOPS (1:16)
Board Design
Slot WidthIGPTDP150 WOutputsNo outputsPower ConnectorsNone
Graphics Features
DirectX12.0 (12_1)OpenGL4.6OpenCL2.0Vulkan1.1.125Shader Model6.4
Navi 10 GPU Notes
| Architecture Codename: Navi Codename: Fighter Old Codename: Bermuda CLRX Version: GCN 1.5.0 Graphics/Compute: GFX10 (gfx1010) Display Core Next: 2.0 Video Core Next: 2.0 |
A 9.2TF PS5 with all generations BC for $399.
Can't be matched by the competition (well we don't know what Nintendo has)
Can't be matched by the competition (well we don't know what Nintendo has)
$399.99 would be hard to beat. But what if the XSX is 449.99? A $50 difference between the consoles would make purchasing decisions awfully interesting come holiday time*.
*Not for me. I think I'm sitting the launches out this time around unless both launch with killer lineups and/or features.
*Not for me. I think I'm sitting the launches out this time around unless both launch with killer lineups and/or features.
MS would have to be more powerful and priced the same/close like you stated.
Plus have a strong pack in game.
Plus have a strong pack in game.
Phil won’t be beat on power or performance. Says they made that mistake this gen. He can only do that by having 2 skus or by matching the PS5 pricing with the Series X.
MS has an uphill battle and packing in Halo isn't going to make anyone jump from PlayStation to XSX,. The hardcore xbox owners are already going to be the ones that upgrade first and they are the ones most likely to be interested in Halo so they'd be buying both the console and game separately or buying the console and continuing their GP membership anyway.
Digital purchases becoming a big thing and backwards compatibility on next gen machines will keep most people from jumping ship one way or the other. Power and price are going to be a part of it as they always are but you also can't overstate how important exclusives are and MS in the last gen has really dropped the ball there, yeah they've bought a bunch of low to mid range studios as well as one AAA studio but we won't know how well those acquisitions have paid off for a while.
If Sony is a little bit weaker but better on price that pretty much wipes out the power advantage, if Sony and MS are pretty much the same when it comes to power and price that's a loss for MS IMO. Xbox needs something to separate them from PlayStation and I don't really know what that would be considering they seem to be going after the same demographics.
I don't think MS will ever be number 1 in the console market, they have too many things going against them and at their best they've only matched Sony at their worst and that was with a year head start, Xbox just doesn't have the global appeal that PlayStation does. That doesn't mean they can't do very well and make a lot of money in the console market but I just don't think they'll ever take first place based on how they've done during the last three generations.
Digital purchases becoming a big thing and backwards compatibility on next gen machines will keep most people from jumping ship one way or the other. Power and price are going to be a part of it as they always are but you also can't overstate how important exclusives are and MS in the last gen has really dropped the ball there, yeah they've bought a bunch of low to mid range studios as well as one AAA studio but we won't know how well those acquisitions have paid off for a while.
If Sony is a little bit weaker but better on price that pretty much wipes out the power advantage, if Sony and MS are pretty much the same when it comes to power and price that's a loss for MS IMO. Xbox needs something to separate them from PlayStation and I don't really know what that would be considering they seem to be going after the same demographics.
I don't think MS will ever be number 1 in the console market, they have too many things going against them and at their best they've only matched Sony at their worst and that was with a year head start, Xbox just doesn't have the global appeal that PlayStation does. That doesn't mean they can't do very well and make a lot of money in the console market but I just don't think they'll ever take first place based on how they've done during the last three generations.
Hell, as a fan of Xbox I hope they make a lot of money and keep finishing a little behind Sony because MS when they are behind and engaged (e.g., not in Mattrick tvland), they push hard and give great value. Just for example, back compat was something that Laydon et al were saying didn't matter, but now that MS has brought it into the mainstream this gen, Sony has had to adjust. When all three console makers are strong and engaged, everyone wins.
Back compat likely would have been a priority for both with digital sales being what they are, it's a perfect way to try to cement people into their ecosystems and keep them from flipping to the other side but I get what you are saying. MS isn't the first company to do BC though so I wouldn't say they brought it to the mainstream, the PS4 was the first sony console to launch without it and if the PS3 and PS4 weren't so wildly different I'm not sure it wouldn't have been a part of it, of course execs will downplay it and to be honest most people didn't use that feature very often in the past.
Personally I really have no interest in playing any games from the PS1 and PS2 era and I'd rather have remade or remastered versions of the PS3 games I liked than trying to play sub 720p games upscaled on my 4K tv. Most of the BC games on the One X look like s*** unless the got that special 4K love like Witcher 2 and RDR, the witcher 2 especially looked like garbage before they worked their magic on it, it was a blurry mess but credit to MS for working on trying to make some of the games look better.
If they matched them in price.
Were significantly more powerful.(9.2 vs 12)
Included Halo.
Yes that would change this whole battle and MS would finally become the market leader.
They aren't aggressive enough so this ain't happening and hence they have no chance of being the market leader.
Yes they can afford to do this.
Man, I hope they don't slap some afterthought solution. Playing a game like Control is kinda mesmerizing with RT. I can't stop looking at the shadows and reflections. I pop in and out of photomode constantly. Everything just looks so cohesive.
They won't match the price. I honestly don't know if they care about the number one spot (pretty much impossible on a world stage). I think they care about profitability, growing, and maintaining user base. If they can offer a tiered suite of products they can afford to offer the hardcore that premium experience.
I'm not sure if makes sense to offer multiple SKUs so close in spec, tbh. Maybe a 6 and 12, but 9? I don't think so. They may have been planning to drop a 12 TF pro in a couple years instead of in tandem.
Honestly, if the l walls are accurate, I expect Sony to drop in some last minute spec bumps first.
The whole lets not care about the number 1 spot narrative has got them in 3rd place 2 of the 3 generations.
They need to go for the jugular.
They will never be the market leader, Halo doesn't appeal to many who aren't Xbox fans and for the few that that don't want a console they'll be able to get it on PC as well so that's a non issue. Xbox just doesn't have the global appeal PlayStation does and based on the last three generations it isn't likely to change next gen.
Halo is a huge franchise that does appeal to a wide market.
I stand by what I been saying aggressive or bust.
It makes sense for Microsoft to do this NOT Sony. Sony is the market leader and has the momentum going into next gen.
Even if the PS5 is 8 teraflops vs 12 on the Xbox XS, Sony knows people are going to buy the system.
Matching your rival in a power game when it isn't needed is silly ESPECIALLY when you are leading and have the better 1st party offerings.
Plus Sony themselves said they want to make the transition from PS4 to PS5 as simple as possible. This move would be anything but that.
Reeks of pastebin fabrication. Not based in any legitimate reasons as to why this would be a good move for Sony.
You've been downplaying Halo's popularity for years lol. It's Xbox's biggest exclusive but it's sales have been dropping game to game for a while and again most people who are halo fans already have xbox consoles that's not going to bring anyone new in.
Halo appeals to gamers in NA and UK. That is it. Outside of those regions and part of Australia it is virtually a non entity.
Yeah and that's their problem, they can't be the market leader if they don't expand their appeal, PS3 was between 15 and 20 million behind the 360 in North America but they were able to make it up around the world and ended up selling 3 million more consoles globally by the time the gen ended. This gen PS4 has outsold X1 by about 5 million in North America but their dominance around the world has led them to more than a 2-1 sales advantage. MS can still be successful and I want them to be making consoles to keep Sony aggressive but I don't see how MS will ever be the market leader.
Yes and yes. If there were a PS5 Pro, there would have been SOMEONE leaked by now. At least something about it’s existence.
$399 is a sweet spot, and it will be a great machine for that price. I’m still sticking with what I’ve heard, which is they are trying to squeeze everything they can out of what they have. From what I’ve heard recently, it sounds very similar to the PS4 Pro in design, which should simplify everything. I’ve also heard that their insistence on BC is a major reason for this design choice, and that is also a reason they couldn’t/didn’t shoot for a stronger machine. And the other idea is they planned on launching last year, but waited so they could release it at $399. So it’s really an ‘older’ design. None of this is confirmed, but it seems to fit.
Out of the 3 companies, MS had to take this approach if they want new consumers. Lure the hardcore with a beast, and go for the causal Fortnite players with a cheaper solution. If they match Sony exactly, I doubt there would be much growth.
They are going for the throat next-gen. Sony and Nintendo will still ‘win’, and we’ll have great games from all of them. But if they keep up this aggressive approach, I bet that by the end of the next gen they will have a significantly greater market share than what they have now.
Sure. Just give me a reliable one, with leaked specs. Pastebin is bullsh*t. And nothing from ‘someone told me.’
Digital Foundry, data miners, or any tech site will do.