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The "8K support" is probably the equivalent of 1080p support on the PS3/Xbox 360. Few and far between in game support.
 
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The "8K support" is probably the equivalent of 1080p support on the PS3/Xbox 360. Few and far between in game support.

Agreed completely, and that goes for XSX as well. Just marketing crap, although a few years in they will probably squeeze out a few 8k/30 games.
 
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Agreed completely, and that goes for XSX as well. Just marketing crap, although a few years in they will probably squeeze out a few 8k/30 games.

Yeah, if a 2080 TI can't reliably push out 4K 60 ultra on some new games and that thing costs well over a grand, we're not going to see tech in consoles coming out in the next year that can push out 8k on anything remotely close to that level. Which is fine, because Uno in 8K checks a box that I don't need checked.
 
IF true, that would make it 9.2 TF. Not sure how accurate this ‘source’ is, but it’s another one for the 9-10 range.



 
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PlayStation 5 May Not Be Be Using AMD Hardware For Ray Tracing – Rumor
Francesco De Meo4 hours ago
PlayStation 5

The PlayStation 5, like the Xbox One Series X, will be powered by AMD's technology, but it seems like the hardware solution for ray tracing will not be coming from the company, according to a recent leak.
Komachi Ensaka, a well-known leaker, recently posted some new findings for chips codenamed Sparkman, Arden, Oberon, and Ariel. The first two are rumored to be related to the Xbox Series X, while the latter are rumored to be related to the PlayStation 5, as reported a while back.
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X Tested at 140W ECO Mode, Still Wrecks the 165W, Intel Core i9-10980XE CPU
The new findings are very interesting as Sparkman and Arden have ray tracing and variable rate shading mentioned, while Oberon and Ariel don't. If they are indeed related to the PlayStation 5 console, this means that Sony will not be using AMD technology for ray tracing and variable rate shading.

Both the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X have yet to be revealed in full, but it is being rumored that they are very close in power. In a recent report, it's revealed that Sony's next-gen console is ahead in terms of performance, but the gap is expected to be closed before release.
Right now, game performance is better on PS5. I believe that is probably because PS5 development hardware and software are in a more advanced state. I fully expect Scarlett to close that gap once they ship more mature dev kits and software.
It must be said, since software, not hardware, is a traditional Microsoft area of expertise, it's very possible that they could ultimately deliver more advanced DirectX development software, in the end, allowing games to run better on Scarlett even if the hardware is less capable.
PlayStation 5 launches next year worldwide. We will keep you updated on it as soon as more details come in on the matter, so stay tuned for all the latest news.
 
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Why do I get the feeling that Sony is going to surprise us with a PS5 Pro announcement at E3?
I thought about this earlier, too. The problem for this solution is, if they do that and PS5 Pro is over a year out or even no release date given, they might as well hand over the reigns to Xbox. Nobody wants to hear that they should just wait, and it would be a very bad sales tactic for the current next-gen PS5 release, imo.
 
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Why do I get the feeling that Sony is going to surprise us with a PS5 Pro announcement at E3?

It’s always a possibility, and would explain the massive difference in ‘leaked’ specs.

But to have not a single real rumor about this makes me doubt it.
 
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Sounds like most of this info is old or fake, there have been too many people claiming that not only was the PS5 more powerful than the XSX but it was also going to be more powerful than Stadia which is 10+TF. As far as the RT Cerny said "there is ray tracing acceleration in the GPU hardware" that's not an ambiguous statement, that's not "oh it's a shader thing" it's hardware accelerated RT but some people keep trying to make it out to be him leaving the door open for something else. Why anyone would want to believe a guy who's twitter handle has the name xbox in it when it comes to info regarding the PS5 is a mystery to me lol.

BTW Colton Eastwood is a moron, the guy doesn't have any sources when it comes to consoles he just posts what he sees on twitter as news, talks about that info as if it is a fact and then gets mad and blames the people he copied the info from when it's wrong.
 
Why anyone would want to believe a guy who's twitter handle has the name xbox in it when it comes to info regarding the PS5 is a mystery to me lol.

Hell, you don't even want to believe someone who is literally the Head of Xbox when taking about Xbox game sales, so putting any stock in any of these early rumors would be inconsistent. Of course, you do seem to believe the ones suggesting PS5 is more powerful, but opinions are like a******s - they're easy to find on the internet. ;)
 
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As far as the RT Cerny said "there is ray tracing acceleration in the GPU hardware"

You don't believe Phil, but you believe Cerny. :laugh::laugh:


Cerny on PS4 Pro: "In other words, at full floats, we have 4.2 teraflops. With half-floats, it's now double that, which is to say, 8.4 teraflops in 16-bit computation. This has the potential to radically increase performance."

Secret sauce never happened.

:laugh::laugh:
 
Hell, you don't even want to believe someone who is literally the Head of Xbox when taking about Xbox game sales, so putting any stock in any of these early rumors would be inconsistent. Of course, you do seem to believe the ones suggesting PS5 is more powerful, but opinions are like a******s - they're easy to find on the internet. ;)

No I don't believe Spencer on his claim about Gears 5 and I've pointed out several logical reasons as to why :p

When it comes to this stuff it's all people pulling s*** out of their ass until we get something official from Sony and MS, hell MS won't even confirm if Spencer was talking 12TF RDNA or just twice the power of the One X (which is what he actually said and would still be a huge jump) when DF asked them about it. Good news for the people who are sure it's 12TF RDNA is that Klee at resetera who seems to be trusted there (former gaming journalist) said it was 12TF RDNA, he also says the PS5 is still more powerful. Once again I doubt there will be much difference at all between them, regardless of who ends up technically being more powerful it's probably not going to show up on screen.
 
Hell, you don't even want to believe someone who is literally the Head of Xbox when taking about Xbox game sales, so putting any stock in any of these early rumors would be inconsistent. Of course, you do seem to believe the ones suggesting PS5 is more powerful, but opinions are like a******s - they're easy to find on the internet. ;)
And the 9-10 TF rumors have hard evidence to back them up. The one today is from a data miner who has been accurate in the past.

All the ‘super strong’ PS rumors are just from guys who ‘heard something’ or ‘know someone.’

Now that stuff could be old, and maybe there are 2 SKUs. But so far there is no real hard evidence to prove either of those things.
 
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You don't believe Phil, but you believe Cerny. :laugh::laugh:


Cerny on PS4 Pro: "In other words, at full floats, we have 4.2 teraflops. With half-floats, it's now double that, which is to say, 8.4 teraflops in 16-bit computation. This has the potential to radically increase performance."

Secret sauce never happened.

:laugh::laugh:
It did in some DICE Frost engine games but X still had the edge.
 
And the 9-10 TF rumors have hard evidence to back them up. The one today is from a data miner who has been accurate in the past.

All the ‘super strong’ PS rumors are just from guys who ‘heard something’ or ‘know someone.’

Now that stuff could be old, and maybe there are 2 SKUs. But so far there is no real hard evidence to prove either of those things.

It's not hard evidence, we'll see though it could be true but any "info" that they are talking about right now seems to be from June or July.
 


Why does anyone care what he thinks though? he has no idea what Sony is doing and now people are going on message boards quoting him as if he's some reliable source (Not you Rollins people are using him on resetera to back up opinions) he doesn't even work at MS anymore lol.
 
Why does anyone care what he thinks though? he has no idea what Sony is doing and now people are going on message boards quoting him as if he's some reliable source (Not you Rollins people are using him on resetera to back up opinions) he doesn't even work at MS anymore lol.
I hear you, but he was still in the industry a long time, and I’m sure still has contacts. Plus if you’re talking speculation, he’s got far more knowledge than any of us on the details about making a system.

Based off tech and costs, he’s taking a very educated guess. If Sony is shooting For $399, that’s his guess at the best they could do from a cost perspective. So while he’s not a Sony employee, he’s got more insight than any of us.

It’s like if I designed cars for years for Ford, then changed jobs. If I hear Toyota is trying to make a family car that costs around 25k, I could probably take a pretty good stab at what could be expected to be in it for that money.
 
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I hear you, but he was still in the industry a long time, and I’m sure still has contacts. Plus if you’re talking speculation, he’s got far more knowledge than any of us on the details about making a system.

Based off tech and costs, he’s taking a very educated guess. If Sony is shooting For $399, that’s his guess at the best they could do from a cost perspective. So while he’s not a Sony employee, he’s got more insight than any of us.

It’s like if I designed cars for years for Ford, then changed jobs. If I hear Toyota is trying to make a family car that costs around 25k, I could probably take a pretty good stab at what could be expected to be in it for that money.

Yeah but he's also making the assumption that they are going for that price point etc. We don't know what it will be, it could be 9.2 it could be 12.8 or anywhere in-between. I do think it's funny how hysterical some people on resetera are about these things when we simply don't know. That guy Klee who has supposedly confirmed his sources with their mods says the PS5 is slightly more powerful but that both consoles are so close it doesn't matter and that both are going to look pretty much the same and the world is fine. Now all of the sudden some people start talking about old info that's been around for something like 6 months and the sky is falling lol.
 
Why does anyone care what he thinks though? he has no idea what Sony is doing and now people are going on message boards quoting him as if he's some reliable source (Not you Rollins people are using him on resetera to back up opinions) he doesn't even work at MS anymore lol.

he’s at blizzard now, no? If so he may have some insight or will soon once they get def kits to port diablo 4
 
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