2019 Xbox E3 Conference Discussion Thread

Grade Microsoft's 2019 Xbox E3 Conference


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So, MS went with the approach with less talk and more games and people are still upset.

People wanted something that they want but instead they get what the developers were making.

All those fools got suckered into the PS4 single player crap which is not worth (IMHO) $60 for a one time ride. Asking MS to make it.

Every game will be part of xbox live because that was how it was from day one.

It will continue to be that way.

Yeah all those fools liking those amazing PS4 single player games. Bunch of clowns!

I don't know why you are still going on about single player games. Microsoft is going to put out single player games next gen. They have to diversify their game pass offerings and they have to compete with Sony.
 
I just watched the conference and I was disappointed. Wtf was that Halo trailer?

I've learned nothing about Gears 5 big world/ changes or Halo Infinite.

Thank god for Double Fine and Cyber Punk 2077.

I'm going to bed.
 
All was fine. Obviously there are a lot of games that will roll into Scarlet as well
 
I just watched the conference and I was disappointed. Wtf was that Halo trailer?

I've learned nothing about Gears 5 big world/ changes or Halo Infinite.

Thank god for Double Fine and Cyber Punk 2077.

I'm going to bed.
I loved the infinite trailer. Hopefully we get more during the week.
 
So are they just acting like 4 and 5 didn’t happen?
Doubt it. I'm reading the book that takes place right after 5 and it's very much a thing(really enjoying it too) . That may be a bit of a metaphorical nod that they get it though. I mean hell... That's halo 3 armor. The music was also a mix of CE, Halo 3, and the new 4/5 style.

It really shows how good their characterization is. I already felt a connection to the pilot. Good stuff.
 
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Always nice when they say you can pre-order something and you go to the store and you can't.
 
Always nice when they say you can pre-order something and you go to the store and you can't.


Yee, for some reason at my Best Buy I can only preorder the regular variants of games in store and the se or ce online, because it’s a different sku *signs bs in asl*
 
Yeah all those fools liking those amazing PS4 single player games. Bunch of clowns!

I don't know why you are still going on about single player games. Microsoft is going to put out single player games next gen. They have to diversify their game pass offerings and they have to compete with Sony.

Let's see what MS home games with have just single player only.
 
Looks like my 7/10 for the conference is the high end. Conference getting skewered right now. Kind of Funny spent 60 minutes trashing the entire show. Didn’t like anything outside of a handful of 3rd party games. At least one person on Giant Bomb said Sony’s demo of Death Stranding beat Microsoft’s entire conference. Even Xbox Youtubers trashing it. Some are getting really impatient with Phil Spencer.

I’ll just keep saying I think the foundation for the brand is better than it’s been since early 360 days. Their problem is messaging, promotion and marketing. Whoever made the decisions for this show were tone deaf. Doesn’t mean the product is bad. Greenberg and whoever else is in charge needs to be moved. A lot of budget but his people blow it on Escape Rooms, Lego cars and more Escape rooms. Still not in touch with gamers. Everything related to Gears at this show demonstrated everything wrong with Xbox messaging, marketing and focus this entire gen.

Side note...IGN has Gears multiplayer gameplay. Stuff there was more interesting than the conference. New game mode sounds really damned good and will have legs. While I would’ve preferred campaign info, what IGN had is better than what the press conference got.

Heard positive impressions of Bleeding Edge. I signed up for the beta. Think this one will be better received once people play it.

Poor reactions to Battletoads behind the scenes. I kind of liked what I saw but it’s not getting good reception from those that have seen more.

Halo is my favorite IP. I thought I got more out of last year than this one. Nothing impressive demoed about the engine. No idea what gameplay direction they’re going in.

Lot of people including myself confused about what we learned with Xcloud. More confusing than clarifying.

Scoring this show is so difficult because it’s such a mixed bag. Wish I could say they were just saving for next year but the Bleeding Edge, Gears and Xcloud are this year...so more than anything, just shows they still cannot connect to consumers.
 
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Looks like my 7/10 for the conference is the high end. Conference getting skewered right now. Kind of Funny spent 60 minutes trashing the entire show. Didn’t like anything outside of a handful of 3rd party games. At least one person on Giant Bomb said Sony’s demo of Death Stranding beat Microsoft’s entire conference. Even Xbox Youtubers trashing it. Some are getting really impatient with Phil Spencer.

I’ll just keep saying I think the foundation for the brand is better than it’s been since early 360 days. Their problem is messaging, promotion and marketing. Whoever made the decisions for this show were tone deaf. Doesn’t mean the product is bad. Greenberg and whoever else is in charge needs to be moved. A lot of budget but his people blow it on Escape Rooms, Lego cars and more Escape rooms. Still not in touch with gamers. Everything related to Gears at this show demonstrated everything wrong with Xbox messaging, marketing and focus this entire gen.

Side note...IGN has Gears multiplayer gameplay. Stuff there was more interesting than the conference. New game mode sounds really damned good and will have legs. While I would’ve preferred campaign info, what IGN had is better than what the press conference got.

Heard positive impressions of Bleeding Edge. I signed up for the beta. Think this one will be better received once people play it.

Poor reactions to Battletoads behind the scenes. I kind of liked what I saw but it’s not getting good reception from those that have seen more.

Halo is my favorite IP. I thought I got more out of last year than this one. Nothing impressive demoed about the engine. No idea what gameplay direction they’re going in.

Lot of people including myself confused about what we learned with Xcloud. More confusing than clarifying.

Scoring this show is so difficult because it’s such a mixed bag. Wish I could say they were just saving for next year but the Bleeding Edge, Gears and Xcloud are this year...so more than anything, just shows they still cannot connect to consumers.
Xcloud? We learnt that you can stream stuff either via the cloud or by turning your X1 into a server. So much info.

Funnything, I think people think this will be different to stadia, but it isn't likely.
 
I'm glad I sold my X1 early this year. Not 1 single thing of interest was shown. What they've done to Forza Horizon is just awful.
 
Ori stood out to me more than anything else, sadly that's a 2020 game but I'm going to buy that day one. A lot of stuff coming next year, I wonder if any of them will get patches with next gen upgrades for the games that release before the next gen consoles launch or if publishers will just put out straight up Scarlet/PS5 versions?
 
Looks like my 7/10 for the conference is the high end. Conference getting skewered right now. Kind of Funny spent 60 minutes trashing the entire show. Didn’t like anything outside of a handful of 3rd party games. At least one person on Giant Bomb said Sony’s demo of Death Stranding beat Microsoft’s entire conference. Even Xbox Youtubers trashing it. Some are getting really impatient with Phil Spencer.

I’ll just keep saying I think the foundation for the brand is better than it’s been since early 360 days. Their problem is messaging, promotion and marketing. Whoever made the decisions for this show were tone deaf. Doesn’t mean the product is bad. Greenberg and whoever else is in charge needs to be moved. A lot of budget but his people blow it on Escape Rooms, Lego cars and more Escape rooms. Still not in touch with gamers. Everything related to Gears at this show demonstrated everything wrong with Xbox messaging, marketing and focus this entire gen.

Side note...IGN has Gears multiplayer gameplay. Stuff there was more interesting than the conference. New game mode sounds really damned good and will have legs. While I would’ve preferred campaign info, what IGN had is better than what the press conference got.

Heard positive impressions of Bleeding Edge. I signed up for the beta. Think this one will be better received once people play it.

Poor reactions to Battletoads behind the scenes. I kind of liked what I saw but it’s not getting good reception from those that have seen more.

Halo is my favorite IP. I thought I got more out of last year than this one. Nothing impressive demoed about the engine. No idea what gameplay direction they’re going in.

Lot of people including myself confused about what we learned with Xcloud. More confusing than clarifying.

Scoring this show is so difficult because it’s such a mixed bag. Wish I could say they were just saving for next year but the Bleeding Edge, Gears and Xcloud are this year...so more than anything, just shows they still cannot connect to consumers.

This show really wasn't any different than what MS has been doing the last few years, they get a ton of 3rd party trailers and cram everything into one show and by the end you remember almost nothing. This year did seem to have fewer trailers with any actual gameplay in them though and that's a trend that needs to stop. I didn't expect much this year, I said in another thread that I expected this year to be more of the same and that next year would be the one to watch because we'll have new hardware to show off. It's kind of hard to expect great things when the focus behind the scenes is likely moving to next gen already. They shouldn't have hyped this as much as they did though, they should know fans take things too literally.
 
Let's see what MS home games with have just single player only.

They need to, single player with a co-op option or an added on MP is fine but pouring more money into MP games and ignoring SP isn't going to grow their audience it'll just be more of the same. With everything coming out day one on GP now the focus on sales shouldn't be as important anyway, I mean sales will always matter but if MP are keeping Xbox fans subscribed SP will help bring new people in.
 
This show really wasn't any different than what MS has been doing the last few years, they get a ton of 3rd party trailers and cram everything into one show and by the end you remember almost nothing. This year did seem to have fewer trailers with any actual gameplay in them though and that's a trend that needs to stop. I didn't expect much this year, I said in another thread that I expected this year to be more of the same and that next year would be the one to watch because we'll have new hardware to show off. It's kind of hard to expect great things when the focus behind the scenes is likely moving to next gen already. They shouldn't have hyped this as much as they did though, they should know fans take things too literally.
I don't agree.

They have flag ship title in Gears 5. A game they had plenty of time to evolve and stamp their own creativity on and to win back players they lost with the stale copy & pasted Gears 4.

They have a new Ip.
They had a new studio purchase with a game ready to go.
They have Xcloud.

This could have been a decent conference, but no. We learn nothing about Xcloud, Gears doesn't have gameplay, Bleeding Edge jgets a short trailer, Psychnauts gets a short trailer.

Remember when we used to get live demos? Gears 5 & Bleeding Edge should have had significant live demos.
 
I don't agree.

They have flag ship title in Gears 5. A game they had plenty of time to evolve and stamp their own creativity on and to win back players they lost with the stale copy & pasted Gears 4.

They have a new Ip.
They had a new studio purchase with a game ready to go.
They have Xcloud.

This could have been a decent conference, but no. We learn nothing about Xcloud, Gears doesn't have gameplay, Bleeding Edge jgets a short trailer, Psychnauts gets a short trailer.

Remember when we used to get live demos? Gears 5 & Bleeding Edge should have had significant live demos.

Oh I'm with you on live demos that's something that MS conferences have been missing more and more each year, they don't all have to be live demos of course but they should be doing them for all AAA 1st party games, especially if they are launching this year. Their E3 showings have become more about over compensating with a lot of game announcements instead of actually showing games off in a meaningful way, I hope they change that next year.

There is no excuse for not having a Gears single player demo unless it's just not ready to show yet which would then be cause for concern. I don't really think Bleeding Edge got many people excited so a demo couldn't have hurt, then again maybe it's not ready to show yet either. Psychonauts was never a huge seller, I doubt most people watching even know anything about the first one other than what the main character looked like.
 
I enjoyed it :txbconfused:

I think people go into these things overhyped. This is the end of a generation folks, remember, you-know-who didn't even show up.

I hate to tell people, but not everyone in the Xbox fan world loves Gears as much. E3 is about hype, not gameplay. Just google it and you'll find tons of videos from people playing at E3. They aren't "hiding" anything. :laugh:

I would have loved to see specific games (Forza? Fable?), but my gosh, that was an hour and 45 minutes of games. Plus an Elite controller and a brand new console?
 
I would have loved to see specific games (Forza? Fable?), but my gosh, that was an hour and 45 minutes of games. Plus an Elite controller and a brand new console?
They needed to show 3 minutes of games and 1:42 of Keanu. (can't find sarcasm font on my phone right now)
 
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I enjoyed it :txbconfused:

I think people go into these things overhyped. This is the end of a generation folks, remember, you-know-who didn't even show up.

I hate to tell people, but not everyone in the Xbox fan world loves Gears as much. E3 is about hype, not gameplay. Just google it and you'll find tons of videos from people playing at E3. They aren't "hiding" anything. :laugh:

I would have loved to see specific games (Forza? Fable?), but my gosh, that was an hour and 45 minutes of games. Plus an Elite controller and a brand new console?
Doesn't matter if all love Gears or not..it is the biggest game they have this year.

Gameplay generates hype. The days of unrepresentive trailers and CGI trailers bringing hype died a long time ago.

Sony doesn't need to show up, MS is doing all the work for them.
 
Just finished watching it. I skimmed through it so as not to waste time with stuff that didn't interest me, so I may have missed something, but I came away pretty underwhelmed, except for Keanu's appearance. That was very cool; I like that guy.

Not getting any Fable footage was a letdown. The Ninja Theory game is online melee, so it doesn't suit me. The Double Fine acquisition was nice -- and I laughed at Tim's joke about being a team player -- but their games have never really done it for me, so that's not a big factor. Ori looked nice, but again, not my cup of tea. The talk about cloud streaming doesn't do anything for me. The talk about the new console was nice but I don't think anything new was announced (mention of it being 4x as powerful as the X?).

I mean, it wasn't bad, there were plenty of games on display, and I appreciate the direction MS is moving in getting a robust set of game studios, but the conference itself didn't show me much that got me excited. I'd say Keanu was the highlight. He came off really well, unlike most celebrities hauled on to the E3 stage. I didn't watch the actual Cyberpunk trailer as I'd rather just play the game without knowing a lot in advance.
 
Just finished watching it. I skimmed through it so as not to waste time with stuff that didn't interest me, so I may have missed something, but I came away pretty underwhelmed, except for Keanu's appearance. That was very cool; I like that guy.

Not getting any Fable footage was a letdown. The Ninja Theory game is online melee, so it doesn't suit me. The Double Fine acquisition was nice -- and I laughed at Tim's joke about being a team player -- but their games have never really done it for me, so that's not a big factor. Ori looked nice, but again, not my cup of tea. The talk about cloud streaming doesn't do anything for me. The talk about the new console was nice but I don't think anything new was announced (mention of it being 4x as powerful as the X?).

I mean, it wasn't bad, there were plenty of games on display, and I appreciate the direction MS is moving in getting a robust set of game studios, but the conference itself didn't show me much that got me excited. I'd say Keanu was the highlight. He came off really well, unlike most celebrities hauled on to the E3 stage. I didn't watch the actual Cyberpunk trailer as I'd rather just play the game without knowing a lot in advance.
Is it online melee...one of them has a minigun.