Are gamers obsessed with resolution/fps? (Motherboard article)

So gamers are whiners or whatever else you want to label them, just because they want games and the hardware to advance along with TVs they run on? Lol... The reason this wasn't an issue before is because up until last gen it wasn't much of an issue. Games ran at the resolution the most common TVs ran at. Now TV resolution is progressing further at a faster rate, yet games and consoles are stuck playing catch up.

PC? They've been running at whatever resolution the monitors can support forever and that won't change.
Thank goodness for PC's then. ;)
 
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60 fps is much more important then 1080p
Neither are important if the game sucks, and if what we wind up with is just a shinier $60 turd than we had last generation. Good story, good graphics, good gameplay are the features that add up to a great gaming experience. If the worthy rival is a superior machine, then so be it. It was touted as such, last gen, and I never really gave it much thought, nor do I intend to, now.
 
Games ran at the resolution the most common TVs ran at. Now TV resolution is progressing further at a faster rate, yet games and consoles are stuck playing catch up.

Which is why 720p bothers me now. It was fine when 360 games were 720p...because that was standard back then. 720p is no longer standard, and hasn't been for years, 720p now in a next gen system is bogus.
 
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Which is why 720p bothers me now. It was fine when 360 games were 720p...because that was standard back then. 720p is no longer standard, and hasn't been for years, 720p now in a next gen system is bogus.
exactly. Even youtube can run 720 p now, & who knows, they may go 1080p in the near future!
Anyone who have not already have a full HD TV will get in in the next couple of years. Why you are used to HD, looking at something that runs 720p will be very obvious.

Point being, while still relatively ok now, 720p are not future proof.
 
it's a sad state of affairs today, and for this industry, that so many people who call themselves "gamers" worry about such trivial issues as number of pixels on a screen and framerate.

Of the 2 framerate is obviously the most *important* aspect because it affects how the game plays... but otherwise....
 
it's a sad state of affairs today, and for this industry, that so many people who call themselves "gamers" worry about such trivial issues as number of pixels on a screen and framerate.

Of the 2 framerate is obviously the most *important* aspect because it affects how the game plays... but otherwise....


It is just something to discuss. It isn't like gamers aren't going out buying games. even last gen games with similar issues still sold very well. Gamers play games and all this discussion over res and FPS doesn't seem to impact that. Its not like gamers have only just started discussing the negatives of games, we have always done it. Only now it takes place with potentially millions of gamers and not just half a dozen buddies.
 
it's a sad state of affairs today, and for this industry, that so many people who call themselves "gamers" worry about such trivial issues as number of pixels on a screen and framerate.

Of the 2 framerate is obviously the most *important* aspect because it affects how the game plays... but otherwise....

How a game looks is part of enjoying gaming.

Higher resolution looks better.. high framerate looks and plays better, and it takes more powerful hardware to achieve those things.

In the end, gameplay is king.. and the difference may not bother some people.. hell, as long as it's only resolution, for some people's TV sets it really wouldn't even matter.

But if I have a choice, and the gameplay is the same across the 2 platforms I own.. better graphics is going to play into that choice. It's just that simple.. and for people choosing platforms, considering gameplay is relatively the same.. it might make the platform choice for them.

To someone else, better or more fully supported voice and motion control might be a bigger deal, etc.

It is sad how huge of a deal people make and how dramatic they are.. but your post is almost equally dramatic, as it attempts to claim that resolution and framerate are "trivial".. they really aren't. Go play a 1x1 resolution game at 1 frame rate... you can't..

While obviously the "return on increase" is much lower once you reach a certain point.. it's still an increase. 1080p is more clear than 720p.. 60FPS plays better than 30FPS, etc.
 
Yup, there's way too much bitching about which console has better pixels and all that. FPS matters a whole lot more than resolution. So if the PS4 did 90 FPS and the Xbox One was locked at 30 FPS i might, just might have considered going with the PS4 over the Xbox One.

Back in the real world, the PS4 isn't anymore powerful than the Xbox One. What, because it has some better looking early gen multiplats it's a world-class powerhouse? Yeah, okay. This is what i'm seeing. Ryse and Forza 5 being graphics kings right now. Plus it's all about the games at the end of the day. If a game looks great but plays like trash i wouldn't care if it was CGI. I'd rather play on a Virtual Boy.
 
it's a sad state of affairs today, and for this industry, that so many people who call themselves "gamers" worry about such trivial issues as number of pixels on a screen and framerate.

Of the 2 framerate is obviously the most *important* aspect because it affects how the game plays... but otherwise....
Now now some "gamers" have cared since the ole days... The ole SNES has mode 7 and more colors vs the Genesis has more stuff on screen due to "blast processing" I being a "'gamer" have and always will care about the technical aspect of gaming and I am not alone with feeling these ways.
 
Now now some "gamers" have cared since the ole days... The ole SNES has mode 7 and more colors vs the Genesis has more stuff on screen due to "blast processing" I being a "'gamer" have and always will care about the technical aspect of gaming and I am not alone with feeling these ways.

It's sad!

I'm crying :(
 
Now now some "gamers" have cared since the ole days... The ole SNES has mode 7 and more colors vs the Genesis has more stuff on screen due to "blast processing" I being a "'gamer" have and always will care about the technical aspect of gaming and I am not alone with feeling these ways.

:laugh: Thats just really bad Engrish!

In other news...

Technical aspects are well and good but unless you're playing these games side-by-side, no one will see a difference and not one of the games with either lower resolutions on FPS will be offended. But I will say that X1 games are now appearing to come with the 1080p res. So I guess the only logical complaint now, has to be the FPS? I hate to say "typical" but...........its typical.:cool:
 

I agree with the article as well. If there are differences, they should be discussed. I think most of the people who say fps, resolution doesn't matter prefer the xbox and is a little unhappy that their preferred console is not performing up to par with the ps4 no matter how great or small the difference is. It might sound harsh but That's the truth of the matter it seems.
 
I agree with the article as well. If there are differences, they should be discussed. I think most of the people who say fps, resolution doesn't matter prefer the xbox and is a little unhappy that their preferred console is not performing up to par with the ps4 no matter how great or small the difference is. It might sound harsh but That's the truth of the matter it seems.
It would "seem" that way, wouldnt it?;)
 
I agree with the article as well. If there are differences, they should be discussed. I think most of the people who say fps, resolution doesn't matter prefer the xbox and is a little unhappy that their preferred console is not performing up to par with the ps4 no matter how great or small the difference is. It might sound harsh but That's the truth of the matter it seems.

unhappy? I am flabbergasted lol.

All those billions of dollars and the xbox one was the best they could do after 8 years.

I was ready for a f***ing flux capacitor in the new xbox after the first xbox and xbox 360.
 
I enjoy beautiful games that play well. Graphics and gameplay should go hand in hand. I shouldn't have to pick between the two. Especially when I'm spending hundreds of dollars on a system. So yes, resolution and fps is important and it should be just as important as gameplay. I want the best of both worlds and I think I am entitled to that.

I didn't spend 500 dollars for 720p when the 360 was already pretty much doing 720p.
 
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Oddly, the power difference isn't translating to game sales some reason. PS4 sold more hardware in Nov+Dec NPD, yet X1 sold more games.
 
Oddly, the power difference isn't translating to game sales some reason. PS4 sold more hardware in Nov+Dec NPD, yet X1 sold more games.

In the US, yeah xbox one sold more. Globally? Sony announced 9.7 million. Did you find a number for global software sales yet or are you just hoping that's the case.
 
There's a difference between criticizing and hating. No one is "hating" on the xbox one. Merely talking about the power difference is just discussion. Show me one post saying "I hate the Xbox one".


Discussing the truth is hating!
 
In the US, yeah xbox one sold more. Globally? Sony announced 9.7 million. Did you find a number for global software sales yet or are you just hoping that's the case.
I don't think MS has stated that yet globally. All they said right now is that NPD has US sales at a 2.9 games per console rate.

For PS4, Sony said 9.7M software for its 4.2M consoles sold. That's 2.3 games per.
 
I don't think MS has stated that yet globally. All they said right now is that NPD has US sales at a 2.9 games per console rate.

For PS4, Sony said 9.7M software for its 4.2M consoles sold. That's 2.3 games per.

And major Nelson made sure people knew that via his tweets, didn't he. Don't you think he would do the same if the global sales were really on par or higher than sony's global? Going by his track record, I'd say the probability is very high.
 
it's a sad state of affairs today, and for this industry, that so many people who call themselves "gamers" worry about such trivial issues as number of pixels on a screen and framerate.

Of the 2 framerate is obviously the most *important* aspect because it affects how the game plays... but otherwise....
I will ask you a simple question. You watch movies in HD (Say bluray) or standard (say DVD)? Why so?

Now, I do watch movies sometimes in DVD format, when the movie is old & HD is not available. The film matters more than resolution. But when I have the choice of HD, & standard, at same price, why would I wanted to watch in standard def?

games is the same, having higher resolution, better sound system etc are all parts of improving the game experience. Some care some don't. If you do not care, fine, Just because you don't, doesn't means other have to agree with you.

I do not care a lot about sound system, & d not invest in any sound system, but you will not see me go around telling people sound doesn't matter., & they are wasting their money because I can respect that it can matter to some people.
 
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Only when you don't like what the truth is ;)
Damn, I like your short & truthful answers. Direct to the point.

If you say anything negative about MS or xbox one, you are a Sony fanboy, SDF, not true gamer. Did I missed something.

To be honest, I would rather discuss about upcoming games, some cool stuff done with kinect, or MS finally launching in more nations. But lets face, it. There are so little information on any these. What have we heard new about Halo 5 or Quantum? Anyone heard when MS is going to release in Netherlands?


Truth is, I think many fans are either sad or angry (or both) with MS. When the specs are revealed, fans cried for MS to beef up the spec to make it comparable to PS4. Instead of getting our wish, MS brush off the performance parity, & all the big talks. We have our doubts, but we give them the benefit of the doubt.

But game release after releases, & the parity can clearly be seen in multiple titles, the rants & anger ( I am not talking about Sony fans boys) among long time fans is understandable.
 
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And major Nelson made sure people knew that via his tweets, didn't he. Don't you think he would do the same if the global sales were really on par or higher than sony's global? Going by his track record, I'd say the probability is very high.
Actually not Hyrb. MS was responding to Dec NPD. Why would they bring up global sales of consoles or games when Dec NPD is a US focused sales report?