Game Lineup Comparisons, v. 1.6

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de3d1 said:
They had plenty of time to do something, like make sure UC4(which was already well into development) wasn't delayed. Also, having said that, I'm thinking of the sony of old, where they have plenty of options to move things around.

Where have I dismissed a game that doesn't sell those numbers? Anything close to that is great and better than nothing standing alone. What game is better to have against halo, Until Dawn or UC4? Heck why not both? halo is a juggernaut, can't expect a console with a games focus and "for the players" to have one of those, that'd be too much to ask.
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And if not delaying it meant a rushed game or a game with less content what does that do for us?

If they put out a game that sold 2-3 million copies you would say "nobody bought it". Tell me were you upset with Microsoft for releasing nothing in the Spring? Sounds like a double standard.
 
Whoa. Did someone just list The Last Guardian as big budget exclusive?
 
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yankeessuck said:
And if not delaying it meant a rushed game or a game with less content what does that do for us?

If they put out a game that sold 2-3 million copies you would say "nobody bought it". Tell me were you upset with Microsoft for releasing nothing in the Spring? Sounds like a double standard.
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Why does it mean they had to rush it, maybe ND needed more support? If sony knew there was a chance they might not have anything to combat halo they should have stepped in. Where's No Man's Sky? That's an ambitious indie right? No where to be seen. I doubt UC4 only sells 3 million lol and that's not a terrible number, I've only said that about games that sold 1-2 million. Even then, anything is better than nothing.

Why would I be upset about MS not releasing anything in the beginning of the year? Its not like sony released their version of halo 5 then. My point was, like what we were discussing in the above paragraph, is sony has done nothing to ensure they have something to counter halo. Sure MS should have had more games in the beginning of the year, just like sony should have more now. That's not my point.
 
de3d1 said:
Why does it mean they had to rush it, maybe ND needed more support?
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Well we don't know do we?

Where's No Man's Sky?
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That is a Halo competitor? But indies don't even count?

Why would I be upset about MS not releasing anything in the beginning of the year? Its not like sony released their version of halo 5 then.
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If it isn't Halo why even try? Maybe Sony thinks like you.
 
yankeessuck said:
Well we don't know do we?



That is a Halo competitor? But indies don't even count?



If it isn't Halo why even try? Maybe Sony thinks like you.
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Obviously ND needed support-it was delayed. I thought No Man's Sky was some huge ambitious title? Galaxies bro, galaxies.

Like I said, anything is better than nothing.
 
de3d1 said:
Obviously ND needed support-it was delayed.
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And do we know that it could it been prevented without the benefit of hindsight?


I thought No Man's Sky was some huge ambitious title? Galaxies bro, galaxies.
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Sorry indies don't count. I don't make these rules.

Like I said, anything is better than nothing.
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So you are upset at Microsoft for taking the Spring off?
 
yankeessuck said:
And do we know that it could it been prevented without the benefit of hindsight?




Sorry indies don't count. I don't make these rules.



So you are upset at Microsoft for taking the Spring off?
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Would adding support for ND have hurt anything? I mean at one point ND projected a holiday release, shouldn't have been a crazy task to make sure what they projected happen. I'm mean, I'm not just saying UC, they have plenty of big games to push if they wanted, but imo they are on top of mountain, why do that?

Upset with MS? Nah, but they should have had their games more spread out more evenly ideally. I like fall/winter releases more personally, I have much less time spring/summer to game.
 
de3d1 said:
Would adding support for ND have hurt anything? I mean at one point ND projected a holiday release, shouldn't have been a crazy task to make sure what they projected happen. I'm mean, I'm not just saying UC, they have plenty of big games to push if they wanted, but imo they are on top of mountain, why do that?
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Holy assumptions Batman!
 
de3d1 said:
Would adding support for ND have hurt anything? I mean at one point ND projected a holiday release, shouldn't have been a crazy task to make sure what they projected happen. I'm mean, I'm not just saying UC, they have plenty of big games to push if they wanted, but imo they are on top of mountain, why do that?

Upset with MS? Nah, but they should have had their games more spread out more evenly ideally. I like fall/winter releases more personally, I have much less time spring/summer to game.
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These are question we can't answer as we don't work for ND. Maybe they just needed or wanted more time? And yeah if Sony was in a more desperate situation maybe the game would be out but maybe that wouldn't be a good thing
 
de3d1 said:
Obviously ND needed support-it was delayed. I thought No Man's Sky was some huge ambitious title? Galaxies bro, galaxies.

Like I said, anything is better than nothing.
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I'm still trying determine if there's a disconnect (if any) with UC4 delay till next year, and Sony not seeing a "need" to invest in first party titles due to their success with 3rd party titles. Is it money?
 
yankeessuck said:
These are question we can't answer as we don't work for ND. Maybe they just needed or wanted more time? And yeah if Sony was in a more desperate situation maybe the game would be out but maybe that wouldn't be a good thing
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I don't blame ND at all, as I said it could have been any of sony's big games with some heavy marketing, just have something so its not completely ridiculous. I mean why isn't GT7 ready? There have been 2 forza games already that will probably have more polish than GT7 whenever it comes out. More time=less polish? That's the kind of stuff that makes me scratch my head. Sony needs to get involved with their studios and get these games coming out.
 
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Yeah, i know. One game doesn't make a lineup. Uncharted 4 is going to be awesome though. Whether you like it or not! Honestly though, i could live off the X1's lineup for this year all through next year. Halo 5 multiplayer alone is going to last me months if not years if it delivers. I still need to pick up Forza 6 and you already know about my love for Gears of War: UE. We're eating good. The grass is greener on the other side.
 
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To me, I think Uncharted 4 and Tomb Raider cross each other out as giving either console an advantage (yes, even with TR coming out on PS4 a year too late).

X1 owns FPS/TPS with Halo and GoW. X1 also owns racing with F6 and FH2.

PS4 has a decided advantage in Indie titles, JRPG's, fighters, and story games. Multi-plats lean towards PS4's side.

Neither has launched a great platformer that I am aware of. Did I miss any other important genres?

All told I don't see either side with some glaring software advantage/disadvantage on a whole, but on an individual level either console's lineup could be more appealing to someone. For me, I am enjoying both so I have no issues with finding plenty of software to keep me occupied. If anything I am not keeping up with the pace and this holiday is going to put me into a huge backlog with UC, TR, and FO4 (while still playing RL, FIFA, and F6).
 
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If anyone follows major Nelson, the Xbox has been releasing indie after indie now.
 
Oblong said:
Neither has launched a great platformer that I am aware of. Did I miss any other important genres?

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Ori and The Blind Forest is the best platformer I've played in years. Unless you were talking strictly about 3D platformers.
 
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Z A C K said:
Dragon Quest Builders does look interesting. Too bad it will probably never make it out of Japan. I'd be up for playing it if it did though.
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I'm actually looking forward to this game too because I just finished Dragon Quest IX and V (PS2 version - fan translation) this past year. Hopefully, it gets ported to the states, but I doubt it.
 
Kvally said:
If anyone follows major Nelson, the Xbox has been releasing indie after indie now.
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Silly Indies only count on PS consoles when they're in 1st and can't keep up in the heavy hitters dept...

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de3d1 said:
I don't blame ND at all, as I said it could have been any of sony's big games with some heavy marketing, just have something so its not completely ridiculous. I mean why isn't GT7 ready? There have been 2 forza games already that will probably have more polish than GT7 whenever it comes out. More time=less polish? That's the kind of stuff that makes me scratch my head. Sony needs to get involved with their studios and get these games coming out.
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Why did Microsoft let Phantom Dust get cancelled? Why isn't Half Life 3 out? Because sometimes s*** happens.
 
List of the PS4's indie games that either simultaneously released on PC or was released first on PC. It's not a complete list fyi:
「(A) Simultaneous release
　(B) "Play it first on PC"」

The Witness (A)
Transistor (A)
Don't Starve (B)
Mercenary Kings (B)
Octodad (B)
Secret Ponchos (B)
Outlast (B)
Ray's the Dead (B)
Minecraft (B)
Volume (A)
Rogue Legacy (B)
The Bincing of Isaac (B)
Hotline Miami 2 (B)
Fez (B)
Nuclear Throne (A)
Assault Android Cactus (A)
Starbound (B)
Road Not Taken (A)
Cosmic Star Heroine (A)
1001 spikes (A)
Awesomenauts Starstorn (A?)
Goat Simulator (B)
Super Meat Boy (B)
SOMA (A)
Super Time Force Ultra (B)
Adventures of Pip (B)
VVVVVV (B)
Steins;Gate (B)
Xeodrifter (B)
I Am Bread (B)
Hatoful Boyfriend (B)
Submerged (A)
TorqueL (A?)
Nutjitsu (B)
Velocibox (B)
Pneuma: Breath of Life (B)
The Fall (B)
The Vanishing of Ethan Carter (B)
Yasai Ninja (A)
The Escapists (B)
Wander (A)
Riptide GP2 (B)
Shantae: Risky's Revenge (B)
Whispering Willows (B)
Skullgirls (B)
Kerbal Space Program (B)
Broken Age (B)
Bastion (B)
Element4l (B)
Teslagrad (B)
Shovel (B)
Slender: The Arrival (B)
Jamestown+ (B)
Broken Sword 5 (B)
Unmechanical Extended (B)
Limbo (B)
Trine (B)
Fairy Fence F (B)
Terraria (B)
Home (B)
Pier Solar (A)
Dust: An Elysian Tail (B)
Divekick (B)
Nidhogg (B)
Hotline Miami (B)
Another World (B)
War Thunder (B)
Seriou Sam 3: SFE (B)
 
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