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Interviewer: Obviously you still have a large userbase to cater to on PS4, but some will be concerned that that’s holding developers back from really making the most of the hardware. How do you balance those two things?

Jim Ryan:
(...) We do feel that we have a responsibility to that very large community, and an opportunity to carry on making great PS4 games for as long as the need is there. And I think that is the right thing to do, it’s the rational thing to do, and I think you will see a tail with PS4 that you did not see with PS3. But that said, as time passes, you’re going to see more and more emphasis on PS5 development and the PS5 SKU will be the lead SKU.

But it does confirm that Sony operates just like MS, they are developing games from the TOP down.

I've always felt the first 2 years of a new console launch is when games will still release on the older console just so it gives time for the userbase to upgrade to the next gen. Not everyone has the funds available right away at launch time and even if they do, there's always going to be a shortage right at launch as it's Christmas season and these make popular gifts for a lot of people.
 
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Immortals: Fenyx Rising PS5 vs XS consoles

Seems like multiplatform devs are producing similar results for now.

PS5 has generally/more often higher dynamic resolutions in performance mode but they are close.

In quality mode ps5 is locked 4k where as xsx is still dynamic resolution and can go down to 1870p in some scenes .

Quick summary:

Performance mode :
PS5 in dynamic 4K (2275x1280p ~ 3840x2160p)
XSX in dynamic 4K (1920x1080p ~ 3840x2160p)
XSS in dynamic 1080p (1280x720p ~ 1920x1080p)

Quality mode :
PS5 in native 4K (3840x2160p)
XSX in dyanmic 4K (3328x1872p ~ 3840x2160p)
XSS in dynamic 1440p (1920x1080p ~ 2560x1440p)

Framerate Performance Mode :
PS5: 59.99fps on average (Max: 60fps / min: 59fps)
XSX: 59.97fps on average (Max: 60fps / min: 56fps)
XSS: 47.06fps on average (Max: 60fps / min: 30fps)

*The PS5 in Performance mode has a strange bug that causes stuttering but not related to the game framerate.

Framerate Quality Mode :
PS5: 30.00fps on average (Max: 30fps / min: 30fps)
XSX: 30.00fps on average (Max: 30fps / min: 30fps)
XSS: 29.99fps on average (Max: 30fps / min: 27fps)

A little tearing on XSX and XSS in quality mode.


"PS5 in Performance Mode currently has a bug that causes stuttering unrelated to the games frame rate.

PS5 in Performance Mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being 3840x2160 and the lowest native resolution found being approximately 2275x1280. PS5 in Performance Mode rarely renders at a native resolution of 3840x2160.

Xbox Series X in Performance Mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being 3840x2160 and the lowest native resolution found being 1920x1080. Xbox Series X in Performance Mode rarely renders at a native resolution of 3840x2160.

The scene at 0:46 was where the lowest resolution was found and this scene seems to render at a higher average resolution on PS5 in Performance Mode than Xbox Series X in Performance Mode. However, in other scenes the PS5 and Xbox Series X render at a similar resolution in Performance Mode, and in some cases the Xbox Series X can render at a higher resolution than PS5."

PS5 and Xbox Series X in Performance Mode use a form of temporal reconstruction to increase the resolution up to 3840x2160 when rendering natively below this resolution.

Xbox Series S in Performance Mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being 1920x1080 and the lowest native resolution found being approximately 1280x720. Xbox Series S in Perforamnce Mode uses a form of temporal reconstruction to increase the resolution up to 1920x1080 when rendering natively below this resolution.

The only resolution found on PS5 in Quality Mode was 3840x2160.

Xbox Series X in Quality Mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being 3840x2160 and the lowest native resolution found being approximately 3328x1872. Drops in resolution below 3840x2160 on Xbox Series X in Quality Mode seem to be uncommon.

Xbox Series S in Quality Mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being 2560x1440 and the lowest native resolution found being 1920x1080. Xbox Series S in Quality Mode uses a form of temporal reconstruction to increase the resolution up to 2560x1440 when rendering natively below this resolution."

Performance chart : ps5 has slight advantage in performance on top of the resolution advantage

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All those teraflops... smh

Like i said, let me get my magnifying glass
 
They're barely using RDNA 2 features...on either console. Devs on Xbox aren't using mesh shaders, SFS or machine learning. Tools aren't allowing low level access for devs to optimize and aren't doing what they're intended to do in terms of automating things like SFS. Barely ray tracing and inefficient use of it. Either way, talking about an occasional drop in res from 4K...nobody would know if someone wasn't doing freeze frames to show you. This is the videogame equivalent of dick measuring contest...for people who need to compensate for losing real life dick measuring contests.
 
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I see you struggle with simple concepts.

what
 
As an aside, Series X has been pretty awesome for me. My biggest complaint is that instant resume is inconsistent. I can't notice these drops when playing. More power to those who can. If instant resume could work consistently long run, this console is pretty complete. Been really happy with how things look and play. Loading makes a massive difference. This little expansion card is slick as hell. The enhanced BC stuff is not getting enough air time. Biggest difference between this launch and previous ones from a satisfaction standpoint is the pure number of games that run and play better than ever. If you've accumulated a Xbox library over the years, Series X is worth it's weight for how those games play alone.

The good news for those who feel they made the wrong decision based on DF grass counting videos, there's an easy way out. You could probably recoup your entire cost and a little bit more on Ebay right now. The packaging the console came with makes it really easy to re-ship. This isn't like that one person who slept with without protection on spring break back in college or the tattoo of your ex girl's name on your chest. If anyone is really dissatisfied, they picked a great time to make the mistake. Everyone who got hold of one of these consoles which is working well should be pretty thankful.
 
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Isnt this another UBIsoft game? I'd bet its using the same engine as Ass Creed. All the metrics seem really similar
 
Isnt this another UBIsoft game? I'd bet its using the same engine as Ass Creed. All the metrics seem really similar
Yep. Seems to be similar issues for another open world game made by the same dev using the same tools releasing in the same release window.
 
Isnt this another UBIsoft game? I'd bet its using the same engine as Ass Creed. All the metrics seem really similar

Ubisoft Montreal made Valhalla, Ubisoft Quebec made Fenyx rising. Both are in Quebec I guess.
 
All those teraflops... smh

Like i said, let me get my magnifying glass

The start of this gen is definitely humbling a lot of Xbox fans that were shouting from the clouds about the teraflops difference.

Dev tools will get better for both consoles so will be interesting to see if Xbox will be gaining more advantage in the future.
 
The start of this gen is definitely humbling a lot of Xbox fans that were shouting from the clouds about the teraflops difference.

Dev tools will get better for both consoles so will be interesting to see if Xbox will be gaining more advantage in the future.

It'll be far more interesting to see what first party does on each.

Dev tools will improve for both however the Xbox tool situation is a bit unique in that it's in transition. Has far more limitations because it's just not ready. Playstation's is more mature. Logically it should see larger improvement gains as a result.

People should have a good clue how these things will land with 3rd party by Fall of 2021. Battlefield is the game to watch. :wink:

Fanboys will fanboy. Most people will play where they prefer to play regardless of how the pendulum swings with performance.
 
It'll be far more interesting to see what first party does on each.

Dev tools will improve for both however the Xbox tool situation is a bit unique in that it's in transition. Has far more limitations because it's just not ready. Playstation's is more mature. Logically it should see larger improvement gains as a result.

People should have a good clue how these things will land with 3rd party by Fall of 2021. Battlefield is the game to watch. :wink:

Fanboys will fanboy. Most people will play where they prefer to play regardless of how the pendulum swings with performance.

Definitely agree. Can't wait to see some nice first party goodies from the PS5 in 2021 even if some of them are cross gens. Their exclusives are usually where they shine.
 
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It'll be far more interesting to see what first party does on each.

Dev tools will improve for both however the Xbox tool situation is a bit unique in that it's in transition. Has far more limitations because it's just not ready. Playstation's is more mature. Logically it should see larger improvement gains as a result.

People should have a good clue how these things will land with 3rd party by Fall of 2021. Battlefield is the game to watch. :wink:

Fanboys will fanboy. Most people will play where they prefer to play regardless of how the pendulum swings with performance.
Hopeful but wont set my expectations to high especially with XBO still being supported.

We have a clue how it's working now.. xbots posted nonstop fake dev stories about how much better XSX games would look vs PS5 and we know the opposite actually happened.
No need to wait the differences are evident NOW anything extra to make this fact go away is spin.

Fanboy has nothing to do with the fact that one machine has been better for THIS gens gaming.
 


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Meanwhile in the real world, bots are grabbing up orders so fast that gamers can't even get their hands on a new console.

If you try to enter "xbox series x" or "playstation 5" in an Amazon search, it won't even take you to the console pages.
 
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Meanwhile in the real world, bots are grabbing up orders so fast that gamers can't even get their hands on a new console.

If you try to enter "xbox series x" or "playstation 5" in an Amazon search, it won't even take you to the console pages.
Nothing of value was missed though, No real games you can't play with the current-gen consoles except Godfall which was horribly rated.
 
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