Nintendo Direct Thread
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Meh, it's a drought so they might just be a bit bored in general, come E3 both the green and blue guys will be too busy with each other again
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Nintendo hasn't had their s*** together for quite a while, and its pretty much public record. I hardly think you can be categorized as a fan boy of one of the other systems just because you point that out. That's a complete lack of logic or perspective.
Oh, not to mention, anyone calling people Xbots or Ponies is only pointing out their own bias, and has no room to talk.
Oh, not to mention, anyone calling people Xbots or Ponies is only pointing out their own bias, and has no room to talk.
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Well I wasn't talking about you, but it appears I have rustled your jimmies anyways.
My bias? Sure, if you can call enjoying PC, PS4, Wii U, and 3DS a bias. Not my problem MS dropped the ball on the new console.
We're going astray with the fanboy accusations. Let's stick to the subject.
Picking up on what Eric was saying, I wish Nintendo would use E3 as an opportunity to talk to non-Nintendo fans (i.e., the people who haven't bought their console yet). The Nintendo Direct and Smash Bros. stuff is really for the hardcore fans. They need to reach wider than that. I want them to try to sell me a Wii U.
Picking up on what Eric was saying, I wish Nintendo would use E3 as an opportunity to talk to non-Nintendo fans (i.e., the people who haven't bought their console yet). The Nintendo Direct and Smash Bros. stuff is really for the hardcore fans. They need to reach wider than that. I want them to try to sell me a Wii U.
My post wasn't necessarily aimed directly at you either, though you saying Xbots did trigger a more broad frustration I have about people feeling the need to take unnecessary shots at other platforms. It was a generalized statement aimed at comments like yours though. I hear the term Xbots and Ponies used on this site and others frequently, and it never ceases to annoy me.
Its your opinion that MS dropped the ball on the X1, and your entitled to it. If you want to go that route though, its my opinion that Sony doesn't have a single game to this point to justify the purchase of a PS4, though I still look forward to getting one eventually, so to each their own. Regardless, this thread is about nintendo, and my stance, and others on MS or Sony has nothing to do with the disappointment many of us feel in the direction the big N is heading. I grew up loving this company, and there's very little left to love about them for me at the moment.
I love the Nintendo Direct episodes. But yeah I agree that they are preaching to the choir with those shows.
I think they're missing out on reaching a bigger audience with an E3 PC.
As far as if Nintendo is out of touch with the gaming audience as a whole, I think they are. For me personally, they're killing it right now ( in a good way). But to say that one manufacturer dropped the ball while the Wii U has virtually no third party supports for like the third generation in a row is kind of an interesting take on the situation.
I think they're missing out on reaching a bigger audience with an E3 PC.
As far as if Nintendo is out of touch with the gaming audience as a whole, I think they are. For me personally, they're killing it right now ( in a good way). But to say that one manufacturer dropped the ball while the Wii U has virtually no third party supports for like the third generation in a row is kind of an interesting take on the situation.
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The "Gaming" audience also might be "out of touch" themselves. Just look at them and their behaviour and you find clues to this problem. Very often they push for things that diametrically oppose the fun for other people including Gamers (Yes Gamers are Gamers, whether board, card or electronic. It's a hijacking to say it is only electronic). The reason for it often is an unhealthy fascination with "balance" or a feeling of loss when someone is enjoying something they do not.
The latter is the more vindictive of the two, where they literally will shout at people who just do not have the time to be there every night or for making a mistake. I know for a fact that quite a few people gave up on consoles just for that reason alone, they did NOT enjoy the verbal abuse for making a simple mistake. For them the Wii was an offbeat attempt to curry their favour and they loved it. But rather than to respect that, there is a sizeable amount of "gamers" that AGAIN will go on a "RAGEMAGE adventure in HATETOWN!" as he feels that any form of that "currying" is taking sizeable portion of the cake which is in limited suply. For this person fun is a very limited resource and he must scrounge it all. It often feels like many people just gave up. Daddy was a dick about everything, it was DADDY's console and any form of game that the rest of the family also might like is hated.... it is then not surprising that Mom and Little Billy go :"Let Daddy have his plastic wonder-box, we'll just play with something else... oooh cellphones!".
That said Nintendo is also a bit out of touch with that community, their Wii U is fine as Hardware: Cheap to build, small, efficient, offbeat and pick up and play (No Installs, No Downloads, No Online checks). The secondary screen was brilliant, it allows little Billy, Mommy or Daddy to play while the rest of the family uses the TV. This might not seem as a big thing for you or me, but for a budding family this is actually a big thing. Now.. at what point are they out of touch: Advertising. They still act like Apple.
Look at their commercials, it mostly is a woman with a 3DS or a Wii U telling you how much fun it is as were she using the newest brand of Tampons. No offence intended to any woman of course. Nintendo need to directly appeal to the children of the family, just like they did with the NES, SNES and N64, then again show a more "grown up" version of the commercial at a later time to influence mom and dad. Nintendo is treating the Wii U as a "Wii" and that is their problem. Nintendo doesn't need to compete with Sony or MS, those two try too hard to make their offering look like it isn't a "TOY!" as their fan-base, but mostly the 15 year old boys which are slightly younger than their intended audience, feel emasculated if you tell them they are playing with a Toy.
For Nintendo target audience, and slightly older men (like 20+) this is not a problem. They now that toys are for "boys of all ages" (*Girls included of course
) and thus don't mind if a commercial is aimed at a younger audience (No that doesn't mean sunshine, lollipops and rainbows all the time. Ecco the Dolphin on the Megadrive hardly was that, to give you one example).So I do believe Nintendo is a bit out of touch, but not with the Gamers. Nintendo needs to find its roots, be proud they are a toy maker and embrace it! Also show both parents and kids WHY you want a Nintendo system and why it is so awesome. The Nintendo fan(boys) will automatically follow as they remember that same Nintendo from their own childhoods, outside of a few that think it is too "Kiddy". But those already existed during the SNES era... they just feel emasculated if they play a toy
. Easiest target for car sales people :"Oh no, you do need that bigger engine..." .
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Oh I agree dehnus. Fun is fun. And Nintendo has never been out of touch with that.
Its just that the lack third party support was going to bite them in the ass eventually. And it looks like it finally has, so far.
Some of the things you mentioned are the reasons why I love Nintendo.
Its just that the lack third party support was going to bite them in the ass eventually. And it looks like it finally has, so far.
Some of the things you mentioned are the reasons why I love Nintendo.
Well I also sometimes feel third party also has become lazy. Not the programmers or the developers but the publishers. It is an easy thing to advertise graphics over gameplay. On top of that the bigger publishers seem stagnant in their offerings, I mean they hardly are original any more, it's all shooters mostly. The programmers and developers have to work their arses off to provide these graphics and the rest seems to stagnate, I mean... when was the last time a company like EA made something as fun as "Wonderful 101"?
To me it feels very stagnant compared to the Indie offerings and what NIntendo is producing. I'm not sure yet if MS will ever recover to the first Xbox level in diversity, I hope they do as the state of the industry is a bad one if you look at it from the perspective of diversity in major titles by third parties.
I agree that the big third party publishers have played it safe and have filtered things down to only the few titles that sell.
Not much different than what Microsoft did at the end of the 360's cycle. And not too much different than what Sony did. Although they had more variety.
Not much different than what Microsoft did at the end of the 360's cycle. And not too much different than what Sony did. Although they had more variety.
I just hope we'll be getting out of this rut soon, as a future of MOBA games, F2P MMO's (WOW is that too in my book as really they haven't added much MMORPG gameplay more simplified things and added singeplayer experiences) and Shooters, sounds bleak indeed. At least to me.
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I think you're missing the point that by doing it via Nintendo Direct they are talking to people who are already Nintendo fans and more than likely already own a WiiU. So if the news is awesome, like it looks like it will be, it can and will move software. It's not going to move as much hardware this way though. And I don't think Nintendo is hurting so badly that they really need to "save money" by not holding a conference.Sorry I didn't want to "feed"you in the previous thread as you hijacked it a bit. But I really do not agree with you. An E3 presser only reaches a limited audience that also would tune into a Nintendo direct presser, namely the press and gamers. Now I know that isn't what you wish to hear but you feel it isn't a "willingness to compete", I see it as a saving of money to reach an audience that they can also reach in this way. In fact here in Europe, anybody who is a Nintendo Club member get's an email to the stream. So they do reach their audience with it, another reason why I prefer Nintendo's way is that you at least do not have annoying paid audience screamers/cheerers. And the third reason is they do not need to compete directly, they tried that with the Gamecube which arguably was the most powerful of it's generation (The Xbox had good points, but the Gamecube outshined it in quite a few fields). Yet it didn't help.. you also a very important matter. Nintendo has been here before. Saturn vs Playstation, it was described as two High speed trains on a collision course every E3 and completely ignoring them, it then is not wise to stand in the middle and also throw money at it. In such cases it is best to let the two trains collide and pick up the survivors or people that get off the train
So no I do not see it as an "insecurity"and "Irrelevance" I see method to their actions, they just need to advertise a lot better to their main target audience. KIDS and Kids of all ages
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As for the rest of that list... DROOOOOOOOL!
And they at least keep Zelda Colourful too, not give in completely to the "raah we want Gears of Hyrule"
And Starfox Reboot... YES PLEASE!
Oh I had the perfect GIF from a Neogaf Poster that I found just ... hilarious
I'm not missing the point. E3 is too expensive for most people to visit, especially as most Europeans (big Nintendo fans) do not live in the USA. So anybody going would have to be a press member, in the industry or a very big enthousiast of gaming (Price winner excluded from this list ofcourse, some people are just lucky
).Now the press will also watch a Nintendo direct, if they do not? Then they are not worth their weight in polluted dirt as a journalist. Sorry but if a Press member only wants E3 news and will ignore events from a console manufacturer.. he really isn't a good journalist. So the people that do not own a console will find out the Nintendo news anyway via these gaming news sites and even normal ones. E3 is just an expensive status symbol, which is fine in normal times, but right now it seems that Sony and MS are at it like SEGA and Sony in olden times. Two full steam ahead locomotives thundering towards each other ramming everything aside that might stand in front of it.... than it is best to sit it out.. as one of the two will end up licking his wounds.
Look up old press articles of those E3's, and you'll see just how wild it was with the Saturn vs the PSone. And now things are even crazier than back then... as Sony has more at stake.
But this is an E3 Hype thread, not a "NINTENDO BAD BECAUSE <X>" thread, for those I point you to the gay bashing N4G... who will tell me just how sinful I am for my sexuality.. or GAF. The latter is the opposite in equal rights issues, but there are plenty of doom threads there too.
Now E3 NINTENDO DIRECT PRESSER! WOOHOO!:
Don't bother. He accused me of thread hijacking simply for making sense. Rose colored glasses and a fan boy mentality tend to keep people in the dark on the basics of common sense. An E3 conference = potential customers, a Nintendo Direct stream = current customers. Which does Nintendo need more?. Hmmmm.
Agreed. As this is a Nintendo E3 conference thread, I think it's fair to talk about how Nintendo could have done this differently. And plus, I'm not saying any of this as a hater, I'm saying this as a Nintendo fan who wants Nintendo to make me want to buy a console.
Excuse me? You seem overly hostile when you did hijack a thread with fairly negative news and even stating that Nintendo would be better of going third party and you don't think you will not get a fan to reply to you? Seriously, E3 Is for the Industry not new Customers. It always was an Industry convention not a fan convention. The people that follow E3 also follow the Nintendo Direct, ontop of that Nintendo fans would also follow it. If press doesn't than they aren't worth their weight, so sorry if you think the current Lazy Journalism is to be applauded.
"WHich does Nintendo need more?. Hmmm" wow Sarcasm. You are making sense to yourself, and I also made sense to myself. I just said that it FELT Like you where hijacking a thread, and that was why I didn't reply to you before. But now I did reply because I felt you where wrong.
But I see that I was wrong, I shouldn't reply to threads with you in it. Go have a nice Nintendo Bash together. I"m getting out of it. Have fun
. (Not Sarcasm, but I just have no time for negativity and sarcasm).PS: Excuse me btw for liking their little video and finding it funny that Reggie just said "I'll go home". As really he is right. I'll just go home.
Yeah I'm sure casuals who Nintendo needs to buy the console are going to be watching e3 press conferences.
Zelda Wii U E3 2014: So Is Nintendo Announcing Zelda Wii U At E3 Or Not?
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/23251/20140530/zelda-wii-u-e3-2014-nintendo-rumors.htm
Zelda Wii U is a sure thing at E3 2014, right? Right? Honestly, pretty much. Nintendo has been teasing its upcoming flagship game for a long time, and the time is finally here, no ifs, ands, or buts. Not only am I almost certain that Nintendo will unveil the game at E3 2014 based on what we know about it so far, which is a lot more than nothing, I think it will probably be the biggest reveal of E3 this year. Well, unless they reveal this:
The Zelda Wii U rumor mill has been revving up in the last few weeks, and with good reason. First came the entirely spurious rumor that the new Zelda was called Shard of Nightmare and that it would be playable on the show floor. Yea right on both counts. More recently, a much truer non-rumor has surfaced: that actor Zelda Williams, who has done Zelda-related performances in the past, has something special brewing for E3. Or, rather, "something extra special" that she guarantees "is not what you think." Well, what I think it is involves Zelda Wii U, so maybe it's not that, but it's certainly adding fuel to the rumors fire.
The truth is, the absence of Zelda Wii U at E3 2014 would be a bigger surprise than anything else happening at the show. Nintendo pretty much officially stated that the game would be there, way back in the fall. Indeed, Nintendo almost showed off Zelda Wii U at E3 last year, but bowed out at the last minute to let it get a little farther along and keep the attention on Wind Waker. That means this is the year.
Besides, Nintendo has to have a flagship every year. And a flagship doesn't mean Metroid or Star Fox. It means Mario or Zelda. The real system sellers. And, with Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart already on the table, and Mario proper almost certainly not far enough in development to announce, Zelda is their big deal for the summer. They have to announce it, because what else do they have?
Of course, Zelda Wii U counts for a lot. It's the biggest project Nintendo has ever worked on. It's going to be huge. And we'll learn all about it in just a few weeks
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/23251/20140530/zelda-wii-u-e3-2014-nintendo-rumors.htm
Zelda Wii U is a sure thing at E3 2014, right? Right? Honestly, pretty much. Nintendo has been teasing its upcoming flagship game for a long time, and the time is finally here, no ifs, ands, or buts. Not only am I almost certain that Nintendo will unveil the game at E3 2014 based on what we know about it so far, which is a lot more than nothing, I think it will probably be the biggest reveal of E3 this year. Well, unless they reveal this:
The Zelda Wii U rumor mill has been revving up in the last few weeks, and with good reason. First came the entirely spurious rumor that the new Zelda was called Shard of Nightmare and that it would be playable on the show floor. Yea right on both counts. More recently, a much truer non-rumor has surfaced: that actor Zelda Williams, who has done Zelda-related performances in the past, has something special brewing for E3. Or, rather, "something extra special" that she guarantees "is not what you think." Well, what I think it is involves Zelda Wii U, so maybe it's not that, but it's certainly adding fuel to the rumors fire.
The truth is, the absence of Zelda Wii U at E3 2014 would be a bigger surprise than anything else happening at the show. Nintendo pretty much officially stated that the game would be there, way back in the fall. Indeed, Nintendo almost showed off Zelda Wii U at E3 last year, but bowed out at the last minute to let it get a little farther along and keep the attention on Wind Waker. That means this is the year.
Besides, Nintendo has to have a flagship every year. And a flagship doesn't mean Metroid or Star Fox. It means Mario or Zelda. The real system sellers. And, with Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart already on the table, and Mario proper almost certainly not far enough in development to announce, Zelda is their big deal for the summer. They have to announce it, because what else do they have?
Of course, Zelda Wii U counts for a lot. It's the biggest project Nintendo has ever worked on. It's going to be huge. And we'll learn all about it in just a few weeks
Man, where the hell did that Majora's Mask trailer come from? If the game looked like that, I would die.
It's not real. Hopefully MM on WiiU is real though.. eventually (sooner rather than later).
Nintendo details E3 digital event timings
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/465787/nintendo-details-e3-digital-event-timings/
These videos will be broadcast at different times throughout E3, and will each focus on different aspects of the publisher's upcoming titles.
According to Nintendo, these are the following times gamers will want to tune in to see each video:
Nintendo Digital Event - Tuesday June 10, 9am PT (5pm UK time). This is the 'main' presentation that will replace Nintendo's E3 stage press event, so if you can only watch one of Nintendo's events this will be the one to watch. Nintendo plans to reveal "breaking news about great gaming experiences on the way for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS in 2014 and beyond".
Nintendo Minute: Live At E3 - Tuesday June 10, immediately after
Digital Event. As soon as the main presentation ends Nintendo will begin this post-show programme, showing more detailed information on the games that were just announced.
Super Smash Bros Invitational Tournament - Tuesday June 10, 4pm PT (midnight UK time). Nintendo's invitational Smash Bros tournament, which will be broadcast live on Nintendo's Twitch channel. A selection of pro Smash Bros players will come together to fight each other on the upcoming Super Smash Bros for Wii U.
Live From Nintendo Treehouse - Various times from June 10-12. Throughout the duration of E3, Nintendo will be streaming live video from the show floor with members of the Treehouse, Nintendo of America's product development division, giving extensive demos on each of the company's upcoming titles. The full times this will be broadcast are as follows:
Tuesday, June 10, 11:35am - 4pm PT (7:35pm - midnight UK time)
Wednesday, June 11, 9:15am - 6pm PT (17:15pm - 2am UK time)
Thursday, June 12, 9:30am - 5:00pm PT (17:30am - 1am UK time)
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/465787/nintendo-details-e3-digital-event-timings/
These videos will be broadcast at different times throughout E3, and will each focus on different aspects of the publisher's upcoming titles.
According to Nintendo, these are the following times gamers will want to tune in to see each video:
Nintendo Digital Event - Tuesday June 10, 9am PT (5pm UK time). This is the 'main' presentation that will replace Nintendo's E3 stage press event, so if you can only watch one of Nintendo's events this will be the one to watch. Nintendo plans to reveal "breaking news about great gaming experiences on the way for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS in 2014 and beyond".
Nintendo Minute: Live At E3 - Tuesday June 10, immediately after
Digital Event. As soon as the main presentation ends Nintendo will begin this post-show programme, showing more detailed information on the games that were just announced.
Super Smash Bros Invitational Tournament - Tuesday June 10, 4pm PT (midnight UK time). Nintendo's invitational Smash Bros tournament, which will be broadcast live on Nintendo's Twitch channel. A selection of pro Smash Bros players will come together to fight each other on the upcoming Super Smash Bros for Wii U.
Live From Nintendo Treehouse - Various times from June 10-12. Throughout the duration of E3, Nintendo will be streaming live video from the show floor with members of the Treehouse, Nintendo of America's product development division, giving extensive demos on each of the company's upcoming titles. The full times this will be broadcast are as follows:
Tuesday, June 10, 11:35am - 4pm PT (7:35pm - midnight UK time)
Wednesday, June 11, 9:15am - 6pm PT (17:15pm - 2am UK time)
Thursday, June 12, 9:30am - 5:00pm PT (17:30am - 1am UK time)
