It only needs the internet now. I'm saying locally we aren't far away from out muscling current gen with mobile tech. It wouldn't have happened if current gen had decent hardware.
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It only needs the internet now. I'm saying locally we aren't far away from out muscling current gen with mobile tech. It wouldn't have happened if current gen had decent hardware.
You mentioned KZ2 in the posts you initially quoted me.
You bringing up it,UC2 and my liking the PS4 continually is beyond irrelevant.
Who cares about your claimed findings? You claimed Splinter Cell Concraption had the best console lighting.
No de3d is clearly in defense mode.
I am in disappointed mode as I wanted more from nVidia.
As time goes by things improve and if they pass these consoles in performance that still won't be enough because of the internet only factor. Not any time soon which makes this a non factor IMO.
I don't knw about that. The TX1 is only 1/4 the power of a PS4 or X1... I think we're still multiple years away... but yeah, I know what you're saying.
Its doesn't have to be internet only though, that's an easy fix. Not talking X1, I mean future versions.
What! you gotta buy the console,pay for high speed internet(hopefully you are on uncapped internet) and pay to play!?
De3d just save up and buy a powerful PC with a nVidia GPU.
Its been known, the price isn't. However, steam access is something else too, cheaper games from the get go.
Wow, really? I haven't dug into it, but if that's true, that's really impressive.
Do you have a link to that?
I gave Val a one week break from the thread, or vice versa, I guess. I warned him twice about the negativity, but he couldn't stop. Hopefully it works, because PV changed the software or the layout since the last time I thread banned someone, so I'm not entirely sure I did it right.
I'll dig up the other article, but this is one I found.
By current gen, he means ps4, xb1 you can read it here.
http://www.gsmarena.com/nvidia_announces_tegra_x1_with_1_teraflop_performance-news-10643.php
Of course that's not everything in terms of performance, but still very impressive. Its insane how far ahead Nvidia is compared to the others, even the K1 processor is still the top mobile chip and this new chip is double that. Where is the competition?
Nvidia were a little bit cute with that 1 TFLOP figure.
It was measured at FP16 which is half precision. Xbox One and PS4 are measured at FP32 which is single precision.
The single precision figure for the Tegra X1 is 512 GFLOPS.
Is this the only place that 512 GFLOPS was found? http://www.anandtech.com/show/8811/nvidia-tegra-x1-preview/2
The only place I can find info is there and this thread http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691087-playstation-4/70954650?page=12
Curious to see if the info is backed up somewhere else.
EDIT: Found it, it seems the fp16 does hold up, but for certain applications that isn't enough to warrant the 1 tflop number, but for others it is. Not sure how that translates to gaming or what the ps4/xb1 would measure at that rate.
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I haven't looked at the numbers, or crunched any of the data yet - but if people are spit-balling the perf of the TX1 at about double that of the 360, that's about 1/4 of X1 (or if anything a bit less than 1/4).
How so? the 2nd shield tablet is a beast and one of the best tablets for the money in terms of specs.
I know it because I've seen my close friends actually using it. It's all great on paper but between various restrictions of Android devices, somewhat clunky controller, and bad battery life, it's simply not a good tablet at all. It's also very heavy, almost as heavy as my Nexus 9. That said Nexus 9 also uses the same Tegra K1 and it's not good as well; slowdowns, crashes, ridiculous battery discharging rate, etc. My previous tablet was Nexus 7 (2013), and even with much 'weaker' Snapdragon 600 chipset it was a much better product overall, albeit the size could be bigger. I would never buy a tablet with Nvidia chipset based on my experience so far.
Well, everything sounds better on paper and from corporate suits. Real world results is what is needed.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...vocateur-for-xbox-and-playstation-says-crytek
Pretty interesting read, Crytek says Crysis 3 on the Tegra X1 runs with all the bells and whistles and was just a port, no need to optimize on the level like 360/ps3. the extra RAM probably helped, not to mention the power increase compared to the old consoles.
Pretty interesting read, Crytek says Crysis 3 on the Tegra X1 runs with all the bells and whistles and was just a port, no need to optimize on the level like 360/ps3. the extra RAM probably helped, not to mention the power increase compared to the old consoles.
So the thing with streaming is that something, somewhere, has to render what you are playing and that something is way more expensive and complex than the box at the receiving end. Nobody has managed to figure out how many of those computers/servers/render stations are required and how does that scale up or down for a service with peaks and troughs of demand. The economics of it all must be incredibly complex in an even greater way than the launch of large online heavy games reliant on servers but rendering locally.
The up front investment must be gigantic.
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I would be concerned about having enough processing power to support any sizable gaming community. Does it automatically turn off effects and drop rez if a lot of people are playing the Witcher 3 maxed out at 1080p? Does the system just crash?
That's not even touching the lag issue. It will be interesting to how if this thing functions with a lot of users on at the same time.
Well since only a couple of people are gonna get this, I'm sure they have it covered with a server or two...
It's hard to get a feel for what it really looks like with how poor the vid quality is. That said, the game has all of those features on the 360, so it's not a shock that it would on the Shield which has twice the power.
My question is how the hell they fit it if the machine only has a 16GB hard drive( unless I have the wrong info). Hopefully you can attach an external?
I also want to know where all the "always on" warriors that contributed so heavily to the Xbox One's initial negative reception are. Seriously, they acted like MS was going to enter their homes and sexually violate them or something. Perhaps they got it all out of their system.
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I also want to know where all the "always on" warriors that contributed so heavily
You can take your Microshaft, and shove it up your ass!
Just be glad it isn't me, cuz then you'd be dealing with Macroshaft!
You can take your Microshaft, and shove it up your ass!
Just be glad it isn't me, cuz then you'd be dealing with Macroshaft!
There is a usb port which you can attach external hdd i believe they mentioned that and i think there is a microsd slot as well to also add extra storage. I might be wrong but i am pretty sure i read that about the console.
It has two USB 3.0 ports and microSD, I believe. I'm not sure if it supports external drives though. I can't see why not, but given how much emphasis is put on how small it is, having an external next to it that is probably the same size is strange. You could go with Micro SD, but that is expensive for not a whole lot of space.
Given that it's pushed as such an inexpensive console "alternative", That's definitely something to keep in mind. Hell, add in a decent hard drive, and you are getting a lot closer to the price of the competition with a quarter the local power.
I would imagine they would all external drives, if not then i think they will have alot of problems with it. As long as the price for the grid streaming service is reasonable i most likely will pick this up at some point but if pricing is high then i may have to skip. also curious to what the pricing for the games like doom 3, crysis 3 will be as well.