Numbers Discussion Thread

Are You Buying...

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  • All Digital

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  • 50/50

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  • Mostly Physical

    Votes: 4 40.0%
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So Xbox is half PS5 sales, so just like last gen.
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So Xbox is half PS5 sales, so just like last gen.
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To be fair the Series X sells just about every unit they make just like the PS5 does, the Series S on the other hand is starting to become easier to find especially in Europe. Once these supply problems go away it'll be interesting to see how sales go, I predict PS5 will still have a large overall lead in sales globally and that NA will be a little closer than last gen with PS5 still on top.
 
July NPD 2021

State of the market

July 2021 consumer spending across video game hardware, content and accessories increased 10% when compared to a year ago, reaching a July record $4.6B. Year-to-date spending totaled $33.5B, a 14% increase when compared to the same period in 2020.

Hardware was one of the primary drivers of July gains, as dollar sales of console and portable video game systems were 98% higher than in July 2020. Sales of Content increased by $232M, as Mobile, Subscription and Post-Launch Content spend grew vs year ago


Hardware

July video game hardware dollar sales grew 98% when compared to July 2020, to $323 million. This is the highest total achieved in a July month since 2008 ($447M), and the third highest July month total in history. Year-to-date hardware spending has increased 50% when compared to the same period in 2020, reaching $2.7 billion.

PlayStation 5 led the hardware market in dollar sales for the month of July, while Nintendo Switch once again led in unit sales.

Nintendo Switch is the best-selling video game hardware year-to-date in both unit and dollar sales.

Content

The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword was the best-selling game of July 2021. It is the first Nintendo published title to lead the monthly best-sellers chart since the launch of Super Mario 3D world in the February 2021 tracking month.

Monster Hunter Stories 2: Wings of Ruin debuted as the third best-selling game of July 2021. Launch month sales of Monster Hunter Stories 2: Wings of Ruin more than tripled the lifetime sales of Monster Hunter Stories, originally released on Nintendo 3DS in 2017.

Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War ranked as the 2nd best-selling game of the month of July, and remains the best-selling game of 2021 year-to-date. Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War was the best-selling game of the month on both the PlayStation and Xbox platforms.

MLB The Show 21 surpassed Resident Evil: Village to become the 2nd best-selling game of 2021. Year-to-date sales of MLB The Show 21 are the highest in franchise history.

Accessories

July 2021 spending on video game accessories increased 11% when compared to a year ago, reaching $189 million. Year-to-date accessory sales totaled $1.4 billion, an increase of 13% when compared to the same period in 2020.

The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Edition Joy-Con was the best-selling accessory of July in dollar sales. The PS5 DualSense Wireless Controller White remains the best-selling accessory year-to-date.

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Hades split - 93% PS platform, 7% Xbox platform. That GP doing work.


This week is one of those, with the three biggest games being Mario Kart 8: Deluxe, Grand Theft Auto 5 and Minecraft (Switch). Which are all games that were first released a generation ago on other platforms (2014 for Mario Kart, 2013 for GTA and 2011 for Minecraft).

Of course, all three of those games have been mainstays in the Top Ten for years, particularly since they launched on more modern hardware. Mario Kart 8: Deluxe is back at No.1 after a 6% sales increase week-on-week, GTA 5 climbs five places to No.2 after a 44% sales jump, while Minecraft is at No.3 following a 17% sales leap.

Rounding off the Top Five is the official Olympics game from Sega at No.4 (sales down 5%) and Animal Crossing: New Horizons at No.5 (sales flat week-on-week).

Last week's No.1, F1 2021, falls five places to No.6 after a 34% sales drop.

New to the charts this week is Hades, which lands at No.8 thanks to the game's launch on PlayStation and Xbox platforms. With the box release handled by Private Division, 70% of the game's launch sales were on PS5, 23% on PS4 and 7% on Xbox Series. Of course, many Xbox games will be able to access the game via the Game Pass subscription service, and that data is not counted here.

A few more PS5 consoles were released last week into the market, which sees Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart return to the Top 40 at No.10 with a 313% sales rise. Other games to benefit from the new PS5 stock includes Resident Evil Village at No.11 (sales up 151%) and Spider-Man: Miles Morales at No.12 (sales up 101%).
 
We don't know how much they get from putting their title on GP could be more could be less then possible sales.
 
Don't they get a set amount upfront then depending on how many users play on GP, they get more?

Yea I think that's how they do it, they might pay more upfront for a popular game like Hades, then it'll be a however many play the game.

I think for most cases, a game been on GP probably won't paint a pretty picture sales wise, but could make it back on whatever they get paid plus micro transaction's have potential to be popular too, a few of my friends will happily spend 10-30 bucks on MTX if they like it enough.
 
Hades split - 93% PS platform, 7% Xbox platform. That GP doing work.


This week is one of those, with the three biggest games being Mario Kart 8: Deluxe, Grand Theft Auto 5 and Minecraft (Switch). Which are all games that were first released a generation ago on other platforms (2014 for Mario Kart, 2013 for GTA and 2011 for Minecraft).

Of course, all three of those games have been mainstays in the Top Ten for years, particularly since they launched on more modern hardware. Mario Kart 8: Deluxe is back at No.1 after a 6% sales increase week-on-week, GTA 5 climbs five places to No.2 after a 44% sales jump, while Minecraft is at No.3 following a 17% sales leap.

Rounding off the Top Five is the official Olympics game from Sega at No.4 (sales down 5%) and Animal Crossing: New Horizons at No.5 (sales flat week-on-week).

Last week's No.1, F1 2021, falls five places to No.6 after a 34% sales drop.

New to the charts this week is Hades, which lands at No.8 thanks to the game's launch on PlayStation and Xbox platforms. With the box release handled by Private Division, 70% of the game's launch sales were on PS5, 23% on PS4 and 7% on Xbox Series. Of course, many Xbox games will be able to access the game via the Game Pass subscription service, and that data is not counted here.

A few more PS5 consoles were released last week into the market, which sees Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart return to the Top 40 at No.10 with a 313% sales rise. Other games to benefit from the new PS5 stock includes Resident Evil Village at No.11 (sales up 151%) and Spider-Man: Miles Morales at No.12 (sales up 101%).
LOL GP
 
Yea I think that's how they do it, they might pay more upfront for a popular game like Hades, then it'll be a however many play the game.

I think for most cases, a game been on GP probably won't paint a pretty picture sales wise, but could make it back on whatever they get paid plus micro transaction's have potential to be popular too, a few of my friends will happily spend 10-30 bucks on MTX if they like it enough.

But I keep hearing GP promotes more game sales 🤔

Which is the opposite of what I keep seeing here. Many say that since a game is on GP that's why they are not buying it.
 
But I keep hearing GP promotes more game sales 🤔

Which is the opposite of what I keep seeing here. Many say that since a game is on GP that's why they are not buying it.


Almost like people see people playing a digital copy of a game and then buy it.....digitally
 
Almost like people see people playing a digital copy of a game and then buy it.....digitally

Just from here, the only Xbox fan I know who is buying games that are also on Gamepass is Hedon and maybe you. Everyone else is just happy playing it for free.

I am interested in seeing the stats for who actually bought Microsoft Flight Sim and The Ascent from those who are playing it here. Btw, how are those flight sim sales? Haven't heard anything in regards to numbers sold since it released.
 
Just from here, the only Xbox fan I know who is buying games that are also on Gamepass is Hedon and maybe you. Everyone else is just happy playing it for free.

I am interested in seeing the stats for who bought Microsoft Flight Sim from those who are playing it here.


I trust what MS and actual developers have said than someone always trying to spin MS related stuff
 
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Xbox had record profits as well.


Shhhh you have to leave that bit out.


I didn't think the Switch would be a big success and I've not turned mine on all year but damn. Pretty sure it's now outsold the N64, Gamecube and Wii U combined.
 
But I keep hearing GP promotes more game sales 🤔

Which is the opposite of what I keep seeing here. Many say that since a game is on GP that's why they are not buying it.

That's how it is for me. I see no reason at all to buy a game after finishing it on GP. I paid $1 for 3 months of it and I'm almost done with the handful of games I was looking forward to playing. I wouldn't even pay $5 to keep any of the games I've played.
 
That's how it is for me. I see no reason at all to buy a game after finishing it on GP. I paid $1 for 3 months of it and I'm almost done with the handful of games I was looking forward to playing. I wouldn't even pay $5 to keep any of the games I've played.

That's my mindset as well. If a game is on the subscription and free, I sure as hell won't buy it.
 
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That's how it is for me. I see no reason at all to buy a game after finishing it on GP. I paid $1 for 3 months of it and I'm almost done with the handful of games I was looking forward to playing. I wouldn't even pay $5 to keep any of the games I've played.
Are you gonna continue to subscribe to GP?
 
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