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Wait, there is more than one brand of console? Why haven't we talked about this?
Sarcastically Dtwice said Xbox had no games and wondered why it would sell. You responded:
So I think most people here would see that as you agreeing with him that Xbox has no games (though his was sarcasm).
You don’t understand? Ok help me understand why my PS5 has literally sat there never turned on since November and yet my Series X is always running playing exclusives and multiplatform games, new and old.
I don’t understand your mindset. Besides bleeding blue that is. Microsoft just put up a list of 2021 exclusives coming out and confirmed. I want most of those. And they have more coming in 2021 unannounced as well. Yet the only thing I see turning my PS5 all of 2021 is GT7, which is looking like it’s getting delayed.
^now that’s a Shawn like post.
Sony fans seem content with only Gran Turismo/Uncharted/GodofWar rinse and repeat ever few years with no big exclusives while MS and Nintendo are churning them out. /s
God I swear things never change here.
Nowhere did I respond saying anything about Xbox and its games, I just made a comment saying they are probably banking from just Xbox live and GamePass subs as to why they would not just pack it in.
Slow down there and read it again. Don't let the red (or green in this case?) cloud your vision.
If most people here would see that as me agreeing with him then why are you the only one pointing this out the whole day? Seems like you're the only one again putting words into my posts and trying to make it sound like I said Xbox have no games at all, which just isn't true as much as you would like to believe it is.
As for your last point, that's easy. The answer is because you prefer the Xbox system and its games, you said it yourself.
Spiderman, Horizon Zero Dawn, The Last of Us 1 and 2, Infamous, FF7 remake, Ghost of Tsushima, Persona 5, Bloodborne, Killzone, Driveclub say hi.
Yeah and it just so turns out that Sony and Nintendo have more bigger name exclusives than the Xbox which also sell quite well.
Microsoft is heading towards the right direction though with acquiring more studios to build its first party. I'm glad they are here to push Sony more. If the Xbox never released, I don't think Sony would have made as much of an effort in releasing all these quality exclusives throughout these years. Competition is good.
I have no issue with your opinion.
Yes it is. I started on PS back when it came out. More and more competition has come out since then and has changed the industry.
They have, since launch day...just nothing entirely new from their respective 1st parties
It's a fact that both Sony and Nintendo's exclusives sell better than Xbox's. Means more people have played them and know about them, which means more popular, thus more big name. It's not an opinion. It's what the global sales of each exclusive titles tells us.
Back on the 360 i would have taken Xbox exclusives over PS everytime. The OG Xbox had great exclusives aswell.
My advice is for gamers to stop worrying about the business. For the first time ever, the head of Microsoft has gaming tied to his compensation. They just made the biggest purchase ever in the AAA gaming industry coming off their most profitable year in gaming. Their primary console exclusive is Game Pass. If you don't like it or anything else that Xbox offers, simply don't buy it and move on. There's plenty who do. It's kind of a silly discussion to focus on the business metrics that matter to you and disagree with the business metrics that matter to Nadella and Hood. They've proven their business acumen.
It is perfectly fine to be happy of your consumer choice. I have been using iphones, but even so I can recognised others have catch on & even exceed the quality. I am just too lazy to change to new UI/OS & the build quality of the iphones has served me well.
The issue I see here is some people who are not satisfy with just enjoying their gaming platform of choice, but trying too hard to tell other NOT to make any point that one device is better or more popular than the other, which usually the device that they did not buy.
It perfectly fine not to want to engage in "vs", & not everything need to be a competition. But you can choose NOT to participate. If you do, then don't go around telling people NOT to compare.
The issue I see here is some people who are not satisfy with just enjoying their gaming platform of choice, but trying too hard to tell other NOT to make any point that one device is better or more popular than the other, which usually the device that they did not buy.
It perfectly fine not to want to engage in "vs", & not everything need to be a competition. But you can choose NOT to participate. If you do, then don't go around telling people NOT to compare.
I've spoken to a couple devs on this. The Series X hardware is very good. There isn't anything wrong with the hardware combination. Issue is immature tools as has been reported. I asked for a quick update from my dev buddy last week and he said it'll be a year before you see the Series X pull ahead. Even after tools get updates, it takes time for studios to update those tools and then even longer to be able to show results. To show how raw the tools are, there's still features disabled today. The games released today are primarily a reflection of the dev kits from last year. The pandemic has only slowed the expected transition.
The most interesting/exciting stuff I've heard regarding Series X potential is around Direct ML. Those examples will be even more than a year away. There's mixed opinions about it's upside but some of the more optimistic things I heard regarding it seem like Mister X levels of outlandishness. I'm going to shut up on it until I see results...but it's worth keeping an eye on.
I'm not telling people not to compare. I simply believe people who compare are taking a narrow and antiquated view. Top 20 sales of games doesn't say what it used to say. Hardware sales doesn't say what it used to say. The comparisons aren't as direct as they were in the past. To me, the Xbox ecosystem is superior due to the combo of the Elite Controller 2, Game Pass and quick resume. I'll buy a PS5D as soon as it's available for Demon Souls. I understand many would disagree with my opinion. That's because they have different priorities and these platforms are no longer succeeding with the same strategies.
Unless this Direct ML is tick box feature like Vsync or FSAA, DLSS that do its work in the background, or simple to implement, most third-party devs will not bother to utilize it.
I am not talking about you. Just to clear it up. My post was made before your post, I just finished it & posted it after my shower.
Of course, ease of implementation will be key with 3rd party devs. I don't know much in that area outside of the fact it's being used more often on PC. I don't work in gaming but my experiences with ML is that sharing and iterating scripts for your purposes are common. Like I can take a script written for another businesses purpose and tweak it for my own. With Microsoft's growing stable of studios and tech sharing, I'd be surprised is there isn't consistent growth of it's use as the gen progresses.
But the elite controller is hardly unique and you can get very similar controllers on any platform.
Quick resume is funny to me. Games load so fast now that this feature isn't really needed at all
They just seem like very fanboy reasons. Oh PS doesn't do this so lets list them. Lol.
No just different priorities. I respect those that say these things don't matter. They do for me and I suspect they will for many others. "Fanboy reasons" is just a way to dismiss someone else's priorities.
I tried "similar controllers" on Playstation. They aren't similar. I didn't like them. Not even close.
Quick resume picks up right where you left off. It feels better than just loading faster. If you're someone who likes to keep a healthy number of games in a rotation, it matters.
The interesting thing is, if MS implements the back buttons of the elite controller to XseX/S, it will automatically beat dual sense. If I am not wrong, most pro/competitive controller players use controllers with back buttons to avoid right thumbstick downtime when pressing face buttons.
More inputs/ease of reaching inputs->feeling.
They do. But theese players play others in the top few percent. For 90% of gamers it is a nothing gain. Top pro players turn off rumble in shooters too. Top players do things like drop shooting, jump shooting which is where the back buttons get utilized. Most gamers don't do those things.
Dual sense is trying to enhance the experience. I'd rather have that. I remember the rumble triggers in Forza Motorsport last gen, the difference between how it felt was big relative to games with zero or poor implementation. It added to the experience and made it more engrossing.
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