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That is just bulls***.
OK, so how do you know that people around him in Xbox (all obviously underneath him) did NOT say anything?... I mean Phil's plan went into effect, basically immediately. He claims some of the launch blame, as he was still the Director of Games or whatever. Still, it's like he walked in knowing EXACTLY what was wrong with Xbox, from a gamer perspective. Did he personally say something was wrong to Mattrick, like "we're on the wrong course!"? Who knows? How do we know he didn't? Furthermore, this is not unlike saying "your entire skillset as President of Xbox is misplaced", (and it would actually be pretty accurate). I have to say that if he didn't say anything to Don, he must have at least went over his head and woke someone else up, like Nadella. It's not like Phil was blindsided, with no clear path forward.
 
OK, so how do you know that people around him in Xbox (all obviously underneath him) did NOT say anything?... I mean Phil's plan went into effect, basically immediately. He claims some of the launch blame, as he was still the Director of Games or whatever. Still, it's like he walked in knowing EXACTLY what was wrong with Xbox, from a gamer perspective. Did he personally say something was wrong to Mattrick, like "we're on the wrong course!"? Who knows? How do we know he didn't? Furthermore, this is not unlike saying "your entire skillset as President of Xbox is misplaced", (and it would actually be pretty accurate). I have to say that if he didn't say anything to Don, he must have at least went over his head and woke someone else up, like Nadella. It's not like Phil was blindsided, with no clear path.
I don't.
 
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We are all arm chair quarterbacks.

But if you were Phil and you wanted to move Xbox into a new and proper direction, what would you do? What would you do differently than he has? And when you are at a conference table of fellow workers and also have to report to the CEO, how would you balance all their feedback and CEO requirements?

Would you use a marker board and go through with everyone and look at what needs to change, gamer feedback, etc and look at that list of thousands of things and start to prioritize them?

How would you run Xbox and run Marketing?
 
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There's no logic in your hate for gp except the underlying fear of Sony being outmaneuvered and considered a failure in regards to being in the forefront of console technology for the first time.
No signs of anything like this happening,surely not gonna change because of gp.
 
It's interesting that all Xbox devs and execs = spin. Cerny and PS devs are the only ones who have all the facts, unbiased and present everything fair and balanced.


I'm not close to the situation to know either way. 3rd party devs still seem to be under NDA about specifics. We are only a week away so you'd think they'd avoid this I/O talk if it were such a weakness...but I believe Xbox Series X games optimized around Velocity should have next to no load times.
 
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Gross. Going into next gen and we are STILL happy with 30fps. Even with these much touted super ‘SSDs’ and ‘MOAR teraflops’.
Thank God I also have a PC for my consistent 60+ framerate experience...

Console gamers are used to it, we've been playing mostly 30fps for a hell of a long time and that's totally fine with me, I don't want a new gen just to get games that look slightly better at 60fps I want games that look as good as they can and I'm willing to settle for a stable 30fps to make that happen. Of course it also depends on the type of game, fighting, racing and competitive online games should be 60fps but most other types of games are just fine and totally playable at 30fps. If they were able to get 60fps and give us significant visual upgrades that'd be great too but it takes a lot more power to get a little more punch graphically these days so a lot of these extra TF's will get used up a lot faster than they would have in the past.
 
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How deep in your a** do you pull out your GP takes? As time goes on you really going to hate where GP takes the industry.

Most gamers will hate it, long term it's not going to work and MS's first party games will suffer for having to be available day one on a service that's not pulling in enough money to cover the costs of making the games right now. They've already said they'll be focusing on AA games and I think we all know that price is going to go up at some point.
 
Console gamers are used to it, we've been playing mostly 30fps for a hell of a long time and that's totally fine with me, I don't want a new gen just to get games that look slightly better at 60fps I want games that look as good as they can and I'm willing to settle for a stable 30fps to make that happen. Of course it also depends on the type of game, fighting, racing and competitive online games should be 60fps but most other types of games are just fine and totally playable at 30fps. If they were able to get 60fps and give us significant visual upgrades that'd be great too but it takes a lot more power to get a little more punch graphically these days so a lot of these extra TF's will get used up a lot faster than they would have in the past.
Yes, only Nintendo and MS cares about 60fps (Nintendo already ahead), Sony doesn't seem to care, I would think their ssd would handle the fps without much work idk
 
Console gamers are used to it, we've been playing mostly 30fps for a hell of a long time and that's totally fine with me, I don't want a new gen just to get games that look slightly better at 60fps I want games that look as good as they can and I'm willing to settle for a stable 30fps to make that happen. Of course it also depends on the type of game, fighting, racing and competitive online games should be 60fps but most other types of games are just fine and totally playable at 30fps. If they were able to get 60fps and give us significant visual upgrades that'd be great too but it takes a lot more power to get a little more punch graphically these days so a lot of these extra TF's will get used up a lot faster than they would have in the past.
I'm fine with 30FPS for most games. 60FPS didn't magically makre Gears more fun. I'm sitting here playing Aassetto Corsa Competizione, a full on sim, and it is 30fps and it is fine.

Stabilty is more important imo. A nice rocksteady FPS is what I want.
 
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How deep in your a** do you pull out your GP takes? As time goes on you really going to hate where GP takes the industry.

You DO KNOW, both competitors have cloud strategies, right? Sure, Microsoft has servers, but PS is not only using those very servers, but it also has servers of its own. In addition to this, certain games are too robust to be ran in the cloud. So GP is not the be all end all.
 
You DO KNOW, both competitors have cloud strategies, right? Sure, Microsoft has servers, but PS is not only using those very servers, but it also has servers of its own. In addition to this, certain games are too robust to be ran in the cloud. So GP is not the be all end all.
What game is too robust for cloud streaming?
 
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You DO KNOW, both competitors have cloud strategies, right? Sure, Microsoft has servers, but PS is not only using those very servers, but it also has servers of its own. In addition to this, certain games are too robust to be ran in the cloud. So GP is not the be all end all.

There she is.

Anyway, has Sony ever done anything wrong?
 
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Anyone else notice the only GP down players in here have a common Sony theme about them. Hmmmm.
I remember when polls were taken for years and years here and on other forums. They asked what the priority was, graphics or performance. Performance won hands down every time, for everyone. Suddenly, graphics are more important than performance. 🥴

And now Game Pass = End of Gaming as we know it.
 
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Most gamers will hate it

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long term it's not going to work

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and MS's first party games will suffer for having to be available day one on a service that's not pulling in enough money to cover the costs of making the games right now.

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They've already said they'll be focusing on AA games

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I think we all know that price is going to go up at some point.

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Maybe it won't work out for Microsoft financially and obviously they would raise the price at some point but that doesn't matter much to me because its good value now. More so if game prices increase for no good reason. If Sony said they were putting their games on PS Now day 1 Val would be singing its praises in every post.

I do think its weird how people act like it gamepass starts to take off big every company is going to stand in the streets applauding them and not creating their own competing services.
 
Most gamers will hate it, long term it's not going to work and MS's first party games will suffer for having to be available day one on a service that's not pulling in enough money to cover the costs of making the games right now. They've already said they'll be focusing on AA games and I think we all know that price is going to go up at some point.
Long term I'd say the opposite. Right now games are recouped by sales and GP. I doubt that will change in the future. Will the sub price increase at somepoint, absolutely.

What gamers will hate is high latency, low quality streaming. Once they eliminate these it will be finee.
 
No MS don't cause if they did no 30fps games would be coming to XSX.
Of course they care about 60 fps. That's why they've been moving their main franchises that way. Halo 5, Gears, even Forza Horizon has a frame-rate mode.
 
I remember when polls were taken for years and years here and on other forums. They asked what the priority was, graphics or performance. Performance won hands down every time, for everyone. Suddenly, graphics are more important than performance. 🥴

And now Game Pass = End of Gaming as we know it.
I think people Say performance for gamer cred. Graphics have always dominated. You think uncharted or Tlou would have been anywhere as popular? Sony sells the most first party games any they are all 30. And not always stable at that.
 
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