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It just needs more balance and consistency. I think it can be done, but just not from XGS output alone.

I'm not knocking Gamepass. Even with 2 thirds being Indies 10-15 bucks for 400 games is still a great deal. I just think MS is at a point now where it needs to re-evaluate the content they put up and find more quality over quantity.
I think it would be a great service to offer as is without their new games included, it doesn't seem sustainable to build their entire business model around it IMO. I'd keep new AAA games off of the service for a year or something like that. I'd keep it as a place for indies and older games that have sold all they are probably going to sell. There is nothing wrong with having a secondary service like that to offer to people who are casuals and don't want to buy every big game that comes out but whenever they do finally start releasing AAA games on a semi regular basis I'm pretty sure most of them are going to be built around some form of backend monetization, the more studios they buy the more expensive the division becomes and that means more money needs to come in, GP sub fees won't be anywhere near enough especially if they keep missing their targets.

As far as quality over quantity that's been my main issue with the service the entire time, I keep hearing how great of a deal it is but when you can't find anything that you want to play that you haven't already played before is it really a deal? It looks like a great value on the face of it but I look through that catalog every week or two and I can't find anything that I want to play that I haven't already owned at some point. I realize I buy more games than the average person but still I don't think it's as great of a value for everyone as some think.
 
That is expensive as hell, I shudder to think what it would be in my country, I'll stick to my normal HDD.
I planned on doing the same but I'm a bad impulse shopper and got the WD 2TB one for $429 so they are cheaper already and I just got mine like a month before they put the update out. I can totally see someone buying a big external HDD and just swapping games back and forth, that's what I planned on doing. You can get a 4TB external HDD for around $120 if you look hard enough, sometimes even cheaper.
 
I think it would be a great service to offer as is without their new games included, it doesn't seem sustainable to build their entire business model around it IMO. I'd keep new AAA games off of the service for a year or something like that. I'd keep it as a place for indies and older games that have sold all they are probably going to sell. There is nothing wrong with having a secondary service like that to offer to people who are casuals and don't want to buy every big game that comes out but whenever they do finally start releasing AAA games on a semi regular basis I'm pretty sure most of them are going to be built around some form of backend monetization, the more studios they buy the more expensive the division becomes and that means more money needs to come in, GP sub fees won't be anywhere near enough especially if they keep missing their targets.

As far as quality over quantity that's been my main issue with the service the entire time, I keep hearing how great of a deal it is but when you can't find anything that you want to play that you haven't already played before is it really a deal? It looks like a great value on the face of it but I look through that catalog every week or two and I can't find anything that I want to play that I haven't already owned at some point. I realize I buy more games than the average person but still I don't think it's as great of a value for everyone as some think.
It is sustainable but it needs a lot of subs, and they have the potential userbase to get those subs.

They have said games wont be built for the Gamepass model and they said they wont force GAAS on their dev studios. But, only time will tell if MTs become a crutch for them.

Objectively is great value. Personally, I haven't played a game from start to finish via Gamepass since Outriders back in April. But, having said that, this year has been pretty garbage game wise anyway. But, Gamepass has Horizon 5 and Football Manager 2022 next month and I'll get plenty of playtime out of those.
 
It just needs more balance and consistency. I think it can be done, but just not from XGS output alone.

I'm not knocking Gamepass. Even with 2 thirds being Indies 10-15 bucks for 400 games is still a great deal. I just think MS is at a point now where it needs to re-evaluate the content they put up and find more quality over quantity.
They also need more new first party day one games in it. But they need more new first party games. Get to it MS. They have almost 30 teams now making games. Let’s see them.
 
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They also need more new first party day one games in it. But they need more new first party games. Get to it MS. They have almost 30 teams now making games. Let’s see them.
They do, but that is a mish mash of AAA, AA, and indie like studios. Plus those a coming, but I'm talking more stuff like Outriders and STALKER 2. Day 1 third party quality AA, AAA titles, and 3rd party games after launch but in a more relevant time frame.
 
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They also need more new first party day one games in it. But they need more new first party games. Get to it MS. They have almost 30 teams now making games. Let’s see them.
So many studios and maybe a handful of them have released a new game for either generation of Xbox in the past two years….not counting their 2nd/3rd party exclusive(s).

Next year may be shaping up to be a more promising year though…the VGAs and e3 can’t come soon enough lol
 
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So many studios and maybe a handful of them have released a new game for either generation of Xbox in the past two years….not counting their 2nd/3rd party exclusive(s).

Next year may be shaping up to be a more promising year though…the VGAs and e3 can’t come soon enough lol
Well Forza Horizon 5, Halo Infinite and Starfield seem to be their true beginning which are all coming out in the next year.
 
Well Forza Horizon 5, Halo Infinite and Starfield seem to be their true beginning which are all coming out in the next year.
True, but I think Forza Motorsport may be the first showcase of what can be done with raytracing both visually and audibly for a nextgen title. Followed up by ninja theory’s titles and whatever the coalition may be doing.

Starfield, if it’s series x/s exclusive it’ll be another tent pole of a next Gen game could be. But again, with each new game from their respective studio, is just the beginning.

Studios like ninja theory, double fine, and compulsion will be the biggest risk takers, especially now that they don’t have to worry about keeping the lights on, they can explore and express that what they’ve been holding back
 
True, but I think Forza Motorsport may be the first showcase of what can be done with raytracing both visually and audibly for a nextgen title. Followed up by ninja theory’s titles and whatever the coalition may be doing.

Starfield, if it’s series x/s exclusive it’ll be another tent pole of a next Gen game could be. But again, with each new game from their respective studio, is just the beginning.

Studios like ninja theory, double fine, and compulsion will be the biggest risk takers, especially now that they don’t have to worry about keeping the lights on, they can explore and express that what they’ve been holding back
I would imagine at E3 we will see Fable, Motorsport, Hellblade 2, and that Rare one. All with at least vague yearly dates. Plus a big presentation for Starfield. Then maybe a few from smaller studios. That should give us a better idea of the future, and a better Idea of what the X and S can really do.

Personally hoping Ori 3 gets announced.
 
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True, but I think Forza Motorsport may be the first showcase of what can be done with raytracing both visually and audibly for a nextgen title. Followed up by ninja theory’s titles and whatever the coalition may be doing.

Starfield, if it’s series x/s exclusive it’ll be another tent pole of a next Gen game could be. But again, with each new game from their respective studio, is just the beginning.

Studios like ninja theory, double fine, and compulsion will be the biggest risk takers, especially now that they don’t have to worry about keeping the lights on, they can explore and express that what they’ve been holding back
Starfield will be on PC too so not sure if that would hold anything back🤷‍♂️
 
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Gamepass is great in value and have lots of real games, idk what's happening in here lol
Is it really? I've gone over the damn thing many times and haven't found a single thing I want to play that I haven't played already, it may be a good value for you but just giving me a bunch of s*** I don't want doesn't make it a good value to me it's just a bunch of stuff. I'm not a big indie gamer and I buy too many games to have a bunch of old treasures just sitting there waiting to be played.
 
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Is it really? I've gone over the damn thing many times and haven't found a single thing I want to play that I haven't played already, it may be a good value for you but just giving me a bunch of s*** I don't want doesn't make it a good value to me it's just a bunch of stuff. I'm not a big indie gamer and I buy too many games to have a bunch of old treasures just sitting there waiting to be played.
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Is it really? I've gone over the damn thing many times and haven't found a single thing I want to play that I haven't played already, it may be a good value for you but just giving me a bunch of s*** I don't want doesn't make it a good value to me it's just a bunch of stuff. I'm not a big indie gamer and I buy too many games to have a bunch of old treasures just sitting there waiting to be played.


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Since they put all their eggs in gamepass basket, yes, they sure are lucky. But hey, lets play ignorant and pretend this 2 trillion company didn't invest in Xbox when it needed it.....wonder why....and then invested billions on the idea of a netflix for gaming, but sure, it is all fine that it isn't meeting targets because losing billions is a great way to turn a company in to a 2 trillion company.

What a f***ing idiot.
 
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Since they put all their eggs in gamepass basket, yes, they sure are lucky. But hey, lets play ignorant and pretend this 2 trillion company didn't invest in Xbox when it needed it.....wonder why....and then invested billions on the idea of a netflix for gaming, but sure, it is all fine that it isn't meeting targets because losing billions is a great way to turn a company in to a 2 trillion company.

What a f***ing idiot.
He's doing his job.
 
Since they put all their eggs in gamepass basket, yes, they sure are lucky. But hey, lets play ignorant and pretend this 2 trillion company didn't invest in Xbox when it needed it.....wonder why....and then invested billions on the idea of a netflix for gaming, but sure, it is all fine that it isn't meeting targets because losing billions is a great way to turn a company in to a 2 trillion company.

What a f***ing idiot.
Someone should ask him if Xbox would still be around if that division had to support itself and not just get money thrown at it from windows, office and other MS products.

The article he's referencing actually makes some pretty decent and obvious points, maybe that's why he's trying to knock it down a bit.
 
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God of war is coming to PC. Guess it no longer qualify in discussion for best game ever now.
 
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