PS4 surpasses 6 million units sold!
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Just talking about this earlier on G+. Incredible that it's surpassed the WiiU numbers already. Must be worrisome for Nintendo.
I did say have more consoles and a game to boost sales.
Either way, you won't sell a system on "system hype alone" forever. They still need that go to game. Every system has it, as did ps1 and ps2.
PS1 (Ridge Racer, FF)
PS2 (GTA)
Wii (Wii Sports)
Xbox (halo)
Sony needs that game to sustain some want to the system in the long run. If they get a lot of great games like the PS1 had, that would be alright too but that doesn't seem likely after last gen.
Either way, you won't sell a system on "system hype alone" forever. They still need that go to game. Every system has it, as did ps1 and ps2.
PS1 (Ridge Racer, FF)
PS2 (GTA)
Wii (Wii Sports)
Xbox (halo)
Sony needs that game to sustain some want to the system in the long run. If they get a lot of great games like the PS1 had, that would be alright too but that doesn't seem likely after last gen.
It's that 14 month on and later (was looking at a similar but more long term chart a few months ago) that is going to be the real climb. PS2 was really amazing in that period.
Also when you look at ps3 10 to 14 months, it kind of goes with what I said earlier.. that was ps3 and at a high price. PS4 could really have the best holiday period ever again (depending on one, price and games) and really propel it to a number never seen in year 1.
If MS hits 400, and has more game appeal, it could cut into that, right now though (500 vs 400) even with a pack in game... they are going to get drilled WW especially.
I do think MS will cut the price though. I'm banking on that pretty soon before the holidays.
I don't know. I think gamers today are more or less just going with the best all around console. Games still sell systems but i don't think there is any one, two, or three games that can put a console over the competition. Price, controller, online service, word of mouth. That's what sells consoles today. It worked for the 360, it'll work for the PS4.
I hope Sony does have the next big thing up their sleeve though because they're due. When you're talking about that though, you're pretty much talking about a first or third person shooter these days. So i doubt it. People will buy the PS4 because it's cheaper and has better third party games if that holds up. People don't want Kinect, that's hurting the One's image right now.
Yes a shooter, but I hope that idea can change. I miss the platformer and art style mixes. I want the good Crashes, Spyros or the new games equal to those. I really want the flight adventure games and the horror, KH etc to make a come back.
I know some of those have hit or coming, but I want the smaller guys to bring them out more frequently, never got a game like Sky Odyssey frequent enough. Use to get a lot of extreme sports games as well, we got one ssx... ah.
I want a AAA devotion to a Cartoony art style, last gen was very long and we got some of those games sure, but it tookk a long long time to get a few of them.
I know some of those have hit or coming, but I want the smaller guys to bring them out more frequently, never got a game like Sky Odyssey frequent enough. Use to get a lot of extreme sports games as well, we got one ssx... ah.
I want a AAA devotion to a Cartoony art style, last gen was very long and we got some of those games sure, but it tookk a long long time to get a few of them.
I think Sony had those console seller potential games last gen on the PS3 with Uncharted, Infamous, God of War, and LittleBigPlanet but people love online play now so long lasting multiplayer games will always be more important than the games i mentioned above. Sad but true. At the same time it makes sense. You're paying to play online regardless, it's obvious people want their money's worth.
If Sony or Microsoft ever got Call of Duty, Battlefield, or maybe even Titanfall as a true exclusive they'd pretty much win the gen in a landslide. That's just the way it is these days. If you're talking exclusives, Halo and Gears were really what won last gen for Microsoft. So where do you go from there? For Sony, they've always had solid exclusives but none of them ever stood out quite like a Mario or Halo for me. The PS brand has always been about the collection of awesome games.
Tekken 3 sold 8 million as a example, that trend has changed and I know. It's the new trend I don't like
Yeah, if Sony or MS really wanted to take out the other (they would need to spend atleast 400 million to do so) I guess...
They would need to get COD for a year or two exclusive. They would also need to put more funds into development to make sure the game is actually a step up for next-gen. If I was head of Sony, I'd just make that move honestly... and put millions of systems on the market near that time. It would sell to the opposing crowd in droves.
Destiny could be a pretty big push, I'm expecting the results to be a lot bigger than the current hype.
Yeah, if Sony or MS really wanted to take out the other (they would need to spend atleast 400 million to do so) I guess...
They would need to get COD for a year or two exclusive. They would also need to put more funds into development to make sure the game is actually a step up for next-gen. If I was head of Sony, I'd just make that move honestly... and put millions of systems on the market near that time. It would sell to the opposing crowd in droves.
Destiny could be a pretty big push, I'm expecting the results to be a lot bigger than the current hype.
They already have exclusives that do well, even if they don't post CoD type sales.
Chew on this, PS3 sold about the same as 360 with a year less on the market and a higher starting price point, and worse multiplats.
PS4 will do fine, and does NOT need a Halo/TF type game.
The metric you mostly banged on about was 3:1 mr logical science man.
Cheers for the pm btw
They will need it if the games are like last gen, my meaning, for near ps2 like sales.. if 3rd party isn't there like it wasn't last gen, they will need that game to push them later on. If they get the games, and more developers jump on the system, then no they won't.
You're just making predictions and assumptions.
What makes you think they won't have the games? They have a pretty strong lineup in the near future of both multiplats and exclusives. Keep in mind that PS3 exclusives scored very well.
Like I said, they managed to sell about as much as 360 at a higher price, worse multiplats and a year less on the market with the PS3.
This gen, they came out costing less, multiplats being better, and a nice varied lineup of games coming out. They don't need a Halo or TF. People are already mentally convincing themselves that PS4 is the console to have.
What, you think infamous and KZ are the only games PS4 will have? lol
The PS4 seems to be building a reputation as the place where the better versions of multiplatforms games appear. That is happening very early in the generation this time (vs. the 360 reputation, which took quite a long time to build, primarily because people expected the opposite). I think that will help Sony quite a bit, especially if that reputation further solidifies. Because then, it's not just about exclusives anymore, it's about whether people want the best version of all the big multiplatform titles coming this fall (e.g., Witcher 3, Destiny, Watch Dogs, Dragon Age 3, etc.). I think they'll be okay, because of that (also some good indie exclusives), although of course a big system-selling game is always a good thing.
Probably the 100's of studios that were closed
I usually feel like you just like to disagree with my opinion more than anything without accounting for what I like and want and leaving it at at that. Why would you say that last part though, that is not a very intelligent thing to say, obviously. Come on now... do better than that, let's keep it friendly and a little more realilstic.
Not really hyped for another GOW, Uncharted or LOU2 honestly, would love a IREM game... eh
Exclusive can be what separate 2 very similar consoles. But when you are quite a bit cheaper, & most games looks better on your console, executives are not really such a big factor, as they contribute a small % of total games.
Sales so far support this. Despite lacklaster exclusive lineup (both Killzone & Knack have medicore review scores), PS4 still sell like hot cake. I know there are some good indies, but lets be real, few people buy a new consoles for Indies.
Sales so far support this. Despite lacklaster exclusive lineup (both Killzone & Knack have medicore review scores), PS4 still sell like hot cake. I know there are some good indies, but lets be real, few people buy a new consoles for Indies.
Probably the 100's of studios that were closed
I usually feel like you just like to disagree with my opinion more than anything without accounting for what I like and want and leaving it at at that. Why would you say that last part though, that is not a very intelligent thing to say, obviously. Come on now... do better than that, let's keep it friendly and a little more realilstic.
Not really hyped for another GOW, Uncharted or LOU2 honestly, would love a IREM game... eh
Why's it not intelligent? Are you listening to what you're implying? You're suggesting that if PS4 doesn't have that killer exclusive like TF or Halo, that it won't do well.
it did well enough last gen on PS3 without that killer exclusive to still sell around the same as their cheaper competitor and costing more and performing worse. Now, both released at around the same time, we're seeing PS4 doing extrememly well, much much better than anticipated....and you're suggesting that without that killer exclusive, it won't continue to do well.
Seriously dude.
You said "do you think ps4 will only have" you don't even need to finish that sentence to see that it is irriational. Do you only feel Xbox will only have Titanfall, they will obviously have other games, not the ones I want potentially, some I will and some I will just feel is ok (obviously... as is with every gen. And you still don't understand me on many points so its pointless. It is the type of games I want, I already stated that, that is my own deal, my feel... sigh.
I already stated for them to perform near PS2 level they would need some bigger go to games as they potentially wont have the libarary of teh ps2. thats really hard when half those studios are no longer around.
I also said, IF the libarary is the same as the PS3's I didn't say it WILL be.
You are arguing me against my own opinion, it's rather strange. I think you are wrong Mr. Jackie, my opinion of them selling better with these games is just fine. That is fine, have your opinion. NOTHING wrong with that.
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I think it was really obvious that I was being sarcastic.
Also, we're not talking about selling PS2 levels, we're just talking about it selling extremely well. You said it needs that "big" game to sell well in the long run....and PS3 prooved that theory to be false. it just needs a lot of smaller good games.
The problem with that "big" game, is that it only caters to some, while a bunch of hot titles that don't sell as well but target a larger audience also does well. THat is why I bring up Halo 4 sales. Sure, on it's own, Halo 4 sold better than most exclusives, but it caters to the minority, and xbox seems to make a bunch of exclusives that cater to the same'ish group.
PS4 exclusives may not sell as well, but they are so varied, that they cater to more.
This is why PS3 did so well while costing more and being out a year less. Not everyone is a bro-gamer looking for CoD, Halo, Gears or TF.
In the end, most people that game just want good games at a value. I know it's just your opinion, I'm just saying, think outside of the internet gaming box. There's a reason why PS4 is doing so well.
Guys, we've been so off, it's actually 6 billion units sold.
http://www.bidnessetc.com/21190-son...e-war-with-sales-of-six-billion-units-so-far/
http://www.bidnessetc.com/21190-son...e-war-with-sales-of-six-billion-units-so-far/
Good luck catching up MS. Maybe rethink that Japan launch. You gunna need those 1000 sales from there.
I'm not sure sony would even agree that the ps3 sold so well.
You have to remember time frames as well. PS2 sold over 100 million in around 5 plus years.
Took PS3 8 years and it still isnt near that. Sold well, sure, sold to sony's expectations, not at all.
Again, Sony needs that go to "gta" game to be on ps2 level of sales (if they don't have the abundance and release schedule of those past systems from third partys.
And, I'd still like more Twisted Metal's, Jumping Flash etc etc type games. I do hope sony re visits games again that didn't meet expectations..