Official Thread Quantum Break
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Now I'm getting uncomfortable.
Let's go back to arguing. I need some distance in this relationship.
Back to arguing, well make up sex is the best...
So very true. QFT. Word. +1.
Case in point, I'm playing 7 Days to Die, and although it's a buggy mess and probably deserves the poor scores, those same reviews be damned as the game is a whole lot of fun. Had my friends and I took those reviews to heart, we would have missed out on this little gem, rough-cut though it may be.
Everyone has an opinion and the freedom (at least in this part of the world) to share that opinion in the form of a review, even when poorly supported by facts or reason or good taste. Except for Jeff Gerstmann, who, in my opinion, needs to go sell vacuum cleaners.
Good take. I've really lost touch with what the mainstream reviews are attempting to accomplish. Is it bias for their favorite piece of plastic? Pandering to the masses?... (as the larger base equals more clicks). Pushing for the games and genres that they like and against those they've grown tired of?
Either way, it's a good practice to ignore scores and even summaries. Games are really subjective and it's difficult to stay objective. That's why I think certain reviewers should be assigned to certain genres and people that are on podcasts saying they're sick of Microsoft's focus on games with guns shouldn't be reviewing Microsoft exclusives that have guns in them.
I only started trying to find gaming podcasts for my long commutes recently and I haven't found many mainstream podcasts that have anything good to say about the games I like. Even IGNs dedicated Xbox podcast has a hard time not bringing up Persona.
Maybe some people just have different opinions? Why does everyone have to have an agenda?
Also QB didn't get mediocre reviews so you expecting it to be mediocre based on reviews makes no sense.
No doubt people have different opinions...but when the trends of those opinions are so far off from the vast majority of the user-base those opinions are intended to guide, it's worth asking "why".
Me. I have opinions too.
People can have an opinion about the opinions of others. Who is the authority to say who's the ultimate authority? Some of the prententious reviewers have pulled assertions out of their asses with little to back it up so I think it's perfectly fine to speculate.
I still remember the Game Informer review where they gave Kung Fu Chaos one of their lowest scores of the year partially because it was racist. If they can say that a team of developers were racist without much to back it up, I can have my opinions about them too.
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How come you have the power to speak for the "majority of the user base"?
What are you basing any of this on? Are you claiming QB is considered by the majority to be an all time classic? Because even the QB thread here suggest a game that is well liked but hardly universally loved. Your own title of this thread only calls the game "solid" so are the reviews really so far off?
How does one explain the great reviews for games like Forza and Ori? Did the Xbox Worldwide Haters Council forget to send out the memos to take those games down? And what about PS or Nintendo exclusives that review poorly? Why didn't they get automatic 10s?
I have the power to speak for myself and I did. My opinions are based on my observations of 35 years of gaming and reading reviews. They're just opinions. I haven't requested Forbes to publish my opinion as fact (like they often do).
The only thing I really glean from reviews are are if the fundamentals of the game are solid (are the controls busted, wonky collision detection, busted camera, etc...) and if there are any real changes to the game in respect to it's genre that might lift it/lower it amongst it's peers. I know what type of games I like so I'm not worried if I'm really going to have an issue on that front. Reviewers opinions are for the most part secondary.
Don't close it because of a few f***os. Those who loved the game should be able to come here and discuss it without being thrashed about it. Fuk that! Mods, do your job! Put an end to this bulls***. We have every right to have a positive and rational discussion.
EDIT: For those who didn't enjoy the game, perhaps go and make a thread about it. Leave this one be. Thanks.
EDIT: For those who didn't enjoy the game, perhaps go and make a thread about it. Leave this one be. Thanks.
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Seems like the discussion is exactly what it should be based on the first post. Of course Mcmasters has another meltdown over nothing. I haven't seen anything or anyone being "thrashed"
If you want a purely QB discussion thread though you can find one right here
http://unionvgf.com/index.php?threads/quantum-break-v-2.136243/
If you want a purely QB discussion thread though you can find one right here
http://unionvgf.com/index.php?threads/quantum-break-v-2.136243/
Sorry, Marty, it's not the mod's job to make sure everyone keeps their opinion in line.
We'll that's good to know. Perhaps I'll hop on over the the PS threads and share my opinions - seeing as how I can expect little to no recourse. Sweet!
You're all right by me Andy, I don't care what they say about you, bruh.
KVALLY, tell em what you said, yo..
You need a little prospective here, dude. You tend to have these mini melt downs anytime someone has a contradicting opinion. A good discussion needs to have different view points. Yes, there are going to be trolls but it's not like you're new to the internet. Just ignore them. It's easy to do.
First, you don't know s*** about me. Second, it's not about contradicting opinions. I deal with those on the regular. I respect opinions that are not of my own.
My plight comes from EVERY Xbox thread with positive news turns into a Fuking spew spit with the comparisons, and someone bringa up Sony in some form or another. Anything Xbox gets down played. Concern trolling and MS bashing typically takes front row when it would be nice if JUST ONCE we can have a discussion where games or hardware we discuss wouldn't be overrun with insecure fanboy on the regular. What some of us would like here in Xbox threads, Sony fans enjoy on a much more consistent basis. I'm looking for some equality. That's it. Don't assume to know anything about me from my posts. lol. WTF?
ON TOPIC: Gonna play QB on hard mode this weekend. Haven't even touched that yet.
None of those things actually happened here. You are the only being insecure.
And the insecurity started over TD. If you are offended by TD's gimmick then you need to take a look in the mirror. He isn't being serious.
Was going to say, of course it did. First page everyone said they enjoyed the game, including myself who rated the OP accordingly with the agree rating and then i gave my opinion on the reviews that everyone complained about. The thread was never fully just a QB appreciation thread, it had an ulterior motive of bringing up the supposed bias of the industry against Xbox. No way any of the mediocre reviews can hold water, it's all just a grand conspiracy.
I forgot my opinions only count when i'm wearing green though. Duly noted. Ya'll might think it's a persona or a gimmick but 90% of my core posting has remained the same, with a joke thrown in here and there. Anyway, don't see what the big deal was. When games like The Order 1886 came out the same was done in that thread and nobody had a meltdown to this degree. I guess i'll just stick to the PS section from now on. Have fun circle jerking amongst yourselfs. All 6 of you. Like we have a huge community to begin with. This is child's play over at GAF.
There wasn't a hidden agenda with the original intent of this thread. Like so many debates these days, people take the most extreme stance on everything. QB was a surpringly solid game and the 60% ratings seem hard to justify from any standpoint. Even if this wasn't my genre and I hated sci-fi, I would've been able to objectively say there's a lot of high quality aspects to this game if my job was to evaluate games. If someone said this game was boring or didn't keep their interest, it would be a valid opinion. If my job is to rate games and I was playing a new game with some unique gameplay aspects, high production values and there was no game breaking issues with the controls, I can't figure out how that equals 60%...which means crap on every scale.
What am I trying to say? My original statement was simply a reaction. Beyond that there are plenty of topics it could lead into.
Saying that I question the review methods is not the same thing as saying I believe there's some giant grand conspiracy. Jeff G at Giant Bomb has never struck me as grossly anti-Xbox and I've read many of his reviews since the OG Xbox days. I think he's entertaining and offers good insight too. He does admit that he's fatigued by Microsoft's obsession with guns and cars and his sentiment isn't unique. That shouldn't stop him, Gamespot or anyone else from being professional and giving each developer a fair review regardless of who's publishing it and which platform it's on.
I do think many genres, developers, publishers are favorites and they get leeway and free passes. Others get no leeway. Do rooting interest play a part in that? I think so.
What am I trying to say? My original statement was simply a reaction. Beyond that there are plenty of topics it could lead into.
Saying that I question the review methods is not the same thing as saying I believe there's some giant grand conspiracy. Jeff G at Giant Bomb has never struck me as grossly anti-Xbox and I've read many of his reviews since the OG Xbox days. I think he's entertaining and offers good insight too. He does admit that he's fatigued by Microsoft's obsession with guns and cars and his sentiment isn't unique. That shouldn't stop him, Gamespot or anyone else from being professional and giving each developer a fair review regardless of who's publishing it and which platform it's on.
I do think many genres, developers, publishers are favorites and they get leeway and free passes. Others get no leeway. Do rooting interest play a part in that? I think so.