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The largest market of all. Planet earth.

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They are going to be fine. They are selling just fine. Just because they aren't selling as fast as the Sony console doesn't mean they aren't doing well.

There are a lot of good/great games out and coming.

I know you have an over-inflated view of yourself, but there is plenty to like about the Xbox platform, even it doesn't appeal to you personally.

Perhaps you should just go back and have a jerk-fest with your Playstation.

You look sad, but just to make you feel better I will say that your immense taste and intelligence has been confirmed via your choice of the Superior Gaming Device, chosen by millions upon millions of other likewise mentally gifted, individual flowers of immense cognitive ability. Congratulations on your purchase. May the Order's magnificence shine on you!

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I don't see MS cracking 50 million units by that time though. They're a cake with crappy ingredients at this point. It's not going to turn out well.
The same thing could be said about last gen 360's success was directly tied to Sony's f***-up with PS3. Sony gave the market to MS and ended up closing the gap @ the end (which is a success in itself) but that was big blow to their original forecasts of how PS3 would dominate PS2s #s. So by another person's definition it could be the greatest f%&*-up in console history?

This whole industry is fluid and @ some point PS4 sales will slow down. @ that point expect the price drop but to keep preaching to us there will be geometric/exponential growth in PS4 sales all gen long is laughable. You are no expert at claiming anything. People will purchase a console @ the right price for 1 game and when xb1 has 10 @ the lower price point expect the sales to stay strong.
 
MS is basically on pace to lose marketshare by 10 million units per year. If by 2020, the Xbox One is sitting at 80 million units sold and the PS4 is sitting at 100 million units sold, the consider it phenomenal sailing by MS. I don't see MS cracking 50 million units by that time though. They're a cake with crappy ingredients at this point. It's not going to turn out well.



Both Gears (a 2016 or 2017 title) and Halo (a 2015 title) are going to be dwarfed by Uncharted 4 when it releases this year. Not because the game will necessarily be better but because there will be close to 20 million more PS4's out in the wild by the time Uncharted 4/Halo 5 comes out.
Let's try and not forget that the Xbox One LOST MARKETSHARE last November and December. People tend to forget that fact around here.
There's H.G. Wells and then....there's you, THL. You're far better a science fiction than he is! Bravo!
 
If you own two, your probably rubbing yourself with peanut butter... DidIdothatright?
if one of the 2 is a PC I think? Also it is lathering yourself up in the butter. Keep the peanuts in the gradeschools...
 
I'm just saying that if you buy 90% of the third party games on one system for obvious reasons, then the lack of exclusives stands out more on the other. If you just own one then you're buying all the games on one.
 
The same thing could be said about last gen 360's success was directly tied to Sony's f***-up with PS3. Sony gave the market to MS and ended up closing the gap @ the end (which is a success in itself) but that was big blow to their original forecasts of how PS3 would dominate PS2s #s. So by another person's definition it could be the greatest f%&*-up in console history?

This whole industry is fluid and @ some point PS4 sales will slow down. @ that point expect the price drop but to keep preaching to us there will be geometric/exponential growth in PS4 sales all gen long is laughable. You are no expert at claiming anything. People will purchase a console @ the right price for 1 game and when xb1 has 10 @ the lower price point expect the sales to stay strong.

Exactly. Microsoft needs those types of games. I don't think price point is a major issue right now.
 
I'm just saying that if you buy 90% of the third party games on one system for obvious reasons, then the lack of exclusives stands out more on the other. If you just own one then you're buying all the games on one.
I'm content with current offerings to be certain. I dont have nearly enough time to game anymore so just owning one is ideal. I'll be taking a holiday in the near future so probably then I'll see about another console. Exec is buying a production studio in L.A. this year so I'll have both consoles in my office! He doesnt know it yet, but he will. lol.
 
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My comments are not centered around sales. But obviosly the more great games you have will help sales.
I'm just saying in general Microsoft needs to pick it up. I doubt that Phil would even disagree.
 
Exactly. Microsoft needs those types of games. I don't think price point is a major issue right now.
that is subjective though for me GOTY went to titanfall. No other multiplayer FPS was/is as intense.
 
that is subjective though for me GOTY went to titanfall. No other multiplayer FPS was/is as intense.

The game is boring to me. Played a total of a few hours max and couldn't get myself to play it anymore.

Destiny has been the best next-gen game for me. Just find myself going back there on a daily basis because of the community I've built with some other random people that I've never met before. No other game has made me do that. I now have plenty of other companions to play with everyday to do raids, weeklies, strikes, crucible/PvP's, helping others with theirs and seeing what loot they get. Phenomenal what Bungie has managed to attempt to make. Social and clan features can still be vastly improved but they say it's a 10 year game and so far, I'm all in.
 
My comments are not centered around sales. But obviosly the more great games you have will help sales.
I'm just saying in general Microsoft needs to pick it up. I doubt that Phil would even disagree.
I think they've been doing a bang up job with what we've had on tap thusfar. Perhaps my not being able to play as much and greatly appreciate the times I do, have something to do with that. Not really sure how much else they could do at this point other than keep em coming. Plus, its not just gaming but current apps and updates I look forward too as well. There's just so much confusion and misinformation to over come for Microsoft this gen. So regardless of how many titles they release, each one will have to climb a hill of preconceived negativity to truly be recognized. But there are plenty titles released already that are just very solid offerings. In actuality, it can only get better from where I sit.
 
The game is boring to me. Played a total of a few hours max and couldn't get myself to play it anymore.

Destiny has been the best next-gen game for me. Just find myself going back there on a daily basis because of the community I've built with some other random people that I've never met before. No other game has made me do that. I now have plenty of other companions to play with everyday to do raids, weeklies, strikes, crucible/PvP's, helping others with theirs and seeing what loot they get. Phenomenal what Bungie has managed to attempt to make. Social and clan features can still be vastly improved but they say it's a 10 year game and so far, I'm all in.

That's why it's subjective. Destiny bored me to tears.

But I can appreciate what they've created for you and millions of other fans.
 
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That's why it's subjective. Destiny bored me to tears.

But I can appreciate what they've created for you and millions of other fans.

Did you play with any UnionVGF members? Social is what makes part of the game fun but I can understand how it can be quite grinding for others.
 
I think they've been doing a bang up job with what we've had on tap thusfar. Perhaps my not being able to play as much and greatly appreciate the times I do, have something to do with that. Not really sure how much else they could do at this point other than keep em coming. Plus, its not just gaming but current apps and updates I look forward too as well. There's just so much confusion and misinformation to over come for Microsoft this gen. So regardless of how many titles they release, each one will have to climb a hill of preconceived negativity to truly be recognized. But there are plenty titles released already that are just very solid offerings. In actuality, it can only get better from where I sit.

Clearly everyone is out to get Microsoft.

That's why it's subjective. Destiny bored me to tears.

But I can appreciate what they've created for you and millions of other fans.

Its a solid shooter but I am surprised that so many people are still playing it. I don't know why people wouldn't just play a real MMO if they want that type of game. Destiny just doesn't have the content to justify that amount of grinding.
 
I think they've been doing a bang up job with what we've had on tap thusfar. Perhaps my not being able to play as much and greatly appreciate the times I do, have something to do with that. Not really sure how much else they could do at this point other than keep em coming. Plus, its not just gaming but current apps and updates I look forward too as well. There's just so much confusion and misinformation to over come for Microsoft this gen. So regardless of how many titles they release, each one will have to climb a hill of preconceived negativity to truly be recognized. But there are plenty titles released already that are just very solid offerings. In actuality, it can only get better from where I sit.

Maybe I'm being too critical? Sunset Overdrive was a nice new IP. As was Titanfall. Even though it wasn't a favorite.

Hopefully E3 will give me more of what I'm looking for.
 
The gameplay just never grabbed me. It feels like an mmo with a fps mod.

Yeah that's pretty much what it is. The gameplay mechanics and different weapons are what makes the game so unique and fun for me. If I may ask, what level did you get to before quitting? After 20 is where the real game opens up. Access to legendary, exotic gear, raids, strikes, PvP is where the game shines.
 
Yeah that's pretty much what it is. The gameplay mechanics and different weapons are what makes the game so unique and fun for me. If I may ask, what level did you get to before quitting? After 20 is where the real game opens up. Access to legendary, exotic gear, raids, strikes, PvP is where the game shines.

Honestly I didn't give much of a chance. Maybe down the road after a price drop. It's just a different game than what I'm used to from Bungie. Nothing wrong with that. I just didn't feel it.
 
Honestly I didn't give much of a chance. Maybe down the road after a price drop. It's just a different game than what I'm used to from Bungie. Nothing wrong with that. I just didn't feel it.

I recommend getting to at least finishing your first raid before making the final verdict on the game. Destiny is something special that should be experienced at that level.
 
The game is boring to me. Played a total of a few hours max and couldn't get myself to play it anymore.

Destiny has been the best next-gen game for me. Just find myself going back there on a daily basis because of the community I've built with some other random people that I've never met before. No other game has made me do that. I now have plenty of other companions to play with everyday to do raids, weeklies, strikes, crucible/PvP's, helping others with theirs and seeing what loot they get. Phenomenal what Bungie has managed to attempt to make. Social and clan features can still be vastly improved but they say it's a 10 year game and so far, I'm all in.
I'm still on destiny daily since launch but the crucible is untouched since it doesn't hold a candle to titanfall.
 
I'm still on destiny daily since launch but the crucible is untouched since it doesn't hold a candle to titanfall.

I actually like the crucible more than the MP in TF simply because of the different kinds of variety and loadouts you can play with. TF feels like the same old thing after like 5 games but because of the different class/sub-classes in Destiny, there's just so much more variety. With Bungie's constant update to the game, it changes the game's meta although hand cannons are still my favourite to use. Also new events with new gear such as Iron Banner, Inferno, Trials of Osiris sound promising.
 
Clearly everyone is out to get Microsoft.



Its a solid shooter but I am surprised that so many people are still playing it. I don't know why people wouldn't just play a real MMO if they want that type of game. Destiny just doesn't have the content to justify that amount of grinding.

Because that's exactly what I meant, good job. It's so much more entertaining to succumb to clumsy theories than logic. Nobel prize to you. Your fantastic.

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Because that's exactly what I meant, good job. It's so much more entertaining to succumb to clumsy theories than logic. Nobel prize to you. Your fantastic.

:yspooked:

Hey I felt bad for the little guys. Having to overcome such unfair negativity from everything they do? Must be rough.
 
Good. Good for you, champ. Maybe you can have a statue build in your honor for your courageous efforts for the little guys everywhere. Wouldn't that be delightful?

Can I put the statue on top of a hill of preconceived negativity?
 
I just want to see more exclusives than what we're getting. It seems like neither were really prepared for next gen. But I assumed that with their first party efforts really drying up the couple of years on 360, that there would simply be more stuff shifted to X1. It's been a slow start for both.

I don't know... I think both had pretty solid starts. Xbox a little bit better in terms of having games that aren't on the competing consoles of the same gen (at least for my interests). Forza 5, Titanfall, Killer Instinct, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, etc. -- all solid games. All games that I would put on my "best games of the gen thus far" list (all except for Forza 5).

I don't want to give it away but I know of one exclusive coming this year to the Xbox One that should make people who had a 360 pretty happy. Overall, MS is still saving some 2015 stuff for E3. I think you will be happy by the end of the year. If not then you can get mad at me and say I lied :)

2015 will be a solid year for all three consoles. The only console that will probably be worse in 2015 is the Wii U but that's because the system had Kart and Smash in 2014. I'm pumped for Splatoon and Zelda.
 
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