Sony has purchased Bungie - Their Final Shape
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No, that’s a rental service. You need HookerPass for $69 a month, you’ll save a ton.
If nothing were going to change, Phil could say that without any problem. But until it's been approved through all the regulatory nonsense, he can't come out and say "Activision will not publish for PlayStation" because he doesn't have that authority yet and there's probably some legal issues involved there. I imagine the prudent thing to do in any case is to say for any scenario like this is "Until this acquisition is complete, we can not comment on this" but thankfully the guys at MS and Sony care enough that they'll give us more information.
I'm of the exact opposite opinion - Sony didn't overpay, MS didn't overpay. They've got different strategic plans and are making their purchases for different reasons.
My thoughts are that Sony's acquisition is because they feel like they can make more money back on Bungie's games than the purchase price plus operating expenses, etc. It also gives them an internal studio with the experience in building out an online service and game at the scale that Destiny is at, which I don't think they have. That seems like a fairly good bet - and while the price was possibly higher than the company is valued at, if they make the kind of money they likely project, it'll be a win for them.
MS is all about GamePass, and adding Bethesda's catalog and future games and keeping them off of other consoles means you'll necessarily be playing them on Xbox or PC. And if you're already going to be playing them there, MS is betting that with enough critical mass of studios and games that players might be interested in, someone who may be a Fallout fan or a Diablo fan may see other stuff in GP that's interesting and buy into that ecosystem. They're not looking to make profit from studios, they're looking to drive gamers into GamePass.
I like this move for Sony. I am disappointed they'll finally be taking Destiny multiplatform after it having been a Sony exclusive all this time (man, that joke never was funny and yet I love it).
This is about pushing microtransactions instead of hardware. People are still thinking in terms of hardware. You still can't find a next gen console anywhere. This is about software and specifically microtransactions, which is worth tons and tons of money.
There's no good indicator on how much Bungie makes on microtransactions, but every week their store refreshes with $8-10 dollar items. Destiny is one of the most played games on all platforms.
What if the console wars just ended when everyone decided that something else was more important? We're going to see Sony software on Xbox, and vice versa (and everything on PC anyway).
What if Sony wants to make a Game Pass equivalent and put all of Destiny on there? That would be huge, just like COD going on Game Pass will be huge for Xbox, all without any exclusivity.
There's no good indicator on how much Bungie makes on microtransactions, but every week their store refreshes with $8-10 dollar items. Destiny is one of the most played games on all platforms.
What if the console wars just ended when everyone decided that something else was more important? We're going to see Sony software on Xbox, and vice versa (and everything on PC anyway).
What if Sony wants to make a Game Pass equivalent and put all of Destiny on there? That would be huge, just like COD going on Game Pass will be huge for Xbox, all without any exclusivity.
This is almost certain IMO. One of the reasons I'm waiting on purchasing all the content for one of my consoles.
Neither of those are huge without exclusivity. Gamepass already did Destiny and it didn't seem to have any real impact.
Failed to meet expectations and turned into F2P isn't really selling that
Destiny isn't really free to play. I mean it really is free to try. Once you dig into the game more than a little, you hit a paywall. They call it f2p, but it essentially isn't. Anyone playing semi-regularly is buying a major DLC once a year along with multiple seasons. Many of us just dropped $100 on the game to get the 30th Anniversary stuff + the new DLC + all the seasons.
It is very much like WoW where you can level up to 20 for free and try things out.
Funny enough, it was the crucible that only kept me coming back for more, lol. Love the gameplay and certain guns and it feels good to slay in a 6v6 match. I played mainly for trials on the weekends. That was something nice to look forward to.
I never cared much for the PvE part outside of Destiny 1 raid content that gave you certain good PvE guns.
Thorn/last word/good 150/180rpm hc's paired with a shotgun/sniper is where it's at.
How do you tell what has an impact on game pass? when games are put on the service years after release it's hard to expect them to move the needle especially when brand new games don't really do that.
Who's expectations? Being valued at $2 billion when you only have one game going is pretty damned good, yeah Sony paid an extra $1.6 but if Bungie were flailing so badly they wouldn't even be worth a billion dollars. MS paid around $10 billion more for activision than they were valued at and I believe Zenimax was valued at around $5 billion when MS paid $7.5 so yeah it seems like everyone overpays.
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By looking at sub milestones.
Exactly. The idea of a service like this is all about exclusives. The more you have the more appealing it becomes. Why do you think PS Now struggles with only like 3 million users? If Sony put their exclusives in their day 1 PS Now would grow rapidly.
I doubt they would do that. PS Now could probably carve out a decent sub base with a better back catalog of games which is what I assume Sony will end up doing with its relaunch. Weird thing there in relation to Bungie is they don't really even bring anything to the table for that.
For people who don't play Destiny, there's kind of a content mess right now. People jumping into the game right now have no clue what to buy. There's multiple DLCs, some which have been turned off, others not. There's seasonal content that may or may not have something you want to play. If you were to jump in today, the answer to "what would I need to buy" is not an easy question.
It is super confusing and hard to follow. People even ask in our Destiny thread here and I still have no idea what people need. Putting all that content into a Game Pass equivalent would be huge. Throw in some PS exclusives and other games and you've got yourself a nice service (hypotetically). You still leave everything on other platforms the "old" way just fine too.
It is super confusing and hard to follow. People even ask in our Destiny thread here and I still have no idea what people need. Putting all that content into a Game Pass equivalent would be huge. Throw in some PS exclusives and other games and you've got yourself a nice service (hypotetically). You still leave everything on other platforms the "old" way just fine too.
If you expect old games to move a needle when they come to game pass you have unrealistic expectations and it's a silly point to try to make, that beyond light expansion was a year old by the time it was released on game pass, the people who wanted it were already playing it so how much of an impact do you realistically think it should make? old games on GP are basically filler. PS Now isn't trying to be game pass so that's also another irrelevant point to make, they aren't pushing that as their primary way to play games the way Xbox does.
Yeah and Bungie bought their way out of it and went on to be very successful, do you know what Activisions expectations were? were they realistic? is that company known for being fair? I'm not a huge bungie fan, this deal does nothing for me one way or the other but I see no need to downplay it especially if it had been MS who bought it I think some of you would be singing a different tune but I'm also not excited about it either it just is what it is. This changes nothing for anyone, if you like the game you get to keep playing it no matter what platform you are on, this is just a long-term investment.
I don't agree. I think PS Now is very much trying to be Gamepass which is a subscription service aiming for an ever larger amount of members for recurring revenue. Its just that Sony is not trying to match Gamepass by putting its exclusives on their service because they sell way too well. I think that's why we've been hearing about Sony at work on another Gamepass like competitor with a tiered system which might and emphasis on might offer day 1 exclusive games access.