The Witcher 3 1080p/30fps PS4|900p/30fps XBO
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Firstly, I never said PS4 is the better platform. I am just saying when a developer said they are proud to reach parity, how other way do you interpret it other than parity is the target, which is enforced or at least trying to be enforced.
I am perfectly fine if they said that the difference is so little that there is no meaningful disparity, or they unable to make any meaningful visuals or performance upgrade from one version to the next, as the performance is so close. Or along these line.
My point is not about if the platforms are close in performance hence the parity, but rather if parity is a bullet point which they work toward, instead of a natural end result of indistinguish performance differences.
My comments have nothing to do with any platform able to reach certain targets. If X1 can outperform PS4 or many high end PC, say 60fps, then by all means push for it. I do not get butthurt if one version outperform another, or all version runs the same. My comments is directed if parity is force rather than natural, & I do not free its the right way to do it, unless the performance are closer enough. It may be the case, but that point was never clarified.
To answer your question, of course X1, or PS4 or more PCs can reach 1080p or higher and run smooth is good news.
Anyway, I explained my comments in my last post.
In a nutshell
Forced Parity->Disapprove
Natural Parity->Approve
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I don't think CD Projekt is aiming for parity or anything of the sort here. Honestly to me it sounds like they are trying to push each platform to its limits while retaining adequate performance. Sounds like they already have the PS4 version where they want it. If they spend a little extra time trying to get more performance out of the XB1 version I'm okay with that. I do get what you are saying though and pretty much agree.
Just so we're clear. If the dev's have to do a little extra work on the X1 version to get 1080p , then that is forced parity? Or they should make the PS4 version 1080p /60 fps so there isn't parity at all, aside from that of PC?
Forced parity would be limiting one platform to a lower platforms performance. That is not the case here, in fact Xbox One version is currently 900p; though the game is unfinished, and therefore could reach 1080p.
I don't get what you're talking about. How is that "forced"?
Not once in that vid did they mention res so I stand buy what I said they only said they have parity between both. So that's bull and I will not be called a liar I was not aware of this article. But in this article it dose state right now the xbox is 900 p but that can change. So before you call someone dishonest please get your facts strait VaLLisnce. Also it's funny that you skip the first part that says that its an early version of the game so before you call someone out learn to read polish!!!
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I guess the question is, who says that its forced? Maybe everything evovled naturally?
Each platform will have its advantages. I don't see what's been forced.
It's nice that they are still working on the Xbox One in that regard. Who knows, maybe they'll get it up to 1080 or just higher than 900p. But if not, that's not a disaster. Personally i have not been able to directly compare the two resolutions before, but plenty of people tell me you barely see any difference anyway on a 50 inch tv, and only if you sit really close you'll see it. But my seating distance is more than 2,5 meters. Time will tell what the final resolution will be and what other graphical differences there may be. Not that it will matter much, cause the only current gen console i have is Xbox One anyway. That said..judging that picture in the OP, i do prefer the X1 look, what can i say....i like the 'black crush' look i guess. 
I never mentioned once that X1 is the lower denominator. I never mention anything like that. Did I even mentioned X1 cannot reach 1080p? Did I mention X1 cannot be as good as PS4 or even better.
We can look for hints if actually X1 or PS4 is not the lowest denominator & what's not, for sure. By all means X1 is close to knocking the door on 1080p, who knows, maybe release a few bottle neck. I can also explain it may not be the case, but thats not my point.
My point is, if parity is a target? My point is I feel parity should not be enforce. I do not discount that the performance maybe close enough that it makes no differences if they put parity as a bullet point on their powerpoint slide. It's a different question.
They probably phrased it that way because in the end, performance matters to a lot of people. Customers.
As Pravus said, if one platform was held back, that would be an issue. They're trying to bring Xbox "up" to spec.
It was not mentioned, & I never dismissed it could be natural.
According to the developer saying he was proud to reach parity across platform or consoles. The deduction is whether parity is a 'target', & they are reaching (or reached) the target. Why would he be proud of reaching parity unless it is a target.
Like I said many times, I NEVER dismiss it maybe a natural parity, but the comment from the producer seems to suggest it was a target. Whether it become natural I do not know, he never clarify.
Most people expected both platforms to be at 900P. Why wouldn't they be proud of reaching full HD on both?
I would be proud, but that is not what he said. He said he was proud of platform parity. He did not said he was proud that both version runs at 1080p.
I give a car analogy. If the chief designer said, "I am proud that both cars are able to reach 130mph.
Would you not interpreted that that 130mph is one of their target! Whether if the cars actually performing similar is another question.
Now " I am proud that we achieve platform parity.
Would you not deduce parity is a target (at the minimum). Whether the platform are similar in power is another question.
Maybe 'Force' is a poor choice of word I used earlier, but a parity as a target surely would make sense right (see car analogy).
Is what I am trying to explain that hard to understand. *Sigh* The Living tribunal seems to be the only one that understand what I am trying to say. At least one is better then zero.
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"On the Xbox One, traditionally, harder to achieve the same result, hence the reduced resolution - up to 900p. However, this is not yet the final verdict, because CD Projekt RED - though they could not promise anything - try to get the same result on both consoles. Are efforts will take effect, we will see in a few months."
You said "Nothing is lost in translation I was born in Lublin Poland English is my second language. He clearly states that they achived party on consals. End of story"
You're a great poster Starseeker. I just think you're reading too much into what was said.
If the Xbox One version indeed runs at 900P/30, would you feel satisfied that both platforms were pushed to their limit?
If both run at 1080P/30, why would that opinion change?
If the Xbox One version indeed runs at 900P/30, would you feel satisfied that both platforms were pushed to their limit?
If both run at 1080P/30, why would that opinion change?
And I think they are being pushed. While he accuses CDPR of something that they're not known for based on info that may or may not even be true.
Not often do I agree with you, but but yeah, thats a short way to put it, Thanks.
so 2 persons understand what I am trying to say, improvement from 1.
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Actually I do not want to post more, but I need to clarify I am not accusing them. I am just questioning if they indeed do, and if so, then I will be a bit disappointed. I hope they do not.
Cheers.
I would question other examples more so.
I don't think CD has done this but I definitely think others have.
I think I started to sound drunk, I can't even make out my last post without reading twice.
Anyway, like I said, all next gen platform owners & PC gamers get to play Witcher 3 at min of 900p (with 1080p a high possibility) . Thats what matters most.
Anyway, like I said, all next gen platform owners & PC gamers get to play Witcher 3 at min of 900p (with 1080p a high possibility) . Thats what matters most.
Well your initial post did come across as accusatory.
As a PS4 owner, I want it to be pushed as well. But power is not the only factor. Time and money comes into play when adding bells and whistles to one version over the other.
If so, then I apologise.
CD Projekt is one of my favorite developers, so I have higher expectation, which may explain my disappointment (if true of course).
For the console versions I wonder why they are going to maintain a solid 30fps in some of the open areas.
Low/mid LODs seems very apparent from the very little gameplay I seen latest one) , so I guess that's how they maintain decent framerates. LODs are pain in the s to made though, other than foliage which normally shipped with LODs (if they use third party solution like speedtrees)