Uncharted 4 1080p and targeting 60fps
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If there's a specific post you think is trolling, please report it. That's the main way you can help. If the post is, in fact, trolling, a mod will take action. I checked the report rolls for this thread, and the only people reporting were Intellivision and consolewarz, reporting on each other, lol. So, it's fine to complain, that's certainly your right, but if you want to actually do something constructive, report posts that you think are trolling and/or personal attacks.
Mods are appointed because they tend not to be the type of person who would closely read and follow a thread like this, i.e., nearly 200 posts of spec/console warrior arguments about a game that won't be released for over a year. So, unless you report it, it's unlikely that it will be noticed or addressed by a mod.
1080/60, playing and recorded from a PS4, real-time rendering as far as sources go.
I hope that it is real time "gameplay". But I have my doubts. Which is healthy and not hating or trollish.
If anyone's can pull it off, it's Naughty Gods. But I don't think we should take any of these companies at their word automatically.
I think it may be something like Ryse where a cinematic scene is being rendered real time possibly with extra effects, then transitions into gameplay with minimal difference in fidelity.
If anyone's can pull it off, it's Naughty Gods. But I don't think we should take any of these companies at their word automatically.
I think it may be something like Ryse where a cinematic scene is being rendered real time possibly with extra effects, then transitions into gameplay with minimal difference in fidelity.
We don't know yet since there haven't been any gameplay yet. We only have Corrinne Yu saying it's playing and rendering real-time on a PS4 and recorded as so. I understand some people having some doubts since this has never been possible before but we can only wait and see for now.
Agreed yeah, report the trolling, where is it yoyo?I love certain sony games, anything ICO especially, but it just kinda makes you wonder when certain gamers only like everything under a sony or MS logo, and hate on anything under the other logo. I'm sure its pure coincidence. lol, but yeah those ppl are the first to cry troll because their emotionally invested.
I'll be happy if that's the case. But as you say, we'll have to wait and see.
I'm just done buying into the bullcrap until I see the results in action. Look at Turn 10/Playground games talking about their incredible lighting engine that still looks like baked-in lighting.
I'm just done buying into the bullcrap until I see the results in action. Look at Turn 10/Playground games talking about their incredible lighting engine that still looks like baked-in lighting.
Yeah, true. That's why I said the lighting in that game looks good but nothing mindblowing. Now DC is a different story, it looks much more impressive and realistic.
Yu never said it was real-time.
When asked flat out, Yu did not answer clearly. She said "in-game", "captured off a PS4, etc. - but she specifically never said real-time, which is disappointing, as I implies it's not real-time.
Most of Ryse cinematics are not real-time. A few are (like the ambush on the bridge, which looks stunning... Still the most gorgeous thing I've seen on either console in real-time)... But the vast majority of Ryse cinematics are pre-rendered, albeit in-engine.
No, it's not. When it's used to refer to actual gameplay, then yes, you're right. But that's not how it was used in this case. It's clear the footage ND showed isn't of actual gameplay. Therefore, it's a squishy term which (when used in this context) is used when people generally want to imply real-time, but are intentionally *not* saying real-time (because there is in fact a difference). It's especially evident that Yu used it in a "squishy" sense, because traditionally if someone says, "in-game", they mean "actual gameplay", which the UC trailer (again) was clearly not (and it wasn't meant to be). ND is clear that it's not 'gameplay', so the fact that Yu said it's "in-game" should raise a flag.
ND isn't alone in this misleading tactic/use of the word though. This is true of Forza footage (in-engine, pre-rendered, claimed as "in-game"), UC2 footage in past years (ND claimed that pre-rendered scenes which were provably pre-rendered upon release, were "in-game", and it was demonstrably pre-rendered), etc. It's not uncommon to use it misleadingly.
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Microsoft fanboys here have been troll bombing the Playstation sub-forum since e3 and kinectless failed to have much sales impact and they can't get into the Destiny alpha. They're understandably angry, scared, and jealous.
Of course all they're doing is giving anything related to Xbox a bad name.
Of course all they're doing is giving anything related to Xbox a bad name.
Ignore button. Idk though some ppl enjoy the console warz part of more than they will admit.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...-4-trailer-as-in-engine-not-pre-rendered.aspx
Yu speak again, and has an opportunity again to say whether or not it's real-time or pre-rendered... and you know what she says?
"Our U4 trailer is an in engine real game level running on a real PS4, Paolo. Our trailer doesn't look good enough to be prerendered CGI."
No confirmation. Agian. This is her second chance to confirm, and she's even less conspicuous this time than in the first tweet.
Three things should strike you as interesting about this post.
1. She's responding to someone who asked whether it was rendered in "real-time", or "pre-rendered". She could have easily just said, it's "real-time", but she didn't. Red flag #1.
2. She never says it's real-time, and she aslo doesn't say it's "don't look good enough to be pre-rendered in-engine", she says it doesn't look good enough to be pre-rendered "CGI", meaning pre-rendered non-in-engine, but no one assumed it was. Everyone and anyone who's suggested it's not real-time have contended that it's pre-rendered in-engine. Obviously it's not pre-rendered CGI leveraging high-end rendering hardware and software. That much is plainly obvious, and has never been contended. Red flag #2.
3. She uses the word "real" twice in a single tweet. She's desperately trying to imply "real-time", without actually saying it... and by being so strategically elusive in her answer, she's once again confirming the suspicions of the skeptics. If it's real-time, Yu, just say it. If it's not, just admit it... Red Flag #3
Interesting...
Yu speak again, and has an opportunity again to say whether or not it's real-time or pre-rendered... and you know what she says?
"Our U4 trailer is an in engine real game level running on a real PS4, Paolo. Our trailer doesn't look good enough to be prerendered CGI."
No confirmation. Agian. This is her second chance to confirm, and she's even less conspicuous this time than in the first tweet.
Three things should strike you as interesting about this post.
1. She's responding to someone who asked whether it was rendered in "real-time", or "pre-rendered". She could have easily just said, it's "real-time", but she didn't. Red flag #1.
2. She never says it's real-time, and she aslo doesn't say it's "don't look good enough to be pre-rendered in-engine", she says it doesn't look good enough to be pre-rendered "CGI", meaning pre-rendered non-in-engine, but no one assumed it was. Everyone and anyone who's suggested it's not real-time have contended that it's pre-rendered in-engine. Obviously it's not pre-rendered CGI leveraging high-end rendering hardware and software. That much is plainly obvious, and has never been contended. Red flag #2.
3. She uses the word "real" twice in a single tweet. She's desperately trying to imply "real-time", without actually saying it... and by being so strategically elusive in her answer, she's once again confirming the suspicions of the skeptics. If it's real-time, Yu, just say it. If it's not, just admit it... Red Flag #3
Interesting...
I'm not a techie, but her response sounds confusing. Now that I read it a few times, you're right.... her saying "real" a few times does mess up the interpretation, since when someone says "real" it should probably mean "real time", but she never actually says "real time". Weird.
How about this: Every post by Intellivision and Flynn, specifically when they have anything to do with Sony, has been trolling. These two individuals, while seemingly completely normal human beings when discussing anything to do with the brand "Xbox," can not discuss anything to do with the brand "Sony" honestly and in an unbiased manner. It never stops and it seems to only be getting worse.
You can just start with those two people. But what do I care I don't really post much anymore on this forum and there are only a few Playstation fans left in here anyways. I care only enough to bring up why a lot of us don't really bother anymore. Naty, dno69, Valliance and yourself seem to be the only people in here left discussing Playstation on a day-to-day basis.
Dear god..
It's a trailer, made ingame with their current game-engine, EOD..
If you come to a cutscene in Uncharted 4, it will look exactly like that, in the current build, with the current assets.
They havn't shown gameplay yet. ND hasn't pretended they showed gameplay either.
No misleading anywhere, only certain Microsoft-employees misleading forum-goers that they're beeing mislead by Naughty Dog..
It's a trailer, made ingame with their current game-engine, EOD..
If you come to a cutscene in Uncharted 4, it will look exactly like that, in the current build, with the current assets.
They havn't shown gameplay yet. ND hasn't pretended they showed gameplay either.
No misleading anywhere, only certain Microsoft-employees misleading forum-goers that they're beeing mislead by Naughty Dog..
No need to get bent out of shape.
You may feel it's not misleading or confusing to use such non-specific, ambiguous terminology, but I know the way people dance around questions of rendering like this, and this is text book.
So let me ask you. If someone asks you "is this pre-rendered, or rendered in real-time?" - it's simple to reply to. You either say "it's real-time", or "it's pre-rendered".
Why hasn't Yu done that? Why the fluffy terminology, which on no-level clearly states "real-time"? Why not just be clear/forthcoming?
Well, usually it's because people are intentionally misleading others, and trying to avoid clear truth, because the clear truth isn't as impressive as the misled message.
http://gearnuke.com/pre-rendered-cutscenes-naughty-dog-starting-uncharted-4-report/
Starting with uc4 , cutscenes will be rendered in real time.
"Beginning with Uncharted 4, all Naughty Dog games will feature completely in engine, real time, 3D cutscenes (if they even stay cutscenes anymore), a huge performance departure from what they used to ship."
Take from it what you will.
I agree.
Something like Halo 5's teaser is clearly rendered stuff which the final game will NOT look like that. I have a hard time believing anyone thinks Halo 5 MP will look like the trailer. UC4 took the in-game engine route, which should lead to a higher chance of possibility the entire full game will be that as some gamer's will think.... "Hmmm, maybe the actual gameplay will look like that? Wow." The fact she is skirting around the questions basically means it is rendered and the actual gameplay will not be that.
But she's being vague in hopes some gamers believe that is what gameplay will be.
If she came out and said it's pre-rendered cut scenes and the actual game won't be that good, it's basically a slap in the face and people will discard it as bullshot.
It's the main reason I rarely post these days as well. It doesn't help putting them on ignore when they are constantly trolling and derailing topics because others haven't put them on ignore as well. There's really no point in ever having a serious discussion here anymore when this crap is constantly allowed to take place. I don't understand why this Flynn person isn't simply banned from this subforum entirely. If he wants to be a huge MS fanboy then fine, there's a designated forum for doing so. I'm just confused as to why this guy is allowed to ruin it for some of us who have been a part of this community for 10+ years...
Thanks for sharing. I had seen that already, though, and used Yu's comments from the update as part of my post.
We'll see. I think there's enough evidence to suggest that ND pulled a Bungie (ala Halo 2 announce trailer). They claimed that was rendered "in-engine", etc., and the final game did have real-time cinematics, but it didn't live up to the original trailer... Because the original trailer was actually pre-rendered with the game-engine.
Yep if possible just outright ban people from subforums. As I've said feel free to do the same in the Xbox area, but I'm not in there much so not sure if the same thing happens there. Anyways I have do have a few on ignore but like you said there are comments by non banned people that obviously reveal what's being discussed, and it's usually thrown the topic off by then.
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