Xbox 360 Titanfall delayed again but it's out now.

I love the Xbox 360 and i'd like to see Microsoft continue to support it but it gets to the point where they're competing against themselves. The 360's still so good that not many people are going to want to make the switch just for better graphics. Not until the Xbox One's library is must have from top to bottom anyway.

Titanfall has nothing to do with MS. Supporting the 360 is very much in MS best interest. You talk about forcing peoples hands, but they are far more likely to push them to the PS3 than the xbox one if they do not support the 360. The Majority of 360/PS3 owners aren't early adopters.
 
Titanfall has nothing to do with MS. Supporting the 360 is very much in MS best interest. You talk about forcing peoples hands, but they are far more likely to push them to the PS3 than the xbox one if they do not support the 360. The Majority of 360/PS3 owners aren't early adopters.

It doesn't? Why do i keep seeing Xbox One ads telling me to buy Titanfall with no mention of PC then? It's a console game, first and foremost. So to me it has everything to do with Microsoft. It's being marketed as the flagship game of the Xbox One. Right now, Titanfall is the biggest thing going in gaming and you can only play it on the X1 if you're a console gamer. Keeping it that way would be best for business.

I doubt they'd push anyone to a PS console, and why the PS3 instead of the PS4? That doesn't make sense to me. If you're an Xbox fan, you're likely sticking with the brand and upgrading at some point to the One. Anyone who jumped ship was planning on jumping ship for awhile. It's a double-edged sword. They can still make money on the 360, but they're hurting their overall chances of the One taking off.
 
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It doesn't? Why do i keep seeing Xbox One ads telling me to buy Titanfall with no mention of PC then? It's a console game, first and foremost. So to me it has everything to do with Microsoft. It's being marketed as the flagship game of the Xbox One. Right now, Titanfall is the biggest thing going in gaming and you can only play it on the X1 if you're a console gamer. Keeping it that way would be best for business.
Best for MS pushing xbox ones, yes. Best for EA and Respawn ( the publisher and dev), No. MS has nothing to do with the publishing or making of Titanfall.

I doubt they'd push anyone to a PS console, and why the PS3 instead of the PS4? That doesn't make sense to me. If you're an Xbox fan, you're likely sticking with the brand and upgrading at some point to the One. Anyone who jumped ship was planning on jumping ship for awhile. It's a double-edged sword. They can still make money on the 360, but they're hurting their overall chances of the One taking off.

Because the majority of 360 owners ( as stated before) are not early adopters. If you stop supporting the 360 they are far more likely to move to the PS3 which has a large abundance of games and a more reasonable price point than a next-gen console. Double edge-sword, nope. You're forgetting that it is lack of game support making them jump ;) and the xbox one has taken off, 4 million-ish sold. Best xbox launch to date.

Seems you;re just throwing out comments to try to and support your original opinion rather than looking at it more logically from a differing opinion. If even MS discontinued the 360 there is no guarantee that the xbox one would receive a significant up-tick in sales;)
 
Best for MS pushing xbox ones, yes. Best for EA and Respawn ( the publisher and dev), No. MS has nothing to do with the publishing or making of Titanfall.

Yeah, it's better for Respawn and EA to rake in the bucks by putting Titanfall on as many platforms as possible. I get that, but it would have been Microsoft's best interest to just lock it up as an Xbox One exclusive in my opinion.

Because the majority of 360 owners ( as stated before) are not early adopters. If you stop supporting the 360 they are far more likely to move to the PS3 which has a large abundance of games and a more reasonable price point than a next-gen console. Double edge-sword, nope. You're forgetting that it is lack of game support making them jump ;) and the xbox one has taken off, 4 million-ish sold. Best xbox launch to date.

Seems you;re just throwing out comments to try to and support your original opinion rather than looking at it more logically from a differing opinion. If even MS discontinued the 360 there is no guarantee that the xbox one would receive a significant up-tick in sales

Maybe some of them would move to the PS3 but if they really wanted a PS3 they would probably already have one because it's cheap. They're playing on the 360, most likely because they're Xbox gamers and have been with the brand from the start. I just don't see someone who loves Halo 3 and Halo 4 jumping to PS3 just because Microsoft cut off support of the 360 knowing full well Halo 5 is coming only to the Xbox One.

It's no different than when Sony competed against themselves last gen by continuing to support the PS2 and PS Vita. Why upgrade to the PS3 at that price when the PS2 was still getting it done? I mean, you can't tell me that when Microsoft cut off support for the original Xbox after 4 short years it didn't help them in the long run. Believe it or not, some people still buy consoles for the exclusives. I respect your opinion. I just think you're wrong. ;)

Right now, Microsoft needs to do everything in their power to steer people towards the Xbox One. They've supported the 360 for 9 years now.. i think that's long enough. Just because Sony has a 10 year plan doesn't mean Microsoft has to follow that. Remember who's following who.
 
Yeah, it's better for Respawn and EA to rake in the bucks by putting Titanfall on as many platforms as possible. I get that, but it would have been Microsoft's best interest to just lock it up as an Xbox One exclusive in my opinion.

Well, yeah. I'm sure they tried, but the cost would likely have been high, and Respawn have already shown their disinterest in a one platform franchise.



Maybe some of them would move to the PS3 but if they really wanted a PS3 they would probably already have one because it's cheap. They're playing on the 360, most likely because they're Xbox gamers and have been with the brand from the start. I just don't see someone who loves Halo 3 and Halo 4 jumping to PS3 just because Microsoft cut off support of the 360 knowing full well Halo 5 is coming only to the Xbox One.
When is it coming ? and Halo fans make up a very small portion of xbox gamers ;)

It's no different than when Sony competed against themselves last gen by continuing to support the PS2 and PS Vita. Why upgrade to the PS3 at that price when the PS2 was still getting it done? I mean, you can't tell me that when Microsoft cut off support for the original Xbox after 4 short years it didn't help them in the long run. Believe it or not, some people still buy consoles for the exclusives.

The xbox and 360 are very different. The xbox only had software to make money from. 360 had a billion dollar a year service and could make money on hardware too.

I respect your opinion. I just think you're wrong. ;) Right now, Microsoft needs to do everything in their power to steer people towards the Xbox One. They've supported the 360 for 9 years now.. i think that's long enough. Just because Sony has a 10 year plan doesn't mean Microsoft has to follow that. Remember who's following who.

Yes they do, but cutting off a perfectly good hand to help another perfectly good hand is not smart. MS do not need to do this. They do not need to put the revenue from 360 at risk to help push a console that is doing extremely well and the only thing slowing it down really is overall cost. I would wage that the losses from a $100 price drop would be less than those lost from abandoning the 360.
 
Well, yeah. I'm sure they tried, but the cost would likely have been high, and Respawn have already shown their disinterest in a one platform franchise.

When is it coming ? and Halo fans make up a very small portion of xbox gamers ;)

The xbox and 360 are very different. The xbox only had software to make money from. 360 had a billion dollar a year service and could make money on hardware too.

Yes they do, but cutting off a perfectly good hand to help another perfectly good hand is not smart. MS do not need to do this. They do not need to put the revenue from 360 at risk to help push a console that is doing extremely well and the only thing slowing it down really is overall cost. I would wage that the losses from a $100 price drop would be less than those lost from abandoning the 360.

Getting too tired to be bothered with multi-quoting and i'm about to go to bed so here goes. :)

I'm sure the price was high for Titanfall, so they probably did the right thing in the end but who knows. When i gamble i'm an all in kind of gambler. So i probably would have pulled the trigger and lived with the consequences. To me, Titanfall would have been a game changer like Halo: CE was for the original Xbox and it'll still help the One. I'm sure of that.

Halo 5 is supposedly coming later this year. So i figure, get people in on the Xbox One and Titanfall now before they do possibly switch to the PS4. Don't underestimate Halo either. It's making a come back this gen if 343 Industries plays their cards right.

Yeah, biting the hand that feeds you might not be smart. But my point is more or less if they really want to catch Sony and the PS4 in sales, going all in on the Xbox One is their best bet. Otherwise they'll just have to settle for second place and whatever profits come with that. Nothing wrong with that, because we know they're going to make money this gen regardless.
 
Getting too tired to be bothered with multi-quoting and i'm about to go to bed so here goes. :)

I'm sure the price was high for Titanfall, so they probably did the right thing in the end but who knows. When i gamble i'm an all in kind of gambler. So i probably would have pulled the trigger and lived with the consequences. To me, Titanfall would have been a game changer like Halo: CE was for the original Xbox and it'll still help the One. I'm sure of that.

Again, I agree, and am sure they tried. I'm sure they will try again too if TF is as popular as many expect it to be.

Halo 5 is supposedly coming later this year. So i figure, get people in on the Xbox One and Titanfall now before they do possibly switch to the PS4. Don't underestimate Halo either. It's making a come back this gen if 343 Industries plays their cards right.

Too much speculation here. Also, I doubt Halo 5 will release this year. The Halo touted at E3 was not H5 but something else. Now that is likely to release this year. Doubt two Halo games will release in the same year.

Yeah, biting the hand that feeds you might not be smart. But my point is more or less if they really want to catch Sony and the PS4 in sales, going all in on the Xbox One is their best bet. Otherwise they'll just have to settle for second place and whatever profits come with that. Nothing wrong with that, because we know they're going to make money this gen regardless.

Hmmmm...we seem to be going way off topic now. However, I will say this, supporting the 360 is not the reason for a sales gap. Higher price and less countries are.
 
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Hmmmm...we seem to be going way off topic now. However, I will say this, supporting the 360 is not the reason for a sales gap. Higher price and less countries are.

Sorry, i should have been more clear. I don't think they have to completely stop supporting the 360. Just don't give people anymore reason not to buy an Xbox One. It's time to focus on the next gen. Keep selling the 360 and let developers put out their third party games. Like CoD, Battlefield, NBA 2k, and Fifa for the next few years but a game like Titanfall should have been a true next gen experience and nothing more. That's all i'm saying.
 
Sorry, i should have been more clear. I don't think they have to completely stop supporting the 360. Just don't give people anymore reason not to buy an Xbox One. It's time to focus on the next gen. Keep selling the 360 and let developers put out their third party games. Like CoD, Battlefield, NBA 2k, and Fifa for the next few years but a game like Titanfall should have been a true next gen experience and nothing more. That's all i'm saying.

Titanfall also should have been multiplatform ;) it is only unfortunate circumstance that sees it only appear on xbox, and again, ignoring an 80 million consumer base makes little business sense for an upstart company.
 
Titanfall also should have been multiplatform ;) it is only unfortunate circumstance that sees it only appear on xbox, and again, ignoring an 80 million consumer base makes little business sense for an upstart company.

I keep seeing this 80 million figure. Titanfall is online only. I think XBL subscription is less than 40million, so that's really the number of potential sales in my opinion
 
I keep seeing this 80 million figure. Titanfall is online only. I think XBL subscription is less than 40million, so that's really the number of potential sales in my opinion

It's is just a general overall figure. Sure, XBL subs is half that, but any of those 80 million could get a few months of live to play it, if they wished. Either way though, 40 million, 80 million, is just too big a pool to ignore.
 
It's is just a general overall figure. Sure, XBL subs is half that, but any of those 80 million could get a few months of live to play it, if they wished. Either way though, 40 million, 80 million, is just too big a pool to ignore.

Oh yeah, it s a big pool. But the difference between 40 million and 80 million is just as big ;)

I think this is nothing more than extra development time being required for what I also think is going to be a crappy port. I'm sure MS don't mind the delay either as it gives the X1 more time in the spot light.
 
Oh yeah, it s a big pool. But the difference between 40 million and 80 million is just as big ;)

I think this is nothing more than extra development time being required for what I also think is going to be a crappy port. I'm sure MS don't mind the delay either as it gives the X1 more time in the spot light.

Agreed on all three
 
More time to get their servers prepped based on lessons learned from the X1 launch would be the initial guess ... not sure but I don't think they're using the azure platform as they did with x1 ...

More advertising... more hype, etc...

2 weeks from a development perspective is NOTHING... they'd have the code locked down by now. I doubt they have distribution issues.. so it has to be either a MAJOR issue (in which case I wouldn't at all be surprised at another slip)... or.. it's something non-code related...

One possibility may be that they're getting an x360 launch bundle prepped as well..

They wouldn't be taking advantage of more hype. The time to do that was when it was released on Xbox One and Microsoft was promoting the crap out of it. This only hurts the game. So as I said EA has nothing to gain.

And it isn't just 2 weeks considering its the second time its been delayed.
 
2 weeks from a development perspective is NOTHING... they'd have the code locked down by now.

Eh. Are you a developer? I only ask because I'm wondering if you have ever heard of a framework called Scrum? 2 weeks is plenty of time for coding within a well organized team using a decent framework that's managed correctly.
 
Eh. Are you a developer? I only ask because I'm wondering if you have ever heard of a framework called Scrum? 2 weeks is plenty of time for coding within a well organized team using a decent framework that's managed correctly.

yes I'm a developer - 20+ years - and yes I'm fully aware of Scrum and Agile methodologies... I manage a team following these (and other methodologies in the past) it on a daily basis....

Let me clarify - I didn't say they wouldn't be able to make some changes or improvements within 2 weeks..... I simply outlined that (at this particular stage - considering how close they are to release) there wouldn't be any significant/major updates to the code within that 2 week span (as noted - if there are - then there will be further delays)...

Depending on which methodology you follow - at a high level - Development is done in X week sprints (say 2) with smaller and more achievable goals ("stories") to accomplish within that time period by the team. They may or may not make that timeline - and they'll usually know up front... which is a possibility for the delay...

Even then - it depends on how they're setup with regards to their Development and QA cycles - add to that their production release cycle ... so taking into consideration the 2 week delay - that typically means that a team, for their respective deliverable items/tasks/"stories" are 4-6+ weeks back before actual production runs/deployments are executed - depending on their active deployments - even though there are 2 week sprints - those are delivered to QA for testing - and subsequently, upon approval, code is typically delivered into production on very set and defined schedules - typically within tight timelines (anywhere between 4-24 hours depending on the size of the production implementation)..

My point to all of this is - they *should* have all of the major deliverable code in production *NOW*... this delay of 2 weeks is simply either a small modification to the code, or it could entirely be other issues (i.e. infrastructure, configuration, hardware, data center, networking, etc. - not code related at all), or as previously discussed, simply some additional time being provided to the team to finish up the code (based on lessons learned from the X1 deployment) while providing the additional time in the market to sell more systems...

Anything's possible.. ;)
 
yes I'm a developer - 20+ years - and yes I'm fully aware of Scrum and Agile methodologies... I manage a team following these (and other methodologies in the past) it on a daily basis....

Let me clarify - I didn't say they wouldn't be able to make some changes or improvements within 2 weeks..... I simply outlined that (at this particular stage - considering how close they are to release) there wouldn't be any significant/major updates to the code within that 2 week span (as noted - if there are - then there will be further delays)...

Depending on which methodology you follow - at a high level - Development is done in X week sprints (say 2) with smaller and more achievable goals ("stories") to accomplish within that time period by the team. They may or may not make that timeline - and they'll usually know up front... which is a possibility for the delay...

Even then - it depends on how they're setup with regards to their Development and QA cycles - add to that their production release cycle ... so taking into consideration the 2 week delay - that typically means that a team, for their respective deliverable items/tasks/"stories" are 4-6+ weeks back before actual production runs/deployments are executed - depending on their active deployments - even though there are 2 week sprints - those are delivered to QA for testing - and subsequently, upon approval, code is typically delivered into production on very set and defined schedules - typically within tight timelines (anywhere between 4-24 hours depending on the size of the production implementation)..

My point to all of this is - they *should* have all of the major deliverable code in production *NOW*... this delay of 2 weeks is simply either a small modification to the code, or it could entirely be other issues (i.e. infrastructure, configuration, hardware, data center, networking, etc. - not code related at all), or as previously discussed, simply some additional time being provided to the team to finish up the code (based on lessons learned from the X1 deployment) while providing the additional time in the market to sell more systems...

Anything's possible.. ;)

I'm was a scrum master..... unfortunately! :(

On the delay, given that there was two, and that it seemed to be pushed in a set pattern it really struck me as patch work, which is leading me to think that 1) this game will have a day patch, and 2) it's gonna be a crappy port.
 
I'm was a scrum master..... unfortunately! :(

On the delay, given that there was two, and that it seemed to be pushed in a set pattern it really struck me as patch work, which is leading me to think that 1) this game will have a day patch, and 2) it's gonna be a crappy port.

oh I definitely wouldn't be surprised if there's a day one patch...

I doubt seriously they've pulled back on dropping the initial release of the code.
 
I'm was a scrum master..... unfortunately! :(

On the delay, given that there was two, and that it seemed to be pushed in a set pattern it really struck me as patch work, which is leading me to think that 1) this game will have a day patch, and 2) it's gonna be a crappy port.


Well the first delay was due to the day one patch that was on xbox one. Apparently they had issues with it on 360.
 
Lol, you guys cracked me up. No one here knows the actual reason. Pure speculation. It could be any of those reasons. I guess conspiracy theories are more fun ;)
 
Lol, you guys cracked me up. No one here knows the actual reason. Pure speculation. It could be any of those reasons. I guess conspiracy theories are more fun ;)

Hey. Speculating on why something might have happened is where all the fun is. If we knew why everything happened , what the hell would we talk about ? ;)
 
Lol, you guys cracked me up. No one here knows the actual reason. Pure speculation. It could be any of those reasons. I guess conspiracy theories are more fun ;)

Actually, we all know the actual reason. They told us:

"“I’ve been playing the game a lot, and it is fantastic,” he wrote. “But we see a few things that can be made even better, so we’re giving Bluepoint a little more time to do just that and deliver an epic Titanfall experience for Xbox 360 players."

The Titan wasn't ready. Less Bugs > More Bugs
 
Actually, we all know the actual reason. They told us:

"“I’ve been playing the game a lot, and it is fantastic,” he wrote. “But we see a few things that can be made even better, so we’re giving Bluepoint a little more time to do just that and deliver an epic Titanfall experience for Xbox 360 players."

The Titan wasn't ready. Less Bugs > More Bugs

Maybe they should think about actually showing the game if they want anyone to have confidence in it.
 
Maybe they will when they are good and ready. Thought of that?

Well lets hope they are ready before the game is actually out. We can't even count on leaks since they can just keep the servers down and continue to hide the game.
 
Well lets hope they are ready before the game is actually out. We can't even count on leaks since they can just keep the servers down and continue to hide the game.

If you are concerned about the 360 version, just use common sense. Wait till the game hits the retail channel, and the reviews and videos are released. April 8th or 9th will help you determine if the game will meet your standards.