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And I'm on point so your point is?
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For real. And I’m not knocking anyone who has one. Menace likes his. And I may pick one up as a “let the kids play this one“ option.
But it doesn’t even play games in 4K when the X1X did. I don’t get it. Performance is better on the S. But resolution is usually nixed.

XSX is not hitting 4k also. Since devs are embracing checkerboarding at the expense of resolution then it makes sense the XSS will not hit 1080p. The fact is if you don’t have a 4k set and don’t plan on getting one then the XSS is the better option. Don’t discount the form factor also. It’s easy to live with and you pack it up and travel.
 
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XSX is not hitting 4k also. Since devs are embracing checkerboarding at the expense of resolution then it makes sense the XSS will not hit 1080p. The fact is if you don’t have a 4k set and don’t plan on getting one then the XSS is the better option. Don’t discount the form factor also. It’s easy to live with and you pack it up and travel.
Well it is true. Most people have a 1080p TV or less. 📺
 
It just isn't Next Gen when you can't improve upon every aspect... A letdown IMO

Also, I very much dislike how it looks like a speaker in a box... Plus it's another ugly WHITE console
So using your logic, none are next gen consoles. Awesome.
 
For real. And I’m not knocking anyone who has one. Menace likes his. And I may pick one up as a “let the kids play this one“ option.
But it doesn’t even play games in 4K when the X1X did. I don’t get it. Performance is better on the S. But resolution is usually nixed.
I can tell you right now that all cross gen games I played on X1 and SS are obviously better on the SS.

People can talk s*** about the SS all they want, but what is the XSX doing that is any better? Same res with upped performance on last gen games. The way you lot talk about the SS you would think XSX is running last gen games at 8k.
 
I can tell you right now that all cross gen games I played on X1 and SS are obviously better on the SS.

People can talk s*** about the SS all they want, but what is the XSX doing that is any better? Same res with upped performance on last gen games. The way you lot talk about the SS you would think XSX is running last gen games at 8k.
It’s nice hardware. I just wish MS wouldn’t have cheaped out on the GPU.
I thought it was going to be a 1440p machine or 1080p At minimum.
I am interested in how machine learning plays out. Especially in regards to the S.
 
It’s nice hardware. I just wish MS wouldn’t have cheaped out on the GPU.
I thought it was going to be a 1440p machine or 1080p At minimum.
I am interested in how machine learning plays out. Especially in regards to the S.
I thought the XSX was going to be native 4K minimum. But here we are where it can go as low as 900P.

People get hung up too much on numbers. I mean, you're really arguing over 180P? Come on man. You only know that difference exists because intentionally nit-picky videos from DF and alike.

I have one. I know it provides a big improvement over base last gen skus. From the dramatic sub surface scattering on FIFA 21 player skin, to the small bubble effect when playing West Ham at home. To the amazing single strand hair tech on some star players.

And next gen hasn't even started yet.
 
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Im not trying to argumentative. But you’re right. People do get hung up on numbers when really image quality and performance are really the most important factors.
like I said. I am curious to see how machine learning plays into things.
 
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Im not trying to argumentative. But you’re right. People do get hung up on numbers when really image quality and performance are really the most important factors.
like I said. I am curious to see how machine learning plays into things.
Performance wise the SS has been perfect. Haven't noticed a single frame drop yet.
 
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I'm seeing the SS going between 1080p and 1440p in a couple of years when the dev tools mature and perhaps that machine learning thingy goes off.
Honestly, that would be a perfect machine for my guesthouse.... Only problem will be the kinect that goes into my One X atm.... How could I live without the bowling game and just dance when friends bring the families over.
 
I'm seeing the SS going between 1080p and 1440p in a couple of years when the dev tools mature and perhaps that machine learning thingy goes off.
Honestly, that would be a perfect machine for my guesthouse.... Only problem will be the kinect that goes into my One X atm.... How could I live without the bowling game and just dance when friends bring the families over.
Are the adapters still available to buy somewhere?
 
So using your logic, none are next gen consoles. Awesome.

I was one who did expect more of the same with just some added power here and there for things like Ray Tracing, and 60fps while Native 4k resolution is sacrificed in favor of 1440p/1080p... Newer games will improve on detail over last Gen in the coming years though

I do believe the gap will grow between the XSX and the XSS as Developers tap into the XSX tech more... Most games showing now are just last Gen ports, and are not optimized to utilize the improved XSX tech. We can't really judge the XSX added power not showing up in the games we have now so early in this new Gen... They haven't been developed from the ground up to take advantage of that added power yet.
 
Im not trying to argumentative. But you’re right. People do get hung up on numbers when really image quality and performance are really the most important factors.
like I said. I am curious to see how machine learning plays into things.

Yeah like FLOPs... I remember telling people that Developer talent is far more important than FLOPs.

I also believe Sony's Devs proved it the last two Gens
 
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Are the adapters still available to buy somewhere?
Not that I'm aware, I had mine since the One S when they gave them away free if you upgraded from the vanilla console. Still bummed out that they don't work with the new consoles.
I think this is the one I’m using, they got other brands listed there as well...

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I was one who did expect more of the same with just some added power here and there for things like Ray Tracing, and 60fps while Native 4k resolution is sacrificed in favor of 1440p/1080p... Newer games will improve on detail over last Gen in the coming years though

I do believe the gap will grow between the XSX and the XSS as Developers tap into the XSX tech more... Most games showing now are just last Gen ports, and are not optimized to utilize the improved XSX tech. We can't really judge the XSX added power not showing up in the games we have now so early in this new Gen... They haven't been developed from the ground up to take advantage of that added power yet.
I doubt the gap will grow. But if it does, mid gen refreshes will be out by then.

You can't judge the XSS either, it has the exact same tech as the XSX, just less power. Most of which isn't needed for the lower res it targets.
 
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I doubt the gap will grow. But if it does, mid gen refreshes will be out by then.

You can't judge the XSS either, it has the exact same tech as the XSX, just less power. Most of which isn't needed for the lower res it targets.

I wouldn't say the same tech... GB of RAM, and GPU CUs is apart of that tech, and there is a big difference in what both offer

I highly doubt the XSX advantages have been utilized
 
I doubt the gap will grow. But if it does, mid gen refreshes will be out by then.

You can't judge the XSS either, it has the exact same tech as the XSX, just less power. Most of which isn't needed for the lower res it targets.
It will grow as games are already using lower details and some like Destiny 2 don't have a 120 fps option.
As actual next gen releases release this will worsen unless they stay at 1080p~900p.
 
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It will grow as games are already using lower details and some like Destiny 2 don't have a 120 fps option.
As actual next gen releases release this will worsen unless they stay at 1080p~900p.
120FPS is a largely wasted option on XSS anyway.
 
I wouldn't say the same tech... GB of RAM, and GPU CUs is apart of that tech, and there is a big difference in what both offer

I highly doubt the XSX advantages have been utilized
It is the same tech.

Neither console has been utilized. Not sure hoow many times or different ways I need to say it.
 
Yeah like FLOPs... I remember telling people that Developer talent is far more important than FLOPs.

I also believe Sony's Devs proved it the last two Gens
Flops is a therotical number derived by a singular data point. In the real world the number is largely irrelevant.
 
Not the same... RAM, and GPU CUs is Tech

The XSS is being pushed more early on than the XSX is
You know that second sentence makes no sense, right.


It is the same. XSX has more ram for higher res textures. The CUs are proportional to power. As I said, same tech, just less power.
 
You know that second sentence makes no sense, right.


It is the same. XSX has more ram for higher res textures. The CUs are proportional to power. As I said, same tech, just less power.

More RAM can be used for more than just higher Res textures

Not same tech, or it would offer the same power
 
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