Are Sony remasters really remasters?

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I'm not sure if that comparison helps prove your point or de3d1's.

But I can understand why those textures were used to maintain consistency in the art style.
 
They should have just waited to remaster TLoU completely, the game is beyond awesome I would have loved to see a full ps4 rebuild or ps5. It was way too soon, but I understand sony had to cash in on all the losses from ps3.
 
They should have just waited to remaster TLoU completely, the game is beyond awesome I would have loved to see a full ps4 rebuild or ps5. It was way too soon, but I understand sony had to cash in on all the losses from ps3.

The timing was perfect with all the 360 owners flipping.
 
The timing was perfect with all the 360 owners flipping.

Agreed. And I'm not bashing the game as it was a better looking and performing version of one of my favorite games of all time.

But I thought the general consensus was that it wasn't a drastic improvement visually.
 
TLoU also came with the $15 DLC free, which was a nice addition.

I hope when RoTR comes to the PS4, it's a rebooted remaster of re-imagined remake.
 
It's comments like this that makes people not take you seriously. You may not like the art decisions, but your personal tastes don't affect the objective truth that they are rebuilding all of the assets from textures to models, to animation.

That is far more a legit reason to charge 40 bucks than a res and framerate bump that largely comes with stronger hardware.

It also provides an excuse to not run at 60 frames. Higher detail models, lighting, and shaders. Hell, God of War 3 can't even fully do that with no modern assets,
Why does your Xboy defensive self have to mention gow3? Lol don't answer.
Gears half assed remake looks worse in some areas and is 30fps in sp lol.
Am I lying? If not stfu with stupid posts like this one in quoting.
 
I'm not sure if that comparison helps prove your point or de3d1's.

But I can understand why those textures were used to maintain consistency in the art style.

Better textures, models, higher res and frame rate, that is a remaster. But yeah they aren't going to totally change the art style of the game to "improve it" when it's a game that only came out a year before, was one of the best looking titles on that console and everything was carefully put together for the visual look they were going for. At some point a brick is going to look like a brick no matter what you do to it :)
 
Obviously, single player is going to be 120fps. Boom!

Apparently we can't call a port a port now. Its automatically a remaster if it doesn't run like s***.

...unless its Capcom. Then everything is a remaster. And it will run like s***. BUT YOU WILL BUY IT UNTIL WE REMASTER OUR ENTIRE CATALOG IN EUPER, ULTRA, MEGA ULTRA EDITIONS!!!
 
Why does your Xboy defensive self have to mention gow3? Lol don't answer.
Gears half assed remake looks worse in some areas and is 30fps in sp lol.
Am I lying? If not stfu with stupid posts like this one in quoting.

If you had more of a brain you would see the relevancy. You were too busy making your typical BS remarks. If the game is using more modern assets, it makes more sense for it not hitting 60 fps.

It also makes sense for the MP to not look like as big a step up because it IS running at 60 frames. Your snide comment about it running at 30 prompted me to comment about the more power system not hitting 60 frames without those new assets as an example.
Val isn't the only one who thinks the Ultimate Edition Gears looks worse in some ways.

http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/a...ns-xbox-one-visuals-look-pretty-underwhelming

That link is talking about the Beta of the MP mode that runs at 60fps. So I wouldn't expect as much of a jump. That said, the game looking "worse" is subjective and down to art direction. Having played the Beta myself, It looks much better, imo, and objectively has higher rez textures and denser geometry.
 
So Gears Ultimate looks worse than the 360 version, but TLoU remaster looks significantly better than the PS3 version? OK

I'll be interested to see DF's God Of War 3 analysis and see if they sugar coat it or nitpick it like Gears U.
 
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I'm not sure if that comparison helps prove your point or de3d1's.

You don't see the differences there? That's weird, I see very substantial differences. You're looking at the blown-up versions, right?
 
You don't see the differences there? That's weird, I see very substantial differences. You're looking at the blown-up versions, right?
I see some major crushed blacks going on in the 360 version. I for one played the gears beta last month and it looked nice and sharp to me. Have the people judging it actually played the beta ???
 
You don't see the differences there? That's weird, I see very substantial differences. You're looking at the blown-up versions, right?

I'm looking at it on my phone. But I also owned both versions. I'm seeing a higher resolution and slightly higher textures. Nothing drastic.

Edit: Maybe I'm focussing too much on the environment. The characters certainly look much better.
 
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I see some major crushed blacks going on in the 360 version. I for one played the gears beta last month and it looked nice and sharp to me. Have the people judging it actually played the beta ???

Andy's talking about The Last of Us remaster.

I've seen videos of Gears U that definitely look better than Gears one. I'm not sure what DF is smoking. They changed the water for the worst on one map and it's the end of the world.
 
I'm looking at it on my phone. But I also owned both versions. I'm seeing a higher resolution and slightly higher textures. Nothing drastic.

Edit: Maybe I'm focussing too much on the environment. The characters certainly look much better.

I knew it!! lol the first thought I had when you posted the response was "he must be using a phone" that's probably not a good way to look at comparison shots if you can help it. :wink:
 
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If you had more of a brain you would see the relevancy. You were too busy making your typical BS remarks. If the game is using more modern assets, it makes more sense for it not hitting 60 fps.

It also makes sense for the MP to not look like as big a step up because it IS running at 60 frames. Your snide comment about it running at 30 prompted me to comment about the more power system not hitting 60 frames without those new assets as an example.


That link is talking about the Beta of the MP mode that runs at 60fps. So I wouldn't expect as much of a jump. That said, the game looking "worse" is subjective and down to art direction. Having played the Beta myself, It looks much better, imo, and objectively has higher rez textures and denser geometry.

Oh of course it's subjective, I was just pointing out that Val isn't pulling that out of his ass and that it has actually been written about, some people make it sound like he's just saying that for no reason. The parts they do point out do look worse, some if it is because they've lit the environment up too much though they are right.
 
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Still in beta too though

Oh yeah no doubt, but they are also going for 60 fps in MP so I wouldn't look for a gigantic difference in the final product but I'm sure it'll look at least a little better.
 
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