PHIL NEVER SAID 9 million sold
that was Edge magazine and not Sony either
if Sony had sold that many I am sure they would be bragging about it
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*The 9 million figure was mentioned by Edge in the question directed at Harrison.
Edge: PS4 9 million "sold", Harrison: X1 "north of 5 million"
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PHIL NEVER SAID 9 million sold
that was Edge magazine and not Sony either
if Sony had sold that many I am sure they would be bragging about it
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*The 9 million figure was mentioned by Edge in the question directed at Harrison.
Agreed, their policies didn't help, but even without it, last gen was a good indication that Val's prediction would still have been a reality. PS3 caught up to 360 sales with a whole year less on the market, costing more and having the worse versions of multiplats.
That tells me that even has MS had different policies/negative views that didn't leave a sour taste in gamer's mouths, that MS still would have had to contend with the strong PS brand, PS4 costing less and PS4 having the better versions of multiplats.
THIS is true but they both lack the exclusives this year IMO the trend of 3rd party games ruling continues
No, a sale is not insignificant....but the total number of extra sales is insignificant when making sales comparisons.
An argument can be made that it all evens itself out considering that for months, the PS4 did not have as many units in NA as the XB1 did...the largest territory for both MS and Sony.
If it wasn't for MSFT the PS4 wouldn't be what it is today. I don't think there is denying that when you look at the PS3. MSFT showed us how ease of use, online integration and functionality were where consoles needed to grow. MSFT became such a threat with the 360 it pushed Sony to do even better for the successor. And as they understood that they didn't have a handle on those things they smartly contacted someone who did with Cerny who did an excellent job with the PS4 as the lead architect. Competition is good and these companies will continue to push each other as they battle it out and gamers benefit from it.
But you're right. We can't forget how well the X1 is doing. Its not doing as well as the PS4 but doing well none the less. It just gets overshadowed in the wake of the PS4 success.
Sony is just more aggressive & ticking most of the right boxes this gen.
- More exclusive contents deals than last gen (compare to PS3)
- More Hardware power & aggressive pricing.
- Lower PS+ price & more up to date free games
- trying to be leading in new stuff, rather than just following, like already planning stuff like renting games, VR, preload, things you expect MS to be leading
- Improve controller
- actively pursuing Indies, & no parity clause.
- Better development tools (compare to previous PSs)
People keep talking about MS missteps, but many people seems to underestimate how much hard work Sony have put in to "win" this generation.
- More exclusive contents deals than last gen (compare to PS3)
- More Hardware power & aggressive pricing.
- Lower PS+ price & more up to date free games
- trying to be leading in new stuff, rather than just following, like already planning stuff like renting games, VR, preload, things you expect MS to be leading
- Improve controller
- actively pursuing Indies, & no parity clause.
- Better development tools (compare to previous PSs)
People keep talking about MS missteps, but many people seems to underestimate how much hard work Sony have put in to "win" this generation.
Things are popular for a reason. PS3 sold the same as X360 (gve or take). You meant to say Sony suddenly become more popular?
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PS3 released later and at a higher price...how many times do we gotta go through this?
Or maybe whoever told him that information simply referred to the most recent PR news? As I said in my previous post, Sony has stated when the PS4 reached 6 million as well as 7 million. It would seem as if Sony would have stated something at E3 if the system passed the 8 million mark back then.
He actually made the tweet because he previously tweeted the article stating the sales as fact. He seemingly wanted to make sure it was accurate. He never viewed it as a rumor.
Yes, I said before that the PS4 has to at least be close to 8 million just based on the past 2 months of NPD stats alone.
4.7 sounds too high to me. The US is pretty much the top selling country for the Xbox One and the system had multiple months under 200K. I can't see the system doing better in other countries. Think 4.5 Million is a more accurate number. Guess we will get a better idea though with the upcoming NPD.
You are referring to 9 Million vs. 5 million when you use the term "rumor"? If so then that doesn't mean the Xbox has outsold the PS4 worldwide at all. Not sure I'm following you 100% though.
5 Million shipped to retailers doesn't (automatically) mean 4.6-4.8 Million sold. The Xbox One hit 3 million sold at the end of 2013. As I said before, the US is pretty much the Xbox's strongest territory but the system hasn't sold past 1 million units in America yet when it comes to 2014 sales (2014 American sales for the Xbox One are ~900,000). Close to 5 million in worldwide sales would mean that other countries outside of the US would add up to more than 1 million in sales and I don't think that's the case since a lot of territories outside of the US couldn't care less about the Xbox brand. It just doesn't add up.
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So XBox 360 lower price & advantages in releasing earlier make it a popular (as in sales) choice then. Thanks for your clarification.
Actually, if Sony did sold 9 millions they will likely NOT brag about it, but rather wait until the milestone 10 millions before announcing. My opinion anyway.
That's what I think too. Maybe a nice big number like 10 million, probably announce that when TLoU remastered comes out or Destiny bundle time period.
"Thanks to the boost from the Destiny bundle, PS4 has now reached 10 million sold through worldwide" or something of the sort.
Sony went from being the best selling home console brand ever (PS2) to then dropping to third place, and struggling to keep relevant with PS3 - all in one generation. Wii crushed all in the beginning, and 360 had the best hardware, best games, best services, and better pricing (when compared to PS3), etc...
No, Sony's brand isn't what's selling PS4's... Sony's popularity isn't what's winning people over. It's their hardware, pricing, solid messaging since day one, and competitive library of games.
So XBox 360 lower price & advantages in releasing earlier make it a popular (as in sales) choice then. Thanks for your clarification.
Better way to think of it....lower price, 1st on the market with new gen, better multiplats, etc....and it only sold about the same as PS3.
Just imagine how much more PS3s would have sold had it come out at the same time and cost less than what it released at...even if still more than 360, with equal multiplats.
Val's point being, the Sony brand, world wide, is more popular.
Yeah, the brand is popular, despite you saying otherwise. It managed to be about tied with 360 by generations end, with a whole year less on the market AND costing more AND having worse multiplats. Honestly, I'm surprised the PS3 didn't do worse. I like how people convince themselves that PS4 is doing better do to pricing and better hardware....when last gen showed us how well the PS brand did with higher price and worse hardware.
But go ahead and convince yourself that the PS brand is not popular.
Excellent example of yet another Qbert straw man being attacked. rather than what was actually contended.
I never claimed Sony's brand wasn't popular.
If you care enough about my posts to respond, you really need to catch the nuances.
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Fair enough, but you are saying that it's not the popularity that is selling the product. Of course it is. Yes, hardware, price, etc ARE indeed helping, but it's first and foremost a popular brand to begin with, especially world wide. Last gen showed us that Sony did not need a lower price, better hardware, etc to come out about equal with 360.
BS and Bias =blindness
XB never won a generation and at this rate..never will. PS popularity is way beyond that of the XB.
If the PS3 came out when the 360 did and was priced the same.
XBOX wouldn't be around today.
They just needed a realistic price. And better exclusives towards the end.
There's no doubt that Sony is more popular. They're more established and have a long history with their fans. So that should be a given.
I think Starseeker had it right. Sony isn't getting enough credit for what they did right as apposed to what Microsoft did wrong. I think the same is true of Microsoft last generation. They did a lot of things right to put themselves in the position to take a chunk of the market to go along with the fact that Sony stumbled all over themselves early on.
As it is, the PS3 did better than the 360. That's considering worse hardware and higher price.
I know some people like to think it did worse than 360, but it did not. When you break down how many were sold per year, the PS3 did better than 360.
Example (very rough numbers, I can't be arsed to go looking for numbers right now):
360:
As of last year, 8 years on the market, sold about 80 million
That's about 10 million a year
PS3
As of last year, 7 years on the market, sold about 80 million
That's about 11.4 million a year
So, at that higher price with worse versions of games....and still managed to do better.
Sony announced 7 million PS4s sold to consumers by April 6. After selling ~400k for 3 months, it's about 8.2-8.4 million right now.
There's no chance PS4 is past 9 million sold to consumers right now.
There's no chance PS4 is past 9 million sold to consumers right now.
Yes. But can you fully enjoy them knowing that they're being outsold 2:1? That means your console is only half as good.
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