Yeah, they won't do cross-play with Microsoft, f*** them, just ... Windows PC. s***, if Microsoft makes a deal with the company that makes Windows, Sony's grand strategy is f***ed.
Forbes article on PS4 and cross-play
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Yeah, they won't do cross-play with Microsoft, f*** them, just ... Windows PC. s***, if Microsoft makes a deal with the company that makes Windows, Sony's grand strategy is f***ed.
Dude, stop replying. You clearly aren't bothering to read what I actually typed, so there's no point in pretending. I point out the quote that was bolded, highlited, in a huge font and underlined that directly contradicts the lie you were pushing and all of a sudden you go three posts back and SOMEHOW think a completely different non-Sony quote I'm talking about is the one that was clearly from CDPR so you can call it vague?
Maybe it's vague because that quote was in reference to another point completely? What if I told you that you could read that post again and through pure magic it's context will be revealed and vagueness shattered?
Also, one more time you are making up stuff to argue against. My posts are here for anyone to read and you can reread them, there is no mincing of words that would lead you to assume I meant anything else. Is every response going to just be me telling you to reply to what I actually wrote?
There is no merge. PSN will always be PSN, XBL will XBL.
You don't know what you're even arguing here.
Also once again, if Sony doesn't allow crossplatform (console) crossplay the only people missing out are PS owners. I'm not sure if you think Sonys network >>>>>>>> "everything else combined", but thats a completely goofy take on reality.
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What is happening is the media is asking questions and Microsoft is answering. Hard to define that as Microsoft badgering.
All of this will come about from allowing a handful of games to be cross-play compatible?
Your just banging your head against the wall. It was the same crap in the PSVR thread too.
Every quote you've listed on their behalf is a vague message. You're reading too much into it. Period. In no instance do I clearly see them out right saying this. But if that's what you are most reliant on to prove a point, then ultimately were you already convinced from the start, so there's really no point in going much further on this.
I doubt it. There is a reason cross-play was boasted at their GDC. Everything starts off small, and I'm sure it would only improve with time had they hopped aboard.
Is it? Seems like a very sensitive wound to which they can't seem to relinquish:
https://fraghero.com/xbox-boss-responds-sonys-defense-rejecting-ps4-xbox-one-cross-play/
Its been over a year now, and Sony isn't biting. Yet, we are still hearing the cries. Come on already.
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Relevant to the topic at hand:
Nintendo Exec Explains Why Switch Cross-Play With Xbox One And PC Exists
Last week at E3 2017, Nintendo and Microsoft surprised many fans by announcing that Rocket League and Minecraft would be cross-play compatible between Nintendo Switch, Xbox One, and PC players. We've already heard a lot from Xbox boss Phil Spencer about why this functionality is possible, and today we got Nintendo's side of the story.
In an interview with GamesBeat, Nintendo of America corporate communications director Charlie Scibetta explained the thinking behind allowing Switch players to play with other consoles. According to him, the company views the situation as what is best for players--and that there's not much downside to it. Further, he stated that it's an example of a new effort on the part of Nintendo to be less rigid and restrictive.
"I'm really happy just as a gamer, let alone working for the company, that [cross play is] going to be possible," he said. "We're trying to be more flexible as a company. We're reaching out to try and get people to interact with our IP. In this case Rocket League is [developer Psyonix's] IP on our system, but we're trying to get people involved with us in any way we can."
"We want people to have a good time," he continued. "In the case of Rocket League... we said, let's make that happen. It's really not more complex than that. Every game is different. Some games are great for multiplayer, some are better as a single-player experience, some are better in all kinds of situations for all kinds of games. Rocket League works best with cross platform play. Let's make it happen."
Nintendo Exec Explains Why Switch Cross-Play With Xbox One And PC Exists
Last week at E3 2017, Nintendo and Microsoft surprised many fans by announcing that Rocket League and Minecraft would be cross-play compatible between Nintendo Switch, Xbox One, and PC players. We've already heard a lot from Xbox boss Phil Spencer about why this functionality is possible, and today we got Nintendo's side of the story.
In an interview with GamesBeat, Nintendo of America corporate communications director Charlie Scibetta explained the thinking behind allowing Switch players to play with other consoles. According to him, the company views the situation as what is best for players--and that there's not much downside to it. Further, he stated that it's an example of a new effort on the part of Nintendo to be less rigid and restrictive.
"I'm really happy just as a gamer, let alone working for the company, that [cross play is] going to be possible," he said. "We're trying to be more flexible as a company. We're reaching out to try and get people to interact with our IP. In this case Rocket League is [developer Psyonix's] IP on our system, but we're trying to get people involved with us in any way we can."
"We want people to have a good time," he continued. "In the case of Rocket League... we said, let's make that happen. It's really not more complex than that. Every game is different. Some games are great for multiplayer, some are better as a single-player experience, some are better in all kinds of situations for all kinds of games. Rocket League works best with cross platform play. Let's make it happen."
...are we reading the same article?
He was asked directly about something in an interview, to which he responded...
That's a 'very sensitive wound' to you? I can explain how an interview works, if the concept is foreign to you...
What you should be acknowledging more so than your imaginary wounds, is the bulls*** reasoning on behalf of Sony, especially after the Playroom fiasco.
They should have just flatout said "We don't wish to support this feature at this time" and leave it at that.
100% agreed. They should have said it last year to be honest if their "we do crossplatform all the time, lolz, we'll discuss it with developers" line wasn't in good faith.
Zero point in beating around the bush. Unless, you know, you just like to jerk off a bit.
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It wouldn't matter if they did; you already feel the way you want to feel about it anyway.
i could see if they were denying the actual game. I could even understand if they were denying the game online or maybe that online experience was very, very small in the form of Nintendo or worse. But, PlayStation Network is quite vast and steadily growing. These things here are pretty big issues to me because that would mean that the end user would have to completely forego that experience. This here is not the same. This here would be them stepping down a notch to mainly cater their lagging competition. So the incentive here is very small for them. Sorry, but no one's really missing out on anything right now, not with the platform already supporting cross-play. It's redundant more so than anything for them. And yes, the competition does appear a bit peeved right now because of it all.
Tough... move on. Maybe you'll have better luck next time, that or conjure up something a bit more appealing.
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Ok. But just to make this perfectly clear...
You are actively championing the fact that features were removed/denied from the game?
Correct?
The media just found out so this is the first time they have had to get answers
"Championing" and simply understand why something is the way it is are two different pieces all in itself. So why you are setting their judging that decision, you probably should try to understand "why" it was ever decided upon.
It would be easier to say that you don't agree and just move on. Its actually a very painless process, really.
Everyone of us can understand the why. It's smart, anti-competitor behaviour. Clever.
As a consumer, which you are too, it's perplexing to justify it.
If I'm buying something, I want more bang for my buck.
I'm not going to buy the game, and even if I did, I wouldn't play it in multiplayer anyway.
You also seem to think that we only give a s*** because it's Sony doing it. I think most of us in this thread, have said that it was a dick move when MS did it.
It's a douche thing when MS did it. And it is a douche move when Sony do it.
The only people missing out, are Sony's customers in this deal. Sure, it's not a lot, but seeing you try to spin this into a positive is kinda cray-cray.
I see you explaining their reasoning, and all of us pretty much know why... but it doesn't really matter why they actually did it.
Still, I admire your determination man.
I was just having a joke mate. I love your ability to turn and shape a discussion. It's endearing.
Since GDC 2016? You do know that Sony turned it down then, right? I think they had more than enough time to let that wound heal.
As a consumer, because we have the game, have online, and have cross-play do I think the loss here is not a major one. Sure, the deal didn't fall through, then oh well... Its obvious why it didn't, and perhaps there is something better on the way because of it. That's how I see it.
Which also explains why Microsoft would be peeved, right? Sony is their direct, LEADING competition as they are more alike to Microsoft than Nintendo. So that wound has been opened, and Microsoft are likely not taking that very well. So as i said before, when you are on top, people will do what they need to to take your position even if it means putting on a smile so that you can welcome them in pass your defenses. Its just the way it is, and I don't put this at all pass Microsoft. Sony obviously sees this and I can't fault them for it.
Striking any deal with them that would help elevate their success in the console space.
Online anything improves longevity. Imagine for a moment if you had all of that clout to work with from a competing server. Over 60 million units sold? That's alot of people keeping you afloat. The traffic would be immense even during droughts [I could only imagine Halo]. It could sustain you long enough to come up with better ideas to help push you forward. For EXAMPLE, with online in place and secured, why not take it a step further and strike a deal with developers for extra content for that title on your end, not necessarily online neither. Basically, it is enough to keep consumers interested in your system or the game running on that system until you can come up with another idea to get you through your drought, let along advertising: play with anyone no matter what system with exclusive content just for Xbox .
That's a real punch in the nose, but i can definitely see that happening if I were on top and someone wanted my position. No thank you. You could pull a EA all day by continuously tacking on crap to keep the same tired experience interesting, but if people keep coming then why not?
But wouldn't the advertisement look worse, with "Cross play unavailable only on PS4"?
And you keep talking as if the player base of the PS4 is the biggest drawcard that the game has going for it. It would probably sell a few million on a the PS4...
There are already 122 million copies of the game out there, with every tablet, PC, Xbox, and soon to be Nintendo able to play together.
It's not some super exclusive club. And by denying players the chance to play with their mates from the existing 122million people already attached to the community, are they more likely to buy the PS4 version, or just get the iPad/android version, and use Skype in the background?
It's not like it's beneficial for Sony financially. It's a move based on depriving their customers, and the competition.
Again, I'd never use the feature, but when I have clients come into work with their kids, so many of them plonk down on the couch, and play Minecraft while chatting away with their mates on their phones/Skype. I honestly figured the Minecraft fad would have ended years ago.
Anyway, it's obvious that we're never going to agree on this.
Shawn, I'm not sure if you play any games online but the difference in consoles sold is not directly reflected in game population at all. There's more players in some games, but not to a significant amount where it would even register in matchmaking search time. In regards to online, you're overselling the difference between XBO/PS4.
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