General console meh talk.

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de3d1 said:
That's all opinion and subjective. Zelda will win some "awards" lol. Yet some disregard Ryse when it won. When it comes to technically, Scorpio will deliver and that's can't be disputed.
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Riiight...I am not talking about hardware or what the hardware is capable of.
Technically Pro will be doing the same things as the Scorpio though with Scorp doing it better.
If we are talking about 3rd party titles they should be better although they might be limited by parity.
I see exclusives on Pro looking as good(this year better)
 
VaLLiancE said:
Riiight...I am not talking about hardware or what the hardware is capable of.
Technically Pro will be doing the same things as the Scorpio though with Scorp doing it better.
If we are talking about 3rd party titles they should be better although they might be limited by parity.
I see exclusives on Pro looking as good(this year better)
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Yeah I could see that happening simply because Sony's top teams seem to know how to marry art and tech in a way that I haven't seen from any of MS's studios yet up to this point. Like I said in another post even on the 360 the best looking games were 3rd party and not from any of MS's studios. Going purely on specs this shouldn't be the case but it's up to MS's first party studios to show what they can do.
 
de3d1 said:
Exactly? Since when did ps4 have a better cpu than XB1? Since when did PS4 have 3gb more RAM and way higher bandwidth? Plus better sound.
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Since when did Xbox has developers push their machines like Sony's devs do?
OG Xbox had a decent advantage in hardware...yet the PS2 had titles that could go toe with XB (although not many) and 3rd party games weren't that different.
I say that was a bigger jump than what XB Scorp vs PS4 Pro will show.
 
JinCA said:
Yeah I could see that happening simply because Sony's top teams seem to know how to marry art and tech in a way that I haven't seen from any of MS's studios yet up to this point. Like I said in another post even on the 360 the best looking games were 3rd party and not from any of MS's studios. Going purely on specs this shouldn't be the case but it's up to MS's first party studios to show what they can do.
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1st party studios are limited by the weaker XBO.
So the games will be hindered.
 
The Living Tribunal said:
I doubt we will see much implementation of checkerboard on the Scorpio. Native 4K being the selling point. If they can't get a game to run well at good settings at native 4K I can see devs dropping the resolution to 1440p/upscaling to 4K and simply dialing up the visual detail.
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We will see over half of 3rd party games on Scorpio using fake 4K.
 
cant you multi quote in one post

you do it just to inflate your count dont you
I got you figured out.
 
So... Sony has peaked for the year already?

May as well as sell your console if you've finished Horizon?
 
VaLLiancE said:
Since when did Xbox has developers push their machines like Sony's devs do?
OG Xbox had a decent advantage in hardware...yet the PS2 had titles that could go toe with XB (although not many) and 3rd party games weren't that different.
I say that was a bigger jump than what XB Scorp vs PS4 Pro will show.
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Xbox exclusives has never been about graphics, they innovated in other areas. In any case Ninja Gaiden, DOA and Splinter Cell to name a few on the original xbox was leaps ahead of PS2 games in the graphics department.
 
VaLLiancE said:
Since when did Xbox has developers push their machines like Sony's devs do?
OG Xbox had a decent advantage in hardware...yet the PS2 had titles that could go toe with XB (although not many) and 3rd party games weren't that different.
I say that was a bigger jump than what XB Scorp vs PS4 Pro will show.
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Multiplatforms. These days it's all about those. It doesn't need exclusives to have a superior multiplatform lineup. Whatever first party games are just icing.

BTW, you're crazy to say Xbox OG games weren't different from PS2. Some titles weren't even attempted on ps2 because of the hardware.
 
de3d1 said:
Multiplatforms. These days it's all about those. It doesn't need exclusives to have a superior multiplatform lineup. Whatever first party games are just icing.

BTW, you're crazy to say Xbox OG games weren't different from PS2. Some titles weren't even attempted on ps2 because of the hardware.
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Multiplats will be fine on the Pro.
Scorpio won't make a dent in this area.

EDIT: Hardware was better with XB and PS2 vs XB multiplats were virtually identical.
 
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JinCA said:
Yeah I could see that happening simply because Sony's top teams seem to know how to marry art and tech in a way that I haven't seen from any of MS's studios yet up to this point. Like I said in another post even on the 360 the best looking games were 3rd party and not from any of MS's studios. Going purely on specs this shouldn't be the case but it's up to MS's first party studios to show what they can do.
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But those same games will look good on regular ps4. When you talk about pro, then it's just a specs increase, and there its just specs increase, which scorpio will have superior spec games.
 
VaLLiancE said:
You won't have much of this on Scorpio either as neither have the horsepower.
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Then you'll see even bigger differences. If Scorpio drops down to similar resolution as pro, then the gpu has way more resources left over.
 
TheGeneral said:
Xbox exclusives has never been about graphics, they innovated in other areas. In any case Ninja Gaiden, DOA and Splinter Cell to name a few on the original xbox was leaps ahead of PS2 games in the graphics department.
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Xbox exclusives have been terrible vs playstation this gen and have looked worse in comparison.
PS2 had games that looked as good as XB.
Some like GOW 2...people thought was PS3 when it was 1st shown.
 
VaLLiancE said:
Multiplats will be fine on the Pro.
Scorpio won't make a dent in this area.

EDIT: Hardware was better with XB and PS2 vs XB multiplats were virtually identical.
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Multiplats will be fine on regular ps4, but superior to all on Scorpio.

I won't go much into the XB vs PS2, just google Doom 3 or Splinter Cell Chaos theory, two of the most graphically intense games of that generation. One of those was terrible on ps2, the other wasn't even attempted, neither was Half Life 2 because of hardware.
 
de3d1 said:
Multiplats will be fine on regular ps4, but superior to all on Scorpio.

I won't go much into the XB vs PS2, just google Doom 3 or Splinter Cell Chaos theory, two of the most graphically intense games of that generation. One of those was terrible on ps2, the other wasn't even attempted, neither was Half Life 2 because of hardware.
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I don't have to google anything... OG XB was the only XB console that was better than PS 2 me and I am well aware of its games. That gap that gen was bigger than the Scorpio vs Pro.
 
de3d1 said:
You can hope so, but that 3gb of RAM at much higher bandwidth isn't what ps4 had helping it, actually ps4 also had a slower cpu.
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PS4 and XBO have virtually the same CPU.
Scorpio and Pro also have virtually the same CPU.
3GB's of ram just adds a tad bit more details and makes it a tad bit easier to reach slightly higher resolutions.

Exclusives on Scorpio will be held back due to the XBO.
No spinning in the world will get me 2 see this differently (I am not accusing you of the spinning)

3rd party games will be held back by Pro Parity.

Of course Scorpio exclusives have potential to look great(that Forza pic is stunning)(but they would look better if not for XBO)

Of course Scorpio's 3rd party games have the potential to look better than Pro's but I strongly think we will NOT see major differences in most cases.
 
VaLLiancE said:
Xbox exclusives have been terrible vs playstation this gen and have looked worse in comparison.
PS2 had games that looked as good as XB.
Some like GOW 2...people thought was PS3 when it was 1st shown.
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GOW 2 with fixed camera angles boohoo. PS exclusives are just one genre - pretty scripted story driven 3rd person action / adventure. Nothing wrong, but nothing innovative either. Halo pushed boundaries, Gears of War pushed boundaries, Fable pushed boundaries, Forza stole the racing crown from GT and pushed boundaries. Each of these franchises you can pick one aspect and say yeah that was innovative or that was evolved.
 
PlayStation

Gran Turismo
Uncharted
Killzone
Gran Turismo
Uncharted
Killzone
Gran Turismo
Uncharted
Killzone


Did I miss anything?

Oh that's right! Drawn to Death 5/10.

Inb4 the thread lock
 
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Please don't lock the thread. The meltdowns are glorious to behold. They'll only s*** up other threads anyway so keep it here where they haven't got to keep up the pretence of interest in the most powerful console ever devised by man. :grin:
 
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Nah. Thread won't be locked. We need a hive of scum and villainy to discuss the differences. Plus it is a comprehensive repository so that way when the games do start coming out we can pull quotes when the inevitable backtracking occurs.
 
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