Which 4K HDR TV are you planning to buy for Scorpio or One s?

Yeah if some one wants OLED I would just get an LG, brighter HDR, better input lag and identical PQ for much less money. The stand on the Sony that tilits the screen sucks too.
 
The only 2 things the Z9D has over the LG OLED are higher brightness (which is irrelevant to me because my eyes are already hurt by the OLED's HDR highlights) and slightly better motion processing (if you choose to engage motion interpolation). Other than that, the LG OLED ranks higher in overall picture quality in pretty much every professional review out there. But to each his own.
I don't like the shadow details and blurry motion with OLED but to each is his own.
 
Nope its a better tech that even cheap TV's are adopting.
What does it matter if those cheap tvs can't match the nit count? I also doubt those cheap tvs can display the colors necessary. It's merely a bullet point for those tvs.
 
Bet the Sony OLED beats the LG this year due to its superior processing.

Better processing according to Sony, comparing the TVs proves otherwise
"The three 2017 OLED TVs I've tested -- the Sony A1E, the LG C7 and the LG E7 -- are essentially tied for picture quality. And it's the best I've ever tested. If I personally had to pick one and money wasn't a consideration, I'd base my choice on other considerations (style or features). That's how close they are.

Sony claims better video processing in its demos, but in my tests any advantage is minor, and LG actually handled sone processing tests better than Sony. The color on my Sony review sample was a bit more accurate, but the LGs were so close it again doesn't amount to a real advantage. Black and white levels, the building blocks of picture quality, are essentially the same. And it should come as no surprise that all three OLED TVs outperform any of the LCD-based TVs I've tested."
https://www.cnet.com/products/sony-xbr-65a1e/review/2/

Yeah I think I would rather save $1500 and have the TV with better input lag for games, and the TV without the kickstand that tilts the screen upward.
 
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Better processing according to Sony, comparing the TVs proves otherwise
"The three 2017 OLED TVs I've tested -- the Sony A1E, the LG C7 and the LG E7 -- are essentially tied for picture quality. And it's the best I've ever tested. If I personally had to pick one and money wasn't a consideration, I'd base my choice on other considerations (style or features). That's how close they are.

Sony claims better video processing in its demos, but in my tests any advantage is minor, and LG actually handled sone processing tests better than Sony. The color on my Sony review sample was a bit more accurate, but the LGs were so close it again doesn't amount to a real advantage. Black and white levels, the building blocks of picture quality, are essentially the same. And it should come as no surprise that all three OLED TVs outperform any of the LCD-based TVs I've tested."
https://www.cnet.com/products/sony-xbr-65a1e/review/2/

Yeah I think I would rather save $1500 and have the TV with better input lag for games, and the TV without the kickstand that tilts the screen upward.
We will see how it compares with the shootout.
 
Thinking about going with the LG C7 65", hoping it goes down in price by January (tax money). Just started looking at new receivers also that include atmos support, really way too much information out there!
 
Thinking about going with the LG C7 65", hoping it goes down in price by January (tax money). Just started looking at new receivers also that include atmos support, really way too much information out there!
Personally, I don't lnow how I feel about LG. I got a 55" recently for 700 (retails 1200, I think) for over my fireplace. It's HDR but I haven't been real impressed with it.
 
Personally, I don't lnow how I feel about LG. I got a 55" recently for 700 (retails 1200, I think) for over my fireplace. It's HDR but I haven't been real impressed with it.

Their LCD sets are alright, I have one in my daughters room. Their OLEDS however are top of the line, arguably the best TVs you can buy.
 
Thinking about going with the LG C7 65", hoping it goes down in price by January (tax money). Just started looking at new receivers also that include atmos support, really way too much information out there!

Frys had them in store only for a July 4th sale for $2400 (I paid $2700 last year for a 55"), which is crazy. So you should be able to get one for that price or maybe even lower next year. For atmos I have an Onkyo 757, which has been amazing.
 
Their LCD sets are alright, I have one in my daughters room. Their OLEDS however are top of the line, arguably the best TVs you can buy.

Yeah, OLEDS are a different category. I don't even know if Samsung has an OLED set available. Different tiers seem to change up where a manufacturer sits on a quality level.
 
Samsung TV's are behind the times tech.
They don't use Full Array in the 2017 models and aren't supporting Dolby Vision.
LG is the better of the 2 Korean companies.
 
Yeah, OLEDS are a different category. I don't even know if Samsung has an OLED set available. Different tiers seem to change up where a manufacturer sits on a quality level.

Nope no OLEDs from Samsung, but LGs OLEDs are better than any Samsung set. In the US only LG and Sony have OLED sets.
 
Frys had them in store only for a July 4th sale for $2400 (I paid $2700 last year for a 55"), which is crazy. So you should be able to get one for that price or maybe even lower next year. For atmos I have an Onkyo 757, which has been amazing.

That's what I'm hoping, thankfully there is a Frys next to my house. Was looking at a pioneer receiver which is only about 350, vsxlx101. But honestly not clued up on the audio side so much!
 
That's what I'm hoping, thankfully there is a Frys next to my house. Was looking at a pioneer receiver which is only about 350, vsxlx101. But honestly not clued up on the audio side so much!

I had a Pioneer 1030k before this Onkyo but for some reason it elevated the blacks so that they were grey. But it could have just been that particular model or unit, they are pretty much the same company now as Pioneer sold their AV business to Onkyo in 2015.

The thing I like about the new LG OLEDs is that they all offer the same PQ, the only thing that differentiates them is the design and soundbara on the more expensive models.
 
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I just saw a Sony X850D 75" TV on sale for just under $2400. It was a floor model. I never considered a 75" tv because I assumed it would be out of budget for good color quality. Any opinions on this deal? Will I find a better deal on a 75" before the end of the year?

Primary reason for my next TV is gaming...but man, a Game of Thrones party with a 75" on the wall seems sweet.
 
I just saw a Sony X850D 75" TV on sale for just under $2400. It was a floor model. I never considered a 75" tv because I assumed it would be out of budget for good color quality. Any opinions on this deal? Will I find a better deal on a 75" before the end of the year?

Primary reason for my next TV is gaming...but man, a Game of Thrones party with a 75" on the wall seems sweet.
I wouldn't get that older Edge Lit set.
For that price range Look into a 75 900E,Vizio M75-E1,Hisense 75H10D(should be coming soon)TCL 75C807(No Local Dimming but DV) and take a Look @ the LeEco models.
 
What does it matter if those cheap tvs can't match the nit count? I also doubt those cheap tvs can display the colors necessary. It's merely a bullet point for those tvs.
Well, when you think about it, DV actually helps less capable sets even more, since the parameters of what the set is capable of gets relayed dynamically back and forth with the content, making it a lot like each individual scene is professionally calibrated for your specific set, where as HDR10 is just the static content with a wider spectrum. I think that the difference in HDR methods should be a lot more pronounced in those less capable sets, since the better the tv's specs, the higher the spectrum, anyway. I do realize that DV has a broader pallette than HDR10, but it's real strength is how it tailors itself to each set, imo. Hopefully this makes sense.
 
Rtings.com updated list of Best Gaming TV's - Summer 2017
2017 TVs have come down in price at this point in the year, and a lot of the newer models offer good refinement over TVs from previous years. 2017 TVs tend to have less input lag and motion blur, which are the most important aspects for a good experience. Our picks work well for consoles and PC gaming at 60 Hz. Check out our recommendations for PC gaming at 120 Hz as well as the best TVs for HDR gaming for use with the new Xbox One X (Project Scorpio). Here are our recommendations for the best TVs for gaming.


Best TV for Gaming
The difference between the price ranges isn't as wide when it comes to gaming TVs. You can find an excellent gaming TV for quite cheap, but paying more for the premium models usually brings you a more versatile TV with better picture quality.


The Winner: LG C7 - 55" 65"


The best TV we've reviewed for playing video games is the LG C7 4k OLED TV. Not only does it feature the best picture quality currently available, it also has some of the lowest input lag found on any TV available today as well as virtually no motion blur.
Thanks to its virtually instant response time, fast motion looks incredibly fluid and crisp. The overall package offers a very responsive and immersive experience unmatched by competing LED TVs like the Samsung Q9F and Sony Z9D.

It's versatile too: its wide viewing angle means it's equally good for playing games with friends sitting on either side without a big effect on picture quality. The LG C7 isn't the brightest TV available, but it still offers the best gaming experience available today.


The Runner Up: LG B6 - 55" 65"

If you can still find it, the LG B6 OLED TV from 2016 offers the same picture quality as the LG C7 with slightly higher input lag. If you're a more casual player, you probably won't notice the difference and it's worth saving your money and going for the previous model.



Best Mid-Range TV for Gaming
You don't lose much in this price range as far as gaming goes. Mid-range TVs are less versatile, though, so not as good as pricier models if you plan on watching movies or HDR.


The Winner: Sony X900E - 49" 55" 65" 75"

For a mid-range option, we recommend the Sony X900E. It's a versatile 4k LED TV that's especially good for playing video games, thanks to its low input lag and motion blur. Thanks to its good value compared to the competing Samsung MU8000 and LG SJ8500, it's a good choice if you want some of the best picture quality found on an LED TV .

It doesn't have blacks as deep as what an OLED TV can do, but it's still a great performer in a dark room thanks to its well-executed local dimming feature. It's brighter by a fair margin too, which is great if you planned to use it in a well-lit environment.

Overall, the X900E is sure to please most gamers, especially if it isn't the only thing it's going to be used for. It's the best alternative to OLEDs if they are out of your budget.


The Runner Up: X850 E - 65" 75"

For something larger, the Sony X850E offers a great gaming experience with low input lag for more value for its size than the Sony X900E. It doesn't have the fancy local dimming and it isn't quite as bright as the more expensive model, but it's a good choice if you want the largest TV you can fit in your budget.



Best Budget TV for Gaming
Budget TVs offer a lot of value nowadays, and their input lag is just as low as more expensive TVs. You do lose on the overall fit and finish as well as brightness, but they can still be a good purchase.


The Winner: TCL P607 - 55" 65"

If you don't mind having a cheaper looking design, the TCL P607 is the best budget gaming TV we've tested. This 4k LED TV offers some of the best value on the market today and punches far above its weight class. It also sports a slew of features unusual for its price.

The TCL P-Series' input lag is one of the lowest we've tested at 15ms, making it an excellent choice for fast-paced games that require split-second reactions. Its handling of motion is no slouch either and motion blur is some of the lowest found on LED TVs. It's not quite as versatile as the more expensive Sony X900E, but unless you want the extra features found on the Sony, the P607 is simply the best budget gaming TV money can buy.


All Reviews
Our recommendations above are what we think are currently the best TVs to play video games for most people in each price range. We factor in the price (a cheaper TV wins over a pricier one if the difference isn't worth it), feedback from our visitors and availability (no TVs that are difficult to find or almost out of stock everywhere).

A few examples of TVs that didn't make the cut:

LG SJ8500. Good TV, but there are better TVs for playing video games in the same price range.
Samsung KS8000. Great gaming TV, but hard to find nowadays.
Samsung Q9F. Very good for playing video games, but poorly priced in comparison to the more versatile LG C7.
Sony A1E. Excellent gaming TV, but the LG C7 offers even better performance for cheaper. See our review
Vizio M Series 2017. Good mid-range TV for gaming, but outclassed by the similarly priced P607.


http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/bes...e/video-gaming
 
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Rtings.com updated list of Best Gaming TV's - Summer 2017
2017 TVs have come down in price at this point in the year, and a lot of the newer models offer good refinement over TVs from previous years. 2017 TVs tend to have less input lag and motion blur, which are the most important aspects for a good experience. Our picks work well for consoles and PC gaming at 60 Hz. Check out our recommendations for PC gaming at 120 Hz as well as the best TVs for HDR gaming for use with the new Xbox One X (Project Scorpio). Here are our recommendations for the best TVs for gaming.


Best TV for Gaming
The difference between the price ranges isn't as wide when it comes to gaming TVs. You can find an excellent gaming TV for quite cheap, but paying more for the premium models usually brings you a more versatile TV with better picture quality.


The Winner: LG C7 - 55" 65"


The best TV we've reviewed for playing video games is the LG C7 4k OLED TV. Not only does it feature the best picture quality currently available, it also has some of the lowest input lag found on any TV available today as well as virtually no motion blur.
Thanks to its virtually instant response time, fast motion looks incredibly fluid and crisp. The overall package offers a very responsive and immersive experience unmatched by competing LED TVs like the Samsung Q9F and Sony Z9D.

It's versatile too: its wide viewing angle means it's equally good for playing games with friends sitting on either side without a big effect on picture quality. The LG C7 isn't the brightest TV available, but it still offers the best gaming experience available today.


The Runner Up: LG B6 - 55" 65"

If you can still find it, the LG B6 OLED TV from 2016 offers the same picture quality as the LG C7 with slightly higher input lag. If you're a more casual player, you probably won't notice the difference and it's worth saving your money and going for the previous model.



Best Mid-Range TV for Gaming
You don't lose much in this price range as far as gaming goes. Mid-range TVs are less versatile, though, so not as good as pricier models if you plan on watching movies or HDR.


The Winner: Sony X900E - 49" 55" 65" 75"

For a mid-range option, we recommend the Sony X900E. It's a versatile 4k LED TV that's especially good for playing video games, thanks to its low input lag and motion blur. Thanks to its good value compared to the competing Samsung MU8000 and LG SJ8500, it's a good choice if you want some of the best picture quality found on an LED TV .

It doesn't have blacks as deep as what an OLED TV can do, but it's still a great performer in a dark room thanks to its well-executed local dimming feature. It's brighter by a fair margin too, which is great if you planned to use it in a well-lit environment.

Overall, the X900E is sure to please most gamers, especially if it isn't the only thing it's going to be used for. It's the best alternative to OLEDs if they are out of your budget.


The Runner Up: X850 E - 65" 75"

For something larger, the Sony X850E offers a great gaming experience with low input lag for more value for its size than the Sony X900E. It doesn't have the fancy local dimming and it isn't quite as bright as the more expensive model, but it's a good choice if you want the largest TV you can fit in your budget.



Best Budget TV for Gaming
Budget TVs offer a lot of value nowadays, and their input lag is just as low as more expensive TVs. You do lose on the overall fit and finish as well as brightness, but they can still be a good purchase.


The Winner: TCL P607 - 55" 65"

If you don't mind having a cheaper looking design, the TCL P607 is the best budget gaming TV we've tested. This 4k LED TV offers some of the best value on the market today and punches far above its weight class. It also sports a slew of features unusual for its price.

The TCL P-Series' input lag is one of the lowest we've tested at 15ms, making it an excellent choice for fast-paced games that require split-second reactions. Its handling of motion is no slouch either and motion blur is some of the lowest found on LED TVs. It's not quite as versatile as the more expensive Sony X900E, but unless you want the extra features found on the Sony, the P607 is simply the best budget gaming TV money can buy.


All Reviews
Our recommendations above are what we think are currently the best TVs to play video games for most people in each price range. We factor in the price (a cheaper TV wins over a pricier one if the difference isn't worth it), feedback from our visitors and availability (no TVs that are difficult to find or almost out of stock everywhere).

A few examples of TVs that didn't make the cut:

LG SJ8500. Good TV, but there are better TVs for playing video games in the same price range.
Samsung KS8000. Great gaming TV, but hard to find nowadays.
Samsung Q9F. Very good for playing video games, but poorly priced in comparison to the more versatile LG C7.
Sony A1E. Excellent gaming TV, but the LG C7 offers even better performance for cheaper. See our review
Vizio M Series 2017. Good mid-range TV for gaming, but outclassed by the similarly priced P607.


http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/bes...e/video-gaming
Kinda sad to see Samsung fall behind this year, but such is the nature of competition! Nice to see my Tv (though mine's curved )get a nod though, even if it IS hard to find.

Yeah, that LG at 65" is nearly four grand!
 
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Kinda sad to see Samsung fall behind this year, but such is the nature of competition! Nice to see my Tv (though mine's curved )get a nod though, even if it IS hard to find.

Yeah, that LG at 65" is nearly four grand!

That LG is nearly twice as much as the Sony 900E and more than twice the Samsung 8000. The TCL ratings are interesting. Looks like they've overtaken Visio for value pricing.