Which 4K HDR TV are you planning to buy for Scorpio or One s?
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Yes, I spent $2700 last year on a 55" C6. It's amazing, the B7 is an even better set. Just won best HDR TV and best gaming TV the U.K. TV shootout.
I say go for size(especially with 4K) if you can but the PQ needs to be good(avoid edge lit led)
I owned a 65 inch and now a 75 inch and when I had the 65 inch...for the 1st in my experience it seemed I was finally satisfied with my TV's size. I went with 75 inch because I always go up in size.
This. I have my walls a dark blue in my living room/home theatre and when the lights are off and watching my OLED it's like the picture is floating, can't see the bezel.
If that is the set he is considering, that is the one I have that still gives me a boner every time I turn it on. It has been absolutely awesome for gaming with the PS4 Pro and X1S. Can't wait to get the X1X running with it.
I wouldn't think twice if it was the 9800 haha it's the UN65KS9500. I see I can get a 49" Sony x900e and save a bit of cash. If I were to go small like that it will probably be more of a gaming set up and sitting a few feet away from the screen
Best HDR TV: LG B7 OLED
Best Gaming TV: LG B7 OLED
Best Living Room TV: Sony A1 OLED
Best Home Theater TV: Panasonic EZ1002 OLED
Best Overall TV of 2017: Panasonic EZ1002 OLED
ROUND ONE:
Contrast Performance:
- Black Level
- Shadow Detail
- Bright Detail
Colour Performance:
ROUND TWO:
Motion:
- Clarity
- Smoothness
Uniformity:
- Dark Uniformity
- Bright Uniformity
ROUND THREE:
Video Processing:
- Upscaling
- Gradiation
- Compressed Source Handling
Gaming:
- Input Lag
- Picture Quality
ROUND FOUR:
Bright Room:
- Light Output
- Anti-Reflection
HDR:
- Dark Scenes
- 1000 nits
- 4000 nits
With respect to each and every of the above categories, the judges were required to allocate each TV with a score ranging from 1 (lowest) to 5 (highest score).
Contrast Performance:
Panasonic EZ1002 first with 4.62; Sony 65A1 second with 4.43.
Color Accuracy:
Panasonic EZ1002 first with 4.70; LG B7 second with 4.37
Motion:
Sony A1 first with 4.35; Panasonic EZ1002 second with 4.19
Uniformity:
Panasonic EZ1002 first with 4.49; Sony A1 second with 4.10
Video Processing:
Sony A1 first with 4.51; Sony ZD9 second with 3.98
Gaming:
LG B7 first with 4.46; Panasonic EZ1002 second with 4.11
Bright Room:
Samsung Q9 first with 4.37; Sony ZD9 second with 3.77
HDR:
LG B7 first with 4.19; Panasonic EZ1002 second with 4.11
Best home theatre TV (contrast + color + dark uniformity):
Panasonic 1st with 13.67 (mainly because of color accuracy compared with Sony BVM-X300 professional broadcast monitor); Sony A1 2nd with 12.63
Best living room TV (motion + video processing + uniformity + bright room):
Sony A1 tops with 15.89 (mainly because of video processing with smoothing of gradients, and less noise in compressed sources); Panasonic EZ1002 2nd with 15.45
Best gaming TV:
As per individual gaming category.
Best HDR TV:
LG OLED65B7, (mainly due to lower ABL - Automatic Brightness Limiter and hence brighter picture than other OLEDs; also dynamic tone-mapping which retains specular highlight detail).
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HDTVtest 2017 TV Shootout: Panasonic EZ1002 OLED Takes Top Prize
I was so close yesterday to buying a 65" TV for about 2K....but after seeing the side by side comparisons, I'm holding off for an Oled. I'll just wait even if it means having to wait until feb/march when prices come back down. Hopefully 65" oleds can be found for under 2500 by then.
This year I'll settle for my less expensive 4K monitor that I'll use for online shooters. It'll be interesting to see if any games take advantage of vsync this year.
This year I'll settle for my less expensive 4K monitor that I'll use for online shooters. It'll be interesting to see if any games take advantage of vsync this year.
Best Buy guys said that OLEDs have burn in issues with gaming and that burn in is no longer covered under their Geek Squad warranty. Anyone know the validity of this? If true, I may be leaning into Sony's XBR900E now which is down to 1800 for a 65". Hoping to find it around 1400 to 1500 during Black Friday.
You will hear by its fans its not a issue but to me it is enough to skip the tech.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...-general/2804065-oled-screen-burn-photos.html
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...-general/2804065-oled-screen-burn-photos.html
One of the things that skews the ratings for gamers is how heavily they weigh input lag in their scores. For single player games or non twitchy online stuff, anything below 40ms seems to be fine. When playing competitive online twitchy shooters, going with a monitor is ideal because the difference of 20ms can add up when combined with other latency. That's why I'm not sure how seriously to take these ratings for low end brands with low input lag that are getting high ratings. For me, it's all about the quality of the HDR and overall image quality.
Right now Sony's 900E seems to win every head to head in HDR in the mid price point. Only complication is the idea of a curved tv really grew on me for these single player games. I think I'd get a lot out of a curved due to the fact I sit dead on when gaming.
Right now Sony's 900E seems to win every head to head in HDR in the mid price point. Only complication is the idea of a curved tv really grew on me for these single player games. I think I'd get a lot out of a curved due to the fact I sit dead on when gaming.
I've been looking hard for a good tv that will be future proof and within a certain price point. I arrived at the debate between a gaming monitor or a tv and it further complicated my decision as not many monitors have HDR support yet. I will be sitting pretty darn close to my tv or monitor so size was never really an issue and I would like to hook my pc up to it as well..
I think what my final decision is going to be is to wait til next years models arrive cuz I am hoping more monitor companies jump on the HDR train then it'll be a win win for me, only bad thing is my gaming rig has dual 1070's and xbone x is going to be AMD. The one TV I would want is the 900e this year I think it's probably the best tv I can get in my price range, however it's hard to ignore Samsungs lower input lag. What a huge cluster so far haha but then part of me is like screw it just pick up a 50" m series vizio for now and get something better in a few years, it's hard convincing the wife of that idea tho haha
Yeah it ain't easy supported HDR formats, input lag, PQ. I'm really looking @ the TCL for < 1/2 the price of rivals and checks all those requirements it is pretty hard to beat....
After reading Rtngs, DF and IGN, it appears the consensus is:
- LG B7 for high end
- Sony 900E for mid range
- TCL for budget.
I may be a flip-flipper all the way until Black Friday.
Despite the fact that all the reviews say it's clearly Sony's 900E, users continue to swear by the Samsung for gaming. Last years KS8000 is this years MU9000...and gamers say less bloom gives the advantage to Samsung for gaming despite the fact its edge lit. All workers in two different Best Buys recommended the Samsung 9000 for gaming. Amazon reviews have it rated higher as well. Curious about this disconnect between the professionals and the gamers.
Despite the fact that all the reviews say it's clearly Sony's 900E, users continue to swear by the Samsung for gaming. Last years KS8000 is this years MU9000...and gamers say less bloom gives the advantage to Samsung for gaming despite the fact its edge lit. All workers in two different Best Buys recommended the Samsung 9000 for gaming. Amazon reviews have it rated higher as well. Curious about this disconnect between the professionals and the gamers.
Well looks like thing's got a lot more...confusing...https://news.samsung.com/global/interview-how-samsung-is-ushering-in-the-hdr10-era
from what I have read: taken from a post on AVS forums: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...000-4k-uhd-owners-thread-48.html#post51396705
post #1415:
HDR10+ INFORMATION:
Here are the facts, confirmed via email from the product development director and the two leading engineers at Samsung:
There is no upgrade path for HDR10+ (AKA, "dynamic HDR 10") available ahead of the hardware update to HDMI 2.1 which is required to support HDR10+ from UHD Blu-Ray discs.
Model year 2016 Samsung HDR TVs can now support HDR10+ via streaming only; their HDMI 2.0a inputs will only support HDR10 from UHD Blu-Ray discs.
Model year 2017 Samsung HDR TVs can now support HDR10+ via streaming only; their HDMI 2.0b inputs will only support HDR10 from UHD Blu-Ray discs.
Model year 2018 Samsung HDR TVs will support HDR10+ via streaming as well as on their HDMI 2.1 inputs.
So looks like holding off until 2018 samsung's may be the best option, why do things have to change so much in so little time :/
from what I have read: taken from a post on AVS forums: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...000-4k-uhd-owners-thread-48.html#post51396705
post #1415:
HDR10+ INFORMATION:
Here are the facts, confirmed via email from the product development director and the two leading engineers at Samsung:
There is no upgrade path for HDR10+ (AKA, "dynamic HDR 10") available ahead of the hardware update to HDMI 2.1 which is required to support HDR10+ from UHD Blu-Ray discs.
Model year 2016 Samsung HDR TVs can now support HDR10+ via streaming only; their HDMI 2.0a inputs will only support HDR10 from UHD Blu-Ray discs.
Model year 2017 Samsung HDR TVs can now support HDR10+ via streaming only; their HDMI 2.0b inputs will only support HDR10 from UHD Blu-Ray discs.
Model year 2018 Samsung HDR TVs will support HDR10+ via streaming as well as on their HDMI 2.1 inputs.
So looks like holding off until 2018 samsung's may be the best option, why do things have to change so much in so little time :/
Nah cause Samsung newer sets aren't up to par with other high end brands.
Dolby Vision is the bigger much more supported standard.
Thx 4 this but they got the input lag way off 4 the z9d as its 24 ms in HDR not 45.
Picking up my Panasonic 4kUHD tv on Tuesday.
My parents need a new tv for the living room so ill give them my current one which is less than 2 years old
My parents need a new tv for the living room so ill give them my current one which is less than 2 years old
Wonder if this might drive LG to offer the same warranty. Would've been nice if whatever partnership MS had meant some future guanteee of Freesync 2 being offered through an update.