I gotta say that the mods have been doing a great job of late, there seems to be some separation of fanboys now and less thread derailing.
Will the Xbox One go down as the greatest console of all time?
- Thread starter TDbank24
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What a crybaby. You're one of the few left that complains about my posts. So it's not okay to be genuinely excited about the best console i've ever played the Xbox One? Think it's an act? Want to Skype so i can show you i'm the same person in the real as i am here? Didn't think so.
Please point out to me the last time i've had anything negative to say about anything. A troll is someone who purposely and continuously puts down others and their console or platform of choice just for the sake of doing so. You've got the wrong guy. You're either not very bright, or you're just upset that i have the freedom of speech. Take your pick.
My first console was the NES and ive owned every Nintendo system, Dreamcast, PS2, PS3, Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One. I have enjoyed every system I have ever owned other then the PS3. Right now my favorite of all time was the 360, I had some damn good times on that system and it was my most played. With that being said now that I have the Xbox One I have zero desire to turn my 360 on. I do see potential for this to be the greatest system ever, to soon to tell now but with a few updates, a few things fixed and some great games down the road it definitely could be.
Except you arent genuinely excited. We proved that you were a stealth troll back on team xbox since you would post the exact opposite of posts on teamxbox on psu.com.
Im a very bright guy because i dont buy your schtick, because it's exactly that.
30.0 broudband. That's all I know,lol cost around $50 month. Normally when I play online people ask me to be party leader. I don't think its because of my gaming skill.
Becouse we have been brought up to "Not Snitch" and expect mods to have no life except to go through every single post put on this site.
Well at least that the way it is for me,lol. Enjoy the new year everyone!
No, the speed, the speed! lol.
When you download something, how many MB/second do you get?
I don't know man! I'm guessing 30.0 I'm very ignorant when it comes to stuff like this! Never needed it before a couple years ago. Anyways I can't complain, all this equipment was here when I moved in,lol, so its not like I can call the cable company and ask. I say $50 a month because that's what they advertise on tv.
Wish I got 30 
I'm out of town and rocking 6... that's barely enough to stream, lol.
On the issue of greatest console- the machines been out for a month and a half. We won't know the answer till the end.
I find the gloom from someone people laughable. There were tons of great games last gen and there will be plenty this gen. Personally, I can't play old games for more than a half hour before they get boring. Nostalgia only goes so far.
I'm out of town and rocking 6... that's barely enough to stream, lol. On the issue of greatest console- the machines been out for a month and a half. We won't know the answer till the end.
I find the gloom from someone people laughable. There were tons of great games last gen and there will be plenty this gen. Personally, I can't play old games for more than a half hour before they get boring. Nostalgia only goes so far.
You don't need to be someone who is a 'Microsoft Engineer' (term used loosely) to understand that the main areas where the XB1 is deficient cannot be solved by a low bandwidth high latency connection. I quoted 100MB/s - 1GB/s because its roughly 0.2% - 2% of the main memory bandwidth of the console, the latency requirement (20ms) was quoted because you don't really want to have multi frame pop in for anything that is happening. Now granted we are talking about things such as graphics and physics here which require a large amount of bandwidth and a low amount of latency. Further more they have not exactly provisioned the highest amount of power for each console in the cloud (iirc its ~300/400GFLOPS) meaning your not going to be exactly Titan level of high end PC performance out of it, especially after you factor in the time related costs to transmit the data both ways and to process the data on the server.
You could get away with higher latency and lower bandwidth if you were doing things that did not require immediate displaying.
Means his connection is extremely fast. Faster than most the country apparently.
Mine is only 6 Mbps down. Which means his is 15x faster.
You still haven't offered any viable reasoning behind your statement(s) ... other than posting some rather odd and inane bandwidth numbers that have no relevance to cloud programming and the concepts that would be in use... no programmer in their right mind would transmit the amount of data across the wire that you're alluding to here... yes it'd be slow and would require a huge amount of bandwidth....
That's not the point behind cloud programming... it's a balancing act.. and there's pros and cons to using the technology (including physical network transportation constraints) - latency and time on wire are much larger impacts here than overall bandwidth...
the bandwidth numbers are the amount required to do anything of use with graphics and physics. Other things as stated could use less. Can we also stop calling it cloud programming :| this isn't something new and magical its just virtualised servers, its just normal programming.
Untouched by any competing current gen console. It's a hair less powerful than the closest competitor, but it doesn't end there. The actual physical hardware itself is better. It's quieter, better cooled, has full I/R blaster, includes an HD motion camera, HDMI in and HDMI out hardware, WIFI Direct, more USB ports, a REAL headset (not some ear bud), longer lasting battery life in controllers, digital wideband hardware in controller, the best sound processors, with three multitasking operating system that control the hardware as well as all the hardware in your entertainment center. All that, and still neck and neck in performance.
It's a good day to own an Xbox One.
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I'm happy you are happy with your console and those are nice features, but it's not neck and neck in performance and the Xbox One isn't better cooled, it runs hotter (http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...ter-and-yet-more-powerful-than-the-xbox-one/2). The specs are significantly better on the PS4 (http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/156273-xbox-720-vs-ps4-vs-pc-how-the-hardware-specs-compare). As far as "best sound processors," the PS4 is the only console that I'm aware of that has AMD's latest audio processor technology (TrueAudio): http://gearnuke.com/playstation-4-amds-trueaudio-dsp/
Except for EA Sports, all the multiplatform games run and look better on the PS4 (http://www.eurogamer.net/?topic=digital_foundry). Some are even running double the resolution, while games that really push the hardware like BF4 not only have a close to 60% higher resolution on the PS4, they are also running at a 10-15fps higher frame rate (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-next-gen-face-off). Though there are always some variabilities among developers, resolution and frame rate scales linearly with power as any PC gamer knows.
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Yup, and it's early. Like the more powerful PS3 that trailed for years. It looks like the Xbox One is in the same boat. Luckily, the newest games that are coming out are all running the same res and framerates as the PS4.
But this is about hardware. And as I mentioned above, the X1 is clearly leaps ahead of the PS4.
Which ones are those? No major multiplatform games have been released since launch. We know that alpha/beta testers for Destiny confirm 1080P on PS4 and "sub 1080P" on Xbox One, and that the PS4 version looks better. Kind of like all of the other major multiplatform games so no surprise there.
How so again? It has worse hardware specs, worse CPU, worse GPU, slower main memory (DDR3 vs GDDR5), worse cooling and runs hotter, worse sound processor technology with no latest AMD TrueAudio. Are you talking about hardware features like HDMI in and the included headset?
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You must not have read my post stating:
"Untouched by any competing current gen console. It's a hair less powerful than the closest competitor, but it doesn't end there. The actual physical hardware itself is better. It's quieter, better cooled, has full I/R blaster, includes an HD motion camera, HDMI in and HDMI out hardware, WIFI Direct, more USB ports, a REAL headset (not some ear bud), longer lasting battery life in controllers, digital wideband hardware in controller, the best sound processors, with three multitasking operating system that control the hardware as well as all the hardware in your entertainment center. All that, and still neck and neck in performance.
It's a good day to own an Xbox One."
And yes, Tomb Raider of course is 1080p native on Xbox One (the again, no reason it can't...if the PS4 can do it, the X1 can do it).
http://www.vg247.com/2013/12/09/tomb-raider-definitive-edition-xbox-one-runs-at-native-1080p/
Of course the X1 that has the better sound processor, the better cpu, the better physical hardware, the better cooling, the better quietness, more hardware features and better camera, better pretty much everything except GPU and RAM type. Though the X1 has more available RAM.
So yeah, I know you enjoy your console, but don't let it fool you. Good thing I am a fan of both though. The PS4 is a good secondary unit for the few exclusives that Sony has.
The whole point is the power is different though. If the PS4 can do something, that doesn't mean the Xbox One can do it. Can the Xbox One run BF4 at an increased resolution of 900P and with a 15fps higher frame rate? How come it doesn't? Can the Xbox One run AC4 at 1080P with AA instead of 900P without AA? How come it doesn't? Are the developers lazy?
No, the PS4 is the only one with the latest AMD TrueAudio processor. http://gearnuke.com/playstation-4-amds-trueaudio-dsp/
No, the PS4 CPU is slightly better and has a higher benchmark (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=737629), and probably has a higher clock speed (http://n4g.com/news/1400733/ps4-vs-xbox-one-clockspeed-battle-says-ps4-likely-ahead).
What do you mean "physical hardware" (if not for the all of the specifications and cooling)? You means the physical build? To quote ExtremeTech's teardown and analysis of both consoles that is in the link I provided, "The Xbox One is basically just a motherboard with a PC-style Blu-ray drive, 2.5-inch hard drive, and an APU with a huge heatsink and fan. There is a lot of empty space in the Xbox One — and don’t forget there’s a separate power brick, too. It would seem the PS4 is much better engineered physically than the Xbox One."
No, the PS4 runs cooler as I linked to earlier: http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/171440-how-is-the-ps4-smaller-lighter-and-yet-more-powerful-than-the-xbox-one. You have to admit that is a pretty nice feat considering it not only runs cooler, but is also smaller, lighter and more powerful too.
Yes, the XB1 runs 1 db quieter (http://www.gamefront.com/how-loud-is-the-xbox-one-compared-to-ps4/) which is a difference most humans can't detect (http://www.harbeth.co.uk/usergroup/showthread.php?1052-1dB-Difference-an-experiment-in-audibility).
Don't get me wrong, it is a great console, but it does not have even equal, let alone better hardware, unless you ignore all of the above links and define "hardware" as everything but the hardware specifications of the console, the CPU, the GPU, the RAM, the audio, the physically engineered build and even the cooling.
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Looks like we are going no where, as you are not even reading what has been posted.
I read what you wrote and I agree with what you said except the points where I quoted you, and I provided links for each quote why those things you said weren't true. Did you read those links?
Either way in the end it's all good. You don't need to have the better hardware to necessarily have the better console in the end. It's all about the games and how much fun you personally are having with it.
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Greatest Console of all times (as of now) was the PS2. Until someone can top what it did it will be the king.
I'm an X1 fanboy let me make that clear. EVERYTHING I have read has said the PS4 is more powerful.