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Not sure Crap Gamer is the "authority" we should be listening to.... Still... I hope it's true...
Digital Foundry and AMD might as well shut down. Crap gamer is the Word of Jesus and Allah combined.
Starting to wonder if Brad Wardell is leading any Xbox projects. Guy kisses way too much DX12 secret sauce butt for someone who's not getting anything from MS. He's been talking like this since OG Xbox One launched. Remember when he said dx12 would allow Lord of the Rings caliber visuals on Xbox?
I'd love for Wardell to prove the naysayers wrong but he hasn't deserved the benefit of the doubt.
I'd love for Wardell to prove the naysayers wrong but he hasn't deserved the benefit of the doubt.
They're all just Xbox enthusiast talking about articles online. None are insiders. It would be like Union VGF having a YouTube channel to talk about any little Xbox news we could dig up.
None of them should be used as a source. No reason to hate on them either. They're just fans talking. What they are good at is promoting even the tiniest new Xbox info they can dig up online.
Iies and way over-exaggeration are reasons to black list them.
All 3 have done the above.
I think MaDz is fair and post some good news/rumors. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbk2FgaqZ2ZHJAdrrclTqtg
I heard Scorpio graphics are so sexy, they spontanously conjour big breasts in wet tshirts.
On a more serious note I can't wait to see what it looks like. Wasn't a fan of the fat Xbox One design but the S is superb. If reports are true that it's actually smaller than S.... crazy and with built in power brick.
What DF said about how Scorpio automatically improves existing games without any dev input is awesome. Hopefully that means shorter loading for Witcher 3,it should. But after watching DF' s videos and reading the articles, one thing is for certain and that's that team Xbox has really knocked it out of the park.
Furthermore I'm really wondering what they will call it. I still say go for Xbox Scorpio because I really dig that name, it sounds good! Any guesses what the price could be? A mic drop moment so to speak for the price would be great...... but What price will make people go "oh s***"? 399?
What DF said about how Scorpio automatically improves existing games without any dev input is awesome. Hopefully that means shorter loading for Witcher 3,it should. But after watching DF' s videos and reading the articles, one thing is for certain and that's that team Xbox has really knocked it out of the park.
Furthermore I'm really wondering what they will call it. I still say go for Xbox Scorpio because I really dig that name, it sounds good! Any guesses what the price could be? A mic drop moment so to speak for the price would be great...... but What price will make people go "oh s***"? 399?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution
Edit: the actual name for 1440p is QHD, not 2K. People calling it that doesn't make it any more correct. It is called DCI 2K because of 2000 pixels wide, so whatever. They called it that for that reason. Calling QHD 2K sells it short, imo; since it's 2560 wide. I'm not familiar with calling it that. Do you have a link? On Wikipedia, it's called QHD/WQHD. I see no mention of a second term for 2K other than DCI 2K.
They might call that 2K, but that does not make 1080p 1K in any shape or form.
Edit: the actual name for 1440p is QHD, not 2K. People calling it that doesn't make it any more correct. It is called DCI 2K because of 2000 pixels wide, so whatever. They called it that for that reason. Calling QHD 2K sells it short, imo; since it's 2560 wide. I'm not familiar with calling it that. Do you have a link? On Wikipedia, it's called QHD/WQHD. I see no mention of a second term for 2K other than DCI 2K.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution
2K resolution is a generic term for display devices or content having horizontal resolution of approximately 2,000 pixels.[1] Digital Cinema Initiatives (DCI) defines 2K resolution standard as 2048×1080.[2][3]
In the movie projection industry, Digital Cinema Initiatives is the dominant standard for 2K output. In the digital film production chain, a resolution of 2048×1556 is often used for acquiring "open gate" or anamorphic input material, a resolution based on the historical resolution of scanned Super 35mm film
Note: it may be a movie term, but that's where the term comes from. There is also no other definition given.
Ok. Even if you call 1440p 2k (it's really 2.5K), that does not make 1080p 1K, since is still close to 2,000 pixels wide
2K resolution is a generic term for display devices or content having horizontal resolution of approximately 2,000 pixels.[1] Digital Cinema Initiatives (DCI) defines 2K resolution standard as 2048×1080.[2][3]
In the movie projection industry, Digital Cinema Initiatives is the dominant standard for 2K output. In the digital film production chain, a resolution of 2048×1556 is often used for acquiring "open gate" or anamorphic input material, a resolution based on the historical resolution of scanned Super 35mm film
Note: it may be a movie term, but that's where the term comes from. There is also no other definition given.
Ok. Even if you call 1440p 2k (it's really 2.5K), that does not make 1080p 1K, since is still close to 2,000 pixels wide
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I know the actual names and what is supposed to be what, but my point is that that what is commonly referred to as 2k gaming is far more than the dictionary definition used by the movie industry, and thus your comment is practically irrelevant in the context of gaming.
Bother 1440P and 1600P are commonly refered to as 2K. If you go check retail stores you will see they market these monitors as 2K gaming monitors too.
As for the whole 1K thing, I agree. I have no clue why that was said, but it makes little sense to start claiming 1080P as 1K.
I would like to budge, but who is calling it that? Marketing speak? I guess. Stupid marketing, at that. They also say things like "Enhanced for 4K" for 1440p. That doesn't make it 4K, either. You can call something what it's not, but that doesn't make it so. Especially when it's actually better. That just makes it stupid. 1080p=2K. Well, the real thing was a little wider, but still 1080 tall. That term (which they borrowed) was established at least 15 years ago. Probably more. It's already a video display resolution. You can't change the definition now... Note that the definition has still not changed anywhere on the internet, other than maybe some marketing spiel to sell displays. In the near future, that marketing gimmick will probably soon be forgotten anyway, as we will have all moved on.
Anyway, on many devices, they call 1440p "QHD" or "Quad HD". This is actually correct, since it's 4 X 720p. Maybe that's just in the US, but this is the current term I see for projectors and phones. Actually, this term has also been around for years.
Edit: Again, can you link to somewhere that calls 1440p Quad HD the same as 2K? I honestly cannot seem to find it called that anywhere. I'm just going to say calling 1440p 2K is just people being confused at the definition (they think wrongly that half the resolution of 4K=2K, instead of horizontal resolution) and perhaps shoddy marketing, unless someone can prove me wrong.
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I get what you saying, but sticking to dictionary definitions from a different industry isn't helping here. It doesn't matter what the DCI definition of 2K is as far as gaming goes.. It has its own standard, which is 2560x1440/1600p.
You keep asking for a link but there is no official link from an official source or anything, it simply is what it is. You can accept it or reject it, but it will still be considered as 2K.
I'm sorry, but I can't accept it because it isn't true. That's also why there is no link. 2K means 2000. You can't change what means 2000 to mean something else. Now I just think you are the one who's confused. 1080p has ALWAYS been 2K.
If a TV says 2K that is native Quad HD, also notice that it also says 1080p, 720p, etc. That's because it it's supportive. 2K had NEVER been used for 1440p as an official term. That's why you can't find a link to it. It's still 1080p that is 2k, as it's always been. Like I said, over 15 years. You are believing something that isn't true.
Actual source that Crap Gamer linked to. A real life developer that has the dev kit:
http://gamingbolt.com/stardock-ceo-...b-ram-will-increase-pc-requirements-in-future
A couple of weeks ago, Brad Wardell, the CEO of Stardock Studios had some interesting comments to share about the Xbox Scorpio. According to Wardell, the 12GB of memory present in the Scorpio will not impose any technical limit for games development in the future and that it will take a couple of years for developers to full realize the potential of the new hardware.
We decided to followup with Wardell about these comments and asked him a couple of questions regarding the Scorpio. It’s well known by now that Scorpio has a ton of memory on board (12GB in total and 8GB of that is available for games). So does this mean that high-end PC game developers such as Stardock Studios, will now be setting their PC memory requirements even higher in the future due to Scorpio offering even higher memory allocations? Wardell confirmed to GamingBolt that they will be indeed doing so.
This is certainly interesting because current gen-games on PC target anywhere from 8-16 GB on a modern gaming PC, and much of that shift to higher memory has been driven by the PS4 and Xbox One. Given that both PS4 and Xbox One had 8GB of memory, it ensured that most game developers can set even higher requirements for their games on PC and with the Scorpio the trend is only going to continue.
The Scorpio has undergone minor but noticeable improvements on the CPU front but Microsoft’s push for DirectX12 for GPU seems to have done a lot of good for the console’s GPU. In light of this statement, we asked whether the somewhat mediocre improvement in CPU will hold back the Scorpio? Wardell stated that this won’t be the case since this is where DirectX12 will come into the picture. While confirming the CPU won’t hold back the Scorpio, Wardell stated that, “DX12 takes the burden off the CPU.”
and
http://gamingbolt.com/project-xbox-...al-limit-for-games-development-says-developer
http://gamingbolt.com/stardock-ceo-...b-ram-will-increase-pc-requirements-in-future
A couple of weeks ago, Brad Wardell, the CEO of Stardock Studios had some interesting comments to share about the Xbox Scorpio. According to Wardell, the 12GB of memory present in the Scorpio will not impose any technical limit for games development in the future and that it will take a couple of years for developers to full realize the potential of the new hardware.
We decided to followup with Wardell about these comments and asked him a couple of questions regarding the Scorpio. It’s well known by now that Scorpio has a ton of memory on board (12GB in total and 8GB of that is available for games). So does this mean that high-end PC game developers such as Stardock Studios, will now be setting their PC memory requirements even higher in the future due to Scorpio offering even higher memory allocations? Wardell confirmed to GamingBolt that they will be indeed doing so.
This is certainly interesting because current gen-games on PC target anywhere from 8-16 GB on a modern gaming PC, and much of that shift to higher memory has been driven by the PS4 and Xbox One. Given that both PS4 and Xbox One had 8GB of memory, it ensured that most game developers can set even higher requirements for their games on PC and with the Scorpio the trend is only going to continue.
The Scorpio has undergone minor but noticeable improvements on the CPU front but Microsoft’s push for DirectX12 for GPU seems to have done a lot of good for the console’s GPU. In light of this statement, we asked whether the somewhat mediocre improvement in CPU will hold back the Scorpio? Wardell stated that this won’t be the case since this is where DirectX12 will come into the picture. While confirming the CPU won’t hold back the Scorpio, Wardell stated that, “DX12 takes the burden off the CPU.”
and
http://gamingbolt.com/project-xbox-...al-limit-for-games-development-says-developer
Just to put this to rest:
I believe this was made before TV manufactures stole the term 4K (which was stupid mistake #1, since the term refers to horizontal resolution, which is obviously the only part that is different) Notice the ratios are the same distance from video to cinema in 4K as with 2K.
Now, who on earth would call QHD "2K"? That makes 0 sense. I cannot find a single example of chart or definition anywhere for 1440p being 2K. The only definition of 2K is basically 2,000 pixels wide. That is consistent EVERYWHERE.
If anyone has any real proof otherwise, please bring it. Otherwise, let's PLEASE move on!
I believe this was made before TV manufactures stole the term 4K (which was stupid mistake #1, since the term refers to horizontal resolution, which is obviously the only part that is different) Notice the ratios are the same distance from video to cinema in 4K as with 2K.
Now, who on earth would call QHD "2K"? That makes 0 sense. I cannot find a single example of chart or definition anywhere for 1440p being 2K. The only definition of 2K is basically 2,000 pixels wide. That is consistent EVERYWHERE.
If anyone has any real proof otherwise, please bring it. Otherwise, let's PLEASE move on!
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