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Plainview said:
I can't wait to get my 2160p TV.
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Yeah, it doesn't quite have the same ring to it. I get why they used the term 4K, and a decent amount of people actually did know that movies mastered at 4K is the high bar. It was always marketing.

Unfortunately, they have went and made things super confusing for a lot of folks, switching resolution to cinema terms. That's why this is even a discussion. I'm just trying to help clarify and simplify, because I actually "see way they did there".
 
GordoSan said:
Yeah, it doesn't quite have the same ring to it. I get why they used the term 4K, and a decent amount of people actually did know that movies mastered at 4K is the high bar. It was always marketing.

Unfortunately, they have went and made things super confusing for a lot of folks, switching resolution to cinema terms. That's why this is even a discussion. I'm just trying to help clarify and simplify, because I actually "see way they did there".
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Going forward, everything is going to be in K. RED is one of the biggest driving companies that ushered in using K across the board. It caught on and resolutions will now be discussed in terms of K. It actually makes it much simpler because formats and displays will all be talking the same language again like when we did way back when when cameras were 720p and 1080p.
 
Plainview said:
Going forward, everything is going to be in K. RED is one of the biggest driving companies that ushered in using K across the board. It caught on and resolutions will now be discussed in terms of K. It actually makes it much simpler because formats and displays will all be talking the same language again like when we did way back when when cameras were 720p and 1080p.
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That is true. Same language is definitely best. Couldn't agree more. I was just probably on the video side of that being the standard. :grin:

I guess they will just never agree on a standard aspect ratio, either. Also note that ATSC picked 16:9 mainly because the Japanese were already using that ratio, meaning it was cheaper to produce. I remember when HDTV aspect was actually on the table, and a lot of people wanted the motion picture standard of 1.85:1, where they ultimately choose 1.78:1 (which translates to 16:9 in video speak) Again, cost.
 
GordoSan said:
That is true. Same language is definitely best. Couldn't agree more. I was just probably on the video side of that being the standard. :grin:

I guess they will just never agree on a standard aspect ratio, either. Also note that ATSC picked 16:9 mainly because the Japanese were already using that ratio, meaning it was cheaper to produce. I remember when HDTV aspect was actually on the table, and a lot of people wanted the motion picture standard of 1.85:1, where they ultimately choose 1.78:1 (which translates to 16:9 in video speak) Again, cost.
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1.85:1 in house movies. *drool.gif*
 
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Plainview said:
1.85:1 in house movies. *drool.gif*
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I used to be on the side of 16:9 winning out the HDTV spec. Now I see how short-sighted that decision ultimately was. Not only would we not be having this discussion, but we still can't get native 4K movies without scaling them to fit UHD aspect ratio, which is pretty sad because it's so close to the master!
 
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GordoSan said:
I'm sorry, but I can't accept it because it isn't true. That's also why there is no link. 2K means 2000. You can't change what means 2000 to mean something else. Now I just think you are the one who's confused. 1080p has ALWAYS been 2K.

If a TV says 2K that is native Quad HD, also notice that it also says 1080p, 720p, etc. That's because it it's supportive. 2K had NEVER been used for 1440p as an official term. That's why you can't find a link to it. It's still 1080p that is 2k, as it's always been. Like I said, over 15 years. You are believing something that isn't true.
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I'm not cofused. If 2K is 1080p then wy isn't it called 2K.

I'm not beleiving what isn't true. I am beleiving a gaming industry standard. Same as the gaming industry 4K isn't actually 4K.
 
menace-uk- said:
I'm not cofused. If 2K is 1080p then wy isn't it called 2K.

I'm not beleiving what isn't true. I am beleiving a gaming industry standard. Same as the gaming industry 4K isn't actually 4K.
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Dammit man, I showed you the charts. 1080p is to DCI 2K what UHD is to DCI 4K. It's nearly 2,000 pixels wide. THAT IS WHAT THE NUMBER MEANS!

So, the gaming industry was to stupid to do any research, and called QHD (that name has been around for ages) 2K (which has meant something else for ages) Riiiiight. Where is your proof that the gaming industry made up their own version of what 2K means? Oh, you didn't bring it to the table... again.

Just man-up and admit you were wrong, man! Fvck!
 
menace-uk- said:
I'm not cofused. If 2K is 1080p then wy isn't it called 2K.

I'm not beleiving what isn't true. I am beleiving a gaming industry standard. Same as the gaming industry 4K isn't actually 4K.
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And to answer your question, 2K is called 1080p in video because video has a legacy of naming after vertical resolution. 2K refers to horizontal. The display manufactures only jumped on the term ay 4K. That doesn't mean you can retroactively change what 2K means. I've already explained this too many times.
 
GordoSan said:
Dammit man, I showed you the charts. 1080p is to DCI 2K what UHD is to DCI 4K. It's nearly 2,000 pixels wide. THAT IS WHAT THE NUMBER MEANS!

So, the gaming industry was to stupid to do any research, and called QHD (that name has been around for ages) 2K (which has meant something else for ages) Riiiiight. Where is your proof that the gaming industry made up their own version of what 2K means? Oh, you didn't bring it to the table... again.

Just man-up and admit you were wrong, man! Fvck!
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Wrong about what? Obviously you missed the fact that i never once disagreed with what you said, I mearly pointed out the PC realm have their own definition.

Remember we are talking about two different and indepedant industries, and a standard set by one does not have to be the standard for the other.
 
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Wrong about what? Obviously you missed the fact that i never once disagreed with what you said, I mearly pointed out the PC realm have their own definition.

Remember we are talking about two different and indepedant industries, and a standard set by one does not have to be the standard for the other.
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No they don't!
 
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No they don't!
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Lol ok. I guess all those 2K monitors and 2K mentions in reviews, benchmarks, gaming forums are just figments of the worlds mind, well, except for you.

FYI 1920 isn't 2000 and there for can't be 2K going by what you said previously. So can't be the same.
 
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Lol ok. I guess all those 2K monitors and 2K mentions in reviews, benchmarks, gaming forums are just figments of the worlds mind, well, except for you.

FYI 1920 isn't 2000 and there for can't be 2K going by what you said previously. So can't be the same.
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Again, not a single piece of evidence to show that the PC world had their own version of what 2K is. I was willing too believe what you are saying at first, then I looked around and the only quotes about 2K and gaming are people asking "what is 2K gaming?" The answer is that a 2K device is 2,000 pixels wide, just like the phrase "2K" actually means.
 
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Again, not a single piece of evidence to show that the PC world had their own version of what 2K is. I was willing too believe what you are saying at first, then I looked around and the only quotes about 2K and gaming are people asking "what is 2K gaming?" The answer is tv's a 2K device is 2,000 pixels wide, just like the phrase "2K" actually means.
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This. Is. 2K. Gaming. You're welcome.

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griff_dai said:
Rollins get us back on track dude.......we need rumours
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I dig, I dig.....but lately it's all been quiet.

I'm in withdrawal!

The only interesting thing I've heard is that we might see OG XBox BC at E3, but file that in 'highly doubtful' for now.

C'mon Phil, Crimson Skies! That is all.
 
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