You done insulting members yet?He knows you weren't talking about him. He was pointing out how stupid you sound for trying to call me out when i just bashed the ps4.
You done insulting members yet?He knows you weren't talking about him. He was pointing out how stupid you sound for trying to call me out when i just bashed the ps4.
You done insulting members yet?
NWhy do you think Ps2 came out and creamed dreamcast? part of it was because sony made the ps2 sound like the most powerful piece of hardware ever built. It sure wasn't just the games lol.
Don't be salty though, I wasn't even going to call you out for your dumb comment. Idlehands must just be tired of the stupid xb1 fanboy nonsense that flies around because we aren't omg pro xb1.
Really? I'm pretty sure you can find the Dreamcast failed do to lack of support from EA then piracy was the final nail in the coffin. The devs jumped ship from Dreamcast. Sony @ that time was the sure bet for games as xbox was late to the party and unknown. This is where the software went and it dictated the success of that gen. The relative ease of developing on 360 last gen vs PS3 helped xbox gain marketshare last gen even though the power hype for cell was just as big for PS2's emotion engine so there is the hole in your point of powah vs games people want to play.Nope. Obviously software matters. Graphics matter too though. Ps2 was the most powerful console on the market for more than a year and a half before it got any competition. Why do you think Ps2 came out and creamed dreamcast? part of it was because sony made the ps2 sound like the most powerful piece of hardware ever built. It sure wasn't just the games lol.
Some games have a performance gap that large, not all. The X1 can run games at 1080p. It is not the gimped machine people claim.
That's funny considering you've been insulting me this whole time. I guess it's okay though if you are only doing it in such a subtle manner?
Don't be salty though, I wasn't even going to call you out for your dumb comment. Idlehands must just be tired of the stupid xb1 fanboy nonsense that flies around because we aren't omg pro xb1.
You're the one who made the stupid comment not me. I love how you glossed over it though.
Nope. Obviously software matters. Graphics matter too though. Ps2 was the most powerful console on the market for more than a year and a half before it got any competition. Why do you think Ps2 came out and creamed dreamcast? part of it was because sony made the ps2 sound like the most powerful piece of hardware ever built. It sure wasn't just the games lol.
No, seriously...we want to know if you were done insulting members and trolling this entire forum. I called you out on it. I am surprised you haven't been banned here yet. I mean, seriously, Plainview never saw this from you?:
Stop trashing Union, stop insulting members, stop trolling. You are ruining it for everyone, PERIOD.
Really? I'm pretty sure you can find the Dreamcast failed do to lack of support from EA then piracy was the final nail in the coffin. The devs jumped ship from Dreamcast. Sony @ that time was the sure bet for games as xbox was late to the party and unknown..
Sega tried to launch the console as part of a comeback after its previous efforts with the Sega Saturn failed. With a strong marketing campaign and reformed studios to develop new creative content, the Dreamcast was initially well received with a very successful launch and strong sales. However when Sony announced the PlayStation 2, sales of the Dreamcast quickly plummeted, due in no small part to the console's inability to support movies on the new DVD format. Sega later came to the realization that it did not have the financial resources to compete
From Wiki:
Essentially, it was a perfect storm led by the PS2's ability to play movies. Which made it a entertainment device. hmmm and now that is a bad thing to be an entertainment device LOL
Anyway, Sega ran out of money, devs jumped ship, blah blah blah... bad timing for DC.
Kinect hasn't proved essential the way DVD/BR has.
The only thing Kinect will prove to be essential for is those that can use it to assist (some that may have a disability) them in the ability to help control their gaming and media experience and give them opportunities.Not sure if it ever will.
Not sure if it ever will.
So all you are really trying to say is that graphics power of the hardware in comparison to the competition does not have any real effect and that it's really only a matter of whether or not it was the first console of the new generation to be released.I think graphics do have an impact. How significant is up for debate. Saying i'm wrong is a bit much, at the end of the day it's only your opinion. Almost every console that has beaten the competition has been the most powerful at the time of it's release.
Really? I'm pretty sure you can find the Dreamcast failed do to lack of support from EA then piracy was the final nail in the coffin. The devs jumped ship from Dreamcast. Sony @ that time was the sure bet for games as xbox was late to the party and unknown. This is where the software went and it dictated the success of that gen. The relative ease of developing on 360 last gen vs PS3 helped xbox gain marketshare last gen even though the power hype for cell was just as big for PS2's emotion engine so there is the hole in your point of powah vs games people want to play.
Val is correct price point is a bigger determining factor over power. If your console has 2 of the 3 determining factors you're setup for success in my opinion though. PS4 has the power and price point the games side so far may be in xb1's favour for the moment exclusive wise but that is subjective.
No, seriously...we want to know if you were done insulting members and trolling this entire forum. I called you out on it. I am surprised you haven't been banned here yet. I mean, seriously, Plainview never saw this from you?:
YES i ENJOY THE FANBOY BANTER! IT'S MORE ENTERTAINING!
Funny thing is kvally is a bigger fanboy than most of the people he comments on.
It's like arguing with just another xb1 fanboy all over again.
I'm not super duper fanboy mode for it like a lot of people here. a few things really put me off but...
If you arent pro box you are a fanboy. Gawd typing on a tablet is a Pain
Hey crybaby fanboy
If you want to circle jerk with a bunch of xbox fanboys
MUST BE A FANBOY BECAUSE THEY DISCUSS THE SHORTCOMINGS OF
All the fanboys are butthurt.
Take the fanboy glasses off please. It was downgraded! deal with it.
You sound like a silly fanboy right now.
You are either a giant fanboy or a joke account. Take your pick!
I think only a fanboy would try to say Killzone doesn't look next gen. I mean if you want to go...
doesn't make me a fanboy of Sony lol. It's not my fault Sony's machine is able to out perform...
Only a fanboy would say something like that and it's true for multiple reasons. Ki looks...
astro keep sprouting fanboy trash about the xb1 being so powerful
While I was never a fanboy of your caliber I was heavily on MS side even before the 180. I'm sure you can still find my posts cached on google from...
I shouldn't be labeled a fanboy lol.
At least you can admit he is a fanboy. Maybe some people would like to read this nice xbox thread without seeing xbox
guess I'm a fanboy then because 720 is garbage
acting like fanboys...
Out of curiosity, what exactly makes me a fanboy?
...waiting on that magical day when the mods get serious and ban your fanboy ass. Obviously the biggest fanboy on this site.
just because I don't bash on the ps4 doesn't make me a fanboy. Why do I need to bash it when majority of you do it enough as it is? This...
Because he is a fanboy.
Which is funny because it's xbox fanboys who keep bringing up the ps4. As soon as someone who isn't a fanboy says anything
Let me know when the biggest xb1 fanboy on this site actually gets an xb1.
How about you stop being such a fanboy and talking out of your ass?
With you being hands down the biggest MS fanboy on this site who rants and says the most BS. If these mods were worth a damn...
Amg an xbox fanboy is calling my post dumb.
run around posting all the stupid Microsoft fanboy bs they want, untouched.
that was just you being an unreasonable fanboy who can't tolerate anything even remotely negative said about your favorite...
I be dat major sony fanboy though
You do come off like a majorly bias fanboy though and it does get annoying. At least you get paid for it though so I...
Half the stuff you type is uncalled for fanboy drivel. You are Flynn #2. At least he gets paid.
Stop being a damn fanboy
OMG I DON'T THINK XBOX IS THE STRONGEST EVAR!! SONY FANBOY! !!!!
...@ launch is Killzone. I really wish you could see how much of a fanboy you come off as. Every single post you make just drips with fanboy bs.
Ok fanboy. lol it baffles me that people can read your posts and not see a fanboy in it's natural habitat
Yea I definitely don't agree with this. Unless it's possible to be a fanboy to both platforms. =)
didn't even finish reading this fanboy dribble. It's clear you have no sense what so ever and you will forever be a fanboy. I thought maybe you...
a total sony fanboy for example. Now I actually respect him think I was stupid for ever thinking...
This is exactly why you are a fanboy.
It makes me not a fanboy.
He was a horrible sony fanboy. In fact he was the best fanboy I've ever seen, he deserves a medal.
...banned for over 2 years because I was considered a combative xbox fanboy lol.
...your birthday being in march. I love how you dare to imply i'm a fanboy though.
Just goes to show how much of a MS fanboy you are. I bet I'll be enjoying my xb1 before you even hook yours up. I'm such a sony fanboy though..
Stop being a fanboy.
...mean they are right or spreading fud. Actually they've been right about a lot of things but you being a fanboy
Get off my tip, fanboy.
Just like there are silly Microsoft fanboys errrrrrwhere
...Forza or GT lol. I think racing games are boring. I'm tired of xbox fanboys labeling me a sony fanboy though
...it a rest? Even when I was purely xb1 I still thought you were a fanboy of epic proportions.
Guess it's fanboy talk lol?
I still thought you were a fanboy of epic proportions. There is not a neutral bone in your body. The fact that...
'll still be laughing at all the stupid fanboy stuff you post when I say "xbox snap IE".
No, fanboy.
Just because you are a fanboy doesn't mean we all have to be.
...I did not attack you. I damn sure don't agree with what every fanboy in this thread is saying though
guess I'm a fanboy then because 720 is garbage.
Stop trashing Union, stop insulting members, stop trolling. You are ruining it for everyone, PERIOD.
So all you are really trying to say is that graphics power of the hardware in comparison to the competition does not have any real effect and that it's really only a matter of whether or not it was the first console of the new generation to be released.
No, seriously...we want to know if you were done insulting members and trolling this entire forum. I called you out on it. I am surprised you haven't been banned here yet. I mean, seriously, Plainview never saw this from you?:
UPDATED:
Doesn't change the fact that you are a fanboy. I'll keep saying it to. If I get banned for calling a fanboy a fanboy then so be it. You are what you are. All you do is defend Microsoft non stop like you work the for the company. Even in this thread you try to call me out for being a sony fanboy when in the same post I treated sony just as harshly. You are no better than me, in fact you are worse considering you do nothing but defend a company that doesn't care about you at all.
YES i ENJOY THE FANBOY BANTER! IT'S MORE ENTERTAINING!
Funny thing is kvally is a bigger fanboy than most of the people he comments on.
It's like arguing with just another xb1 fanboy all over again.
I'm not super duper fanboy mode for it like a lot of people here. a few things really put me off but...
If you arent pro box you are a fanboy. Gawd typing on a tablet is a Pain
Hey crybaby fanboy
If you want to circle jerk with a bunch of xbox fanboys
MUST BE A FANBOY BECAUSE THEY DISCUSS THE SHORTCOMINGS OF
All the fanboys are butthurt.
Take the fanboy glasses off please. It was downgraded! deal with it.
You sound like a silly fanboy right now.
You are either a giant fanboy or a joke account. Take your pick!
I think only a fanboy would try to say Killzone doesn't look next gen. I mean if you want to go...
doesn't make me a fanboy of Sony lol. It's not my fault Sony's machine is able to out perform...
Only a fanboy would say something like that and it's true for multiple reasons. Ki looks...
astro keep sprouting fanboy trash about the xb1 being so powerful
While I was never a fanboy of your caliber I was heavily on MS side even before the 180. I'm sure you can still find my posts cached on google from...
I shouldn't be labeled a fanboy lol.
At least you can admit he is a fanboy. Maybe some people would like to read this nice xbox thread without seeing xbox
guess I'm a fanboy then because 720 is garbage
acting like fanboys...
Out of curiosity, what exactly makes me a fanboy?
...waiting on that magical day when the mods get serious and ban your fanboy ass. Obviously the biggest fanboy on this site.
just because I don't bash on the ps4 doesn't make me a fanboy. Why do I need to bash it when majority of you do it enough as it is? This...
Because he is a fanboy.
Which is funny because it's xbox fanboys who keep bringing up the ps4. As soon as someone who isn't a fanboy says anything
Let me know when the biggest xb1 fanboy on this site actually gets an xb1.
How about you stop being such a fanboy and talking out of your ass?
With you being hands down the biggest MS fanboy on this site who rants and says the most BS. If these mods were worth a damn...
Amg an xbox fanboy is calling my post dumb.
run around posting all the stupid Microsoft fanboy bs they want, untouched.
that was just you being an unreasonable fanboy who can't tolerate anything even remotely negative said about your favorite...
I be dat major sony fanboy though
You do come off like a majorly bias fanboy though and it does get annoying. At least you get paid for it though so I...
Half the stuff you type is uncalled for fanboy drivel. You are Flynn #2. At least he gets paid.
Stop being a damn fanboy
OMG I DON'T THINK XBOX IS THE STRONGEST EVAR!! SONY FANBOY! !!!!
...@ launch is Killzone. I really wish you could see how much of a fanboy you come off as. Every single post you make just drips with fanboy bs.
Ok fanboy. lol it baffles me that people can read your posts and not see a fanboy in it's natural habitat
Yea I definitely don't agree with this. Unless it's possible to be a fanboy to both platforms. =)
didn't even finish reading this fanboy dribble. It's clear you have no sense what so ever and you will forever be a fanboy. I thought maybe you...
a total sony fanboy for example. Now I actually respect him think I was stupid for ever thinking...
This is exactly why you are a fanboy.
It makes me not a fanboy.
He was a horrible sony fanboy. In fact he was the best fanboy I've ever seen, he deserves a medal.
...banned for over 2 years because I was considered a combative xbox fanboy lol.
...your birthday being in march. I love how you dare to imply i'm a fanboy though.
Just goes to show how much of a MS fanboy you are. I bet I'll be enjoying my xb1 before you even hook yours up. I'm such a sony fanboy though..
Stop being a fanboy.
...mean they are right or spreading fud. Actually they've been right about a lot of things but you being a fanboy
Get off my tip, fanboy.
Just like there are silly Microsoft fanboys errrrrrwhere
...Forza or GT lol. I think racing games are boring. I'm tired of xbox fanboys labeling me a sony fanboy though
...it a rest? Even when I was purely xb1 I still thought you were a fanboy of epic proportions.
Guess it's fanboy talk lol?
I still thought you were a fanboy of epic proportions. There is not a neutral bone in your body. The fact that...
'll still be laughing at all the stupid fanboy stuff you post when I say "xbox snap IE".
No, fanboy.
Just because you are a fanboy doesn't mean we all have to be.
...I did not attack you. I damn sure don't agree with what every fanboy in this thread is saying though
guess I'm a fanboy then because 720 is garbage.
Stop trashing Union, stop insulting members, stop trolling. You are ruining it for everyone, PERIOD.
So all you are arguing is that the first console of a generation to release wins, regardless of having much weaker chips than the competition and despite the console remaining weakest for five out of six years of the generation.It's really not that hard man. If the system comes out first then obviously it's the most powerful at the time of release. It doesn't get beat in power until a year + later when a new system comes out. I really don't see what is so hard to understand.
I repeat! if said console is first to release in a generation than it is obviously the most powerful console to be out in said generation! until the competition releases!
So all you are arguing is that the first console of a generation to release wins, regardless of having much weaker chips than the competition and despite the console remaining weakest for five out of six years of the generation.
So the Dreamcast was the most powerful of its time in 1998.Dreamcast was first, did it win?
You are tiring me, I give up. -_-
The games weren't good for a year with the exception of Tekken Tag which looked better then Soul Calibur.At the time of the PS2's release, it wasn't clear cut that it was head and shoulders over the DC. On paper yes. But the games didn't show it for awhile.