Maybe, but I doubt it...only because mp games rarely get that kind of nod.
With that said, I don't see any game coming out this year that looks fantastic to me, so it's possible.
Bonus Round: Time up for Xbox one?
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Maybe, but I doubt it...only because mp games rarely get that kind of nod.
With that said, I don't see any game coming out this year that looks fantastic to me, so it's possible.
I played it a few times during the beta but didn't like it. Now that it's on Steam I played a couple hours this weekend and enjoyed it quite a bit. Definitely not perfect (I'd like to see MP ranked because going up against someone 10 levels higher can suck) but seems like one of the better F2P games.
I simply took your comment and applied it to what many on forums seem to suggest to close that gap. Which is a Kinectless Sku. Obviously you want to close that gap if you can, but like I said, it depends on what they maybe sacrificing interms of the general forum dwellers idea of kinectless sku. Sure, they could simply drop the price, but then they lose profit, perhaps a viable option this early in the game.
It is pretty obvious though that neither MS or Sony want the old business style of losses and trying to gain profit through software and services. That old way is done, it will not come back, it seems to be taking some longer to recognize this than others though.
Fair enough, I really should have watched the video before commenting anyway. I'll check it out, but my comments were mainly aimed at the general attitude shared by many that MS has somehow already lost it all. Definitely not the case.
I don't care who sells what where. The X1 is selling just fine and is not going anywhere.
Then why a pack in and why a price cut in the UK less than 6 months after release if everything is fine as you claim?
I think it's too early to tell, but there are some pretty big concerns for MS.
Honest opinion? I think they really screwed up.
A $500 game console that performs worse than it's $400 competitor and is being hated on by a large swath of the "gaming community."
A $500 set top box that has some unique features but is 3-5 times as expensive as some of it's competitors, has a base unit that is many times larger, and if you want many of the extra features you need to install a large camera-looking-thing (and have a cable box.)
And it's quite possible that within the next year we'll have Apple REALLY gearing up their set top box game. Google might re-get interested in Google TV or continue to expand upon their success with Chromecast.
So it becomes this "who is going to buy this thing?" quandry. And I don't mean that literally 100% but in general.. millions have them already (and I have 2) but in the long run?
At that price or even post price drop?
It's like they targeted a consumer base that they were only successful with once their device hit the $250 ballpark.. with a $500 console.. lol.
Honest opinion? I think they really screwed up.
A $500 game console that performs worse than it's $400 competitor and is being hated on by a large swath of the "gaming community."
A $500 set top box that has some unique features but is 3-5 times as expensive as some of it's competitors, has a base unit that is many times larger, and if you want many of the extra features you need to install a large camera-looking-thing (and have a cable box.)
And it's quite possible that within the next year we'll have Apple REALLY gearing up their set top box game. Google might re-get interested in Google TV or continue to expand upon their success with Chromecast.
So it becomes this "who is going to buy this thing?" quandry. And I don't mean that literally 100% but in general.. millions have them already (and I have 2) but in the long run?
At that price or even post price drop?
It's like they targeted a consumer base that they were only successful with once their device hit the $250 ballpark.. with a $500 console.. lol.
Already said it, but the X1 is not selling where MS wants it to be. So no, for MS (where it counts the most) it's not selling to their expectations. This could spell doom for the system, but doesn't mean it will.
So what do you think their expectations are? Because I'm fairly sure you don't know, nor do I.
By when? End of year? Because they're on track for it. I think people confuse expectations of a company with expectations of success for themselves.
They have already said it and we do know... and that was because they didn't want to lose out on the "tv, entertainment" side. They didn't want sony to have a chance or change in business as they saw the rise of PS1. Now, I am obviously not sure if they had plans to enter this market because of Sony or not but that obviously gave them a boost to release xbox earlier than should have been I believe.
It has been well documented that MS has stated over and over they didn't just want you or us playing games, but they wanted every home to have a xbox in it, as common as having a tv. And, if you don't remember there was also a article where one of the execs said "we don't want it to just be you playing, we want to get your mother on xbox and then evetnually your grandparents too)
Now, these things have all happened and or said by someone at MS in some way or form. Especially the last line, so what do you think? Are they meeting the expectations? Or, you are just going to say what you want to defend your own idea?
It has been well documented that MS has stated over and over they didn't just want you or us playing games, but they wanted every home to have a xbox in it, as common as having a tv. And, if you don't remember there was also a article where one of the execs said "we don't want it to just be you playing, we want to get your mother on xbox and then evetnually your grandparents too)
Now, these things have all happened and or said by someone at MS in some way or form. Especially the last line, so what do you think? Are they meeting the expectations? Or, you are just going to say what you want to defend your own idea?
I think that is what you are doing, or you aren't taking everything that has happened in the history of xbox into account.
Kinect and tv was never truly targeted to gamers, and having games on xbox is still or was just a part of their plan, it was never ment to be the game box. They had a long term plan, and that started showing it self well during the 360's life cycle.
Unless, you really think they were going to use games to entice our grandmas?
yes by the end of the year. if they are only moving 250k-300k consoles a month, they are not on track to that.
Ah, so you're not just talking gaming aspect.
Jackie, I'd say when and if Apple and Google jump - you will see Microsoft jump. Even if it means taking a loss on every single One sold. For the gaming aspect, the players they're concerned with are there and will always be there. Their bigger rivals are still on the sidelines waiting. If Apple and Google released information for their STB's next month, I'd bet my life saving you'd see a 100-150 USD price drop on the One by the time those units released.
So in a nutshell, I'd say it's far to early to claim they aren't meeting expectations for themselves or their plan. Because their plan is bigger than just videogames.
Jackie, I'd say when and if Apple and Google jump - you will see Microsoft jump. Even if it means taking a loss on every single One sold. For the gaming aspect, the players they're concerned with are there and will always be there. Their bigger rivals are still on the sidelines waiting. If Apple and Google released information for their STB's next month, I'd bet my life saving you'd see a 100-150 USD price drop on the One by the time those units released.
So in a nutshell, I'd say it's far to early to claim they aren't meeting expectations for themselves or their plan. Because their plan is bigger than just videogames.
Investors don't want to do that. We will just have to wait and see what happens in sales to see what happens. There is a possibility they drop the business or sell it. With Nintendo's problems, I'd have to wonder why anyone else would change the market right now though.
The xbox division does seem like they are willing to take a loss, but they already did this in the past quite a bit in many different ways. I don't know if they wil continue to do that to try and gain share back. I agree, we wil have to wait overall.
The xbox division does seem like they are willing to take a loss, but they already did this in the past quite a bit in many different ways. I don't know if they wil continue to do that to try and gain share back. I agree, we wil have to wait overall.
No, you have the investors that are consistently b!tching. You have the investors that have wanted Microsoft to stop any hardware R&D and manufacturing for a decade. Then you have the others, that have been there for awhile and love the way the company has gone - even with a few speed bumps.
Probably because the price over there is insanely high? X1 is still way more expensive in Europe than it is here. The price gap over there is huge, while here the $100 isn't a huge deal.
That would depend, if they are going to the board meetings and talking about how they will grow but they perhaps won't? Will enough people keep the xbox business afloat. Of course I don't know, but I think maybe we both can agree if they don't out perform the 360 in overall revenue and profits that they could drop it? what do you think? No sense in arguing, I think it isn't up to where they want, if you think so. That is fine. Do you feel they are happy with the sales currently?
To be fair, the huge cost has nothing to do with MS. There pricing is actually very close to the US one, it is the high added tax from the government. I mean 20% hike right off the bat
