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Current rumors about the next Windows - which I'm not calling Windows 9, because I somehow doubt that it will not be called so - state that, at least in desktop mode, it will bring start menu as default, and drop charms bar at the right side of the screen. I thought of the former as the continuation of start screen in Windows 8, but the latter was pretty hard to swallow, like, what does that even mean? After some thought, I realized it meant going back to Windows 7 altogether. I really didn't like it. There are things that charms bar and app list in the left side of the screen can do, which should be pushed further in Windows 9, and it's being dropped out completely in the next Windows in favor of older, worse interface. I understand it's necessary to bring back the Windows 8 naysayers / start menu paranoids, but seeing how Microsoft cannot force a change anymore to its users like they did with Vista/7 saddens me. I'm still wondering what about Windows 8 will still remain in the next windows, though.
 
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Been using windows 8.1 and never had a problem with it, just needed to get use to it but i do like it now though. I hope there will be a free upgrade for windows 8.1 users when windows 9 comes out
 
deathcry said:
Been using windows 8.1 and never had a problem with it, just needed to get use to it but i do like it now though. I hope there will be a free upgrade for windows 8.1 users when windows 9 comes out
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8.1 is ok as a desktop OS, but IMO the OS as a whole works far better with touch screen devices like tablets or even touch-screen desktop monitors. I think Windows 8 would have worked better for the masses if they lost the metro part of it, added this new start button from W9 and then just had the other improvements W8 bought.
 
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8.1 is ok as a desktop OS, but IMO the OS as a whole works far better with touch screen devices like tablets or even touch-screen desktop monitors. I think Windows 8 would have worked better for the masses if they lost the metro part of it, added this new start button from W9 and then just had the other improvements W8 bought.
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They should have just from the start allowed you to boot to the desktop like they added with 8.1 and then wouldnt have to see the metro screen. I agree they should add the start button like the pictures they have been showing, if they did all that i think most people wouldnt have a problem with windows 8 or 8.1. I actually like 8.1 better than windows 7 now. Windows 8 even when it first came out i think was still better than vista or ME.
 
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Lumia 520 just $39.99 on Amazon today only. Contract free.
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I bought this, and it's been impressive. Being on a preview program there are a few hiccups, but the overall UX greatly impressed me. Side-by-side with my iPhone 5 it shows rough corners, but then again I'm comparing a premium flagship with a cheap ass $40 payphone, and with that said it holds up extremely well. Just about any Android phone would have easily paled in comparison.
 
After looking the the Win 9 screen, I think MS seems clueless about making good UI, or at least improving its UI. Amazing, considered how long they have been doing so.

The Live tiles seems totally meaningless when you have to click the windows key.

Would make it toggle the main desktop make more sense, or they can make live tile like conventional icons, but with the possibility of being 'Live' & size adjustable.
 
I can tell you if that screen is anything that what win 9 will look like then a lot of people will be happy. I work at Geek Squad and I can tell you that hate the metro UI.
 
Nervusbreakdown said:
I can tell you if that screen is anything that what win 9 will look like then a lot of people will be happy. I work at Geek Squad and I can tell you that hate the metro UI.
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oh god poor you. I worked there for a bit tiring to sell set-up plans was such BS. yeah your Laptop is not ready out of the box pay us whatever to do windows updates and input your codes for word and such and your anti-versus. I offered it but I'd be damned if I was going to tell anyone the laptop or pc is not ready out of the box. The hardest part to set-up where the restore disc as you had to change the disc on the PC where you have all the restore images stored.

always shocked me how many people paid for the s***.
 
Should kept the Nokia name. The Microsoft name is not a selling factor.
 
I'm up for a new phone on 11/16/14. I currently have the Lumia 822. Looking forward to upgrading, I've had a cracked screen for almost a year and the operating system has been pretty funky since the update. Apps won't open, swipe text takes for ever to come up. I wonder if its because I downloaded the preview. Thought about wiping the memory and starting from scratch but I knew my upgrade was coming so I just dealt with it for the last month.

My options are
Lumia 928 for .99 cents w/2year contract
Samsung ATIV SE for free w/2year contract
Windows 8X for $49.99 w/2year contract
HTC One (M:cool: for $199.99 w/2year contract

Leaning towards the One (M:cool:. Wish there were more good choices. Was considering the Lumia Icon as well but it looks like they retired it. Might check to see if they have it in the store near where I work. (EDIT: Nevermind that...I read that the Windows 8.1 update hasn't been released by Verizon for the Icon. The fact that its been shelved doesn't give me much hope for the phone.)

I also heard that they may have bagged the rumored McLaren Lumia flagship phone that was supposed to be coming. Being a Verizon customer and a Windows phone fan isn't an easy thing...two years ago I waited and waited hoping the 9 series phones would come and I eventually caved and got the 8 series phone almost 4 months after my contract was up because I didn't want to wait anymore.
 
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I am not sure if its too early to upgrade, I just got my phone in 2009.
 
I never had a Win phone before been looking at the Nokia Lumia 635 at ATT anybody had that phone or a similar one?
pros, cons etc, my only issue is lack of flash for camera but to be honest I never take any night pics I have a dedicated camera for photos.
 
Got my Lumia 635 turned on and ported my number from Straight Talk over to it. I do LOVE the phone my only issues are with apps or ones that you can get on Android but NOT on Windows.
Youtube (funny how it is on iPhone and other Apple devices, but not Windows)
Yahoo Messenger (I have had it on all my androids and 2 different Galaxy tablets, but not available for Windows)
Dolphin (a browser perfect for mobile devices, I have it installed on my 10.1 Tab 4 and my previous ZTE Majesty phone)
No front camera (no selfies, but I never used the front camera on any other phones that had it)
No flash on the back camera (I have a 16 mp Cannon camera so this is not an issue)

Gotta say I LOVE Cortana, way better than Siri or what Android has (she is like a blend of Siri and Android but with more humor and emotion).
 
Blame google for the s***ty WP versions of their apps. They really screwed owners over and much better 3rd party Youtube apps are available.

Sure I read that MS are looking to get Android or something to do with it on WP which will apparently mean lots more apps. But I'm probably mixing it up with something else.
 
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well to be honest watching YT directly from YT.com they play good enough for me at the moment. I am trying different apps that do what Yahoo does. I dunno why it was available on the win 7 and 8 phones but not on 8.1?
 
A lot of apps have been taken off held back due to W10 coming. Think the phone beta starts this month.
 
I'm going to sit back and wait for the fully tested Windows 10 version to be released. I did the preview for the 8 update and then when they released the full version it really messed up my old phone. Sounds like I might be in line for the earliest release of Windows 10 since I have the HTC One M8.
 
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