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Are You Buying...

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Both systems are selling like hot cakes and already have huge install bases. So neither system is going any where so who gives a s*** who is leading.

No, Xbox One is not selling like hot cakes anymore. 141K the third month following launch is historically very low for any console (in fact a record low for Microsoft).
 
This is the saddest thing I've read.
What that I don't have to deal with foul mouthed little jerks. That my life isn't depend on if the console that i bought is the number 1 seller. That I am actually looking forward to getting online now because pre teens aren't on every match. Cussing and yelling over my AWESOME Kinect.
That this reminds me of the OX when alot if people were hating on a console they never touched.
Or is it the fact that I'm loving my x1,features, Kinect, games, and the interface of those features on my phone.


PLEASE OH PLEASE enlighten me! What's sad?
 
The foul mouthed jerks will be back, they were the for Xbox and 360 they'll be there for X1 at some point, enjoy your time while you can.
 
No, Xbox One is not selling like hot cakes anymore. 141K the third month following launch is historically very low for any console (in fact a record low for Microsoft).

They've sold a much larger total amount when compared to their past console releases, then again this is the first launch they've had where they were able to have supply meet demand, the 360 just couldn't do that. The drop off is likely more than they would have expected though considering there were no supply issues from late December on that I'm aware of.
 
Hopefully not. Let Sony have them ALL IF THEM. God I wish they had an age limit rep system!

I play on PS4 and haven't had any issues yet with jerks either but I know the day will come lol. I tend to just mute people anyway, hearing homophobic and racial slurs thrown around by teenagers gets old pretty quick.
 
I've read plenty of criticism of Kinect 2.0, from people who've tried it, it's still not accurate enough on picking up motions or sounds. One guy was eating and the sound of him crunching took the thing to the settings menu lol.

Works fine for me and many others. Ones with criticism will be more vocal though obviously.

Also, that's pretty strange considering I eat in front of my Xbox One often (watching TV).

::shoulder shrug::
 
I think talking to my xbox is okay for UI stuff but it's really not a big deal and definitely not worth 100$ in my opinion.
 
I think talking to my xbox is okay for UI stuff but it's really not a big deal and definitely not worth 100$ in my opinion.

All of my games are digital, so turning on my whole A/V setup + Xbox One via saying "Xbox On" and being able to go to any app, TV channel, or game simply by saying its name is really cool to me and it's honestly hard going to systems like the Wii U or older disc based systems since the amount of time it takes to start up a game is so large in comparison.

The suspend and resume feature on the Xbox One is great for this too. Can get back into my single player game instantly when I walk into the room after being away for many hours.

The kinect voice features are being advertised for TV/Video media and they are good for that but I'm loving them simply due to how the features make playing modern video games just as fast/instant as playing video games on an old system that uses cartridges. The kinect features definitely have gaming benefits.
 
Again, I live in DC Metro area which is Maryland, DC and Virginia. I can go out and buy tons of PS4 if I was inclined to do so. It would not be an issue. My friend is a manager of one of 3 Gamestops within a 5 mile area, and like the others they have PS4's just sitting in their stores with no more movement than X1. Fact of me being able to go anywhere and buy a PS4 overrides online tools. Simple as that.

Was just perusing nowinstock looking to pick up a PS4 for my buddy and randomly came across this comment. Thought it was kind of funny. Maybe you could help this guy find the tons of PS4s just sitting on store shelves all over the place in DC/VA.

http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/ps4/

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I'm sure MS will correct the course sooner rather than later. It only goes to show that gamers aren't nearly as loyal to one company as people think.

I don't know man MS as a company seems to be on a fail train as of late. People hate windows 8 windows phone is sucking ans surface is not doing well.
 
We all knew this was going to happen....selling a well known weaker system for 100$ more ? MS has had bad leadership for the last couple of years, somehow they thought they could sell mediocore crap under the Xbox brand name to people and they would just buy it. They will lower the price before E3 and with declining sales will probably sell off or just stop selling the Xbox brand.
 
We all knew this was going to happen....selling a well known weaker system for 100$ more ? MS has had bad leadership for the last couple of years, somehow they thought they could sell mediocore crap under the Xbox brand name to people and they would just buy it. They will lower the price before E3 and with declining sales will probably sell off or just stop selling the Xbox brand.

I agree with you up until the end. No way they are selling off the brand. By your logic Sony should have never released the PS4. If anything, I hope the ensuing ass beating that is coming will serve as a wake up call. Sony seems to have learned their lesson the hard way, now it's time for MS to learn it. If you're going to build a gaming machine then build it towards gamers and developers. Not focus groups and managerial staff.
 
I think talking to my xbox is okay for UI stuff but it's really not a big deal and definitely not worth 100$ in my opinion.
No way has it proven itself to be worth $100 more :-/ thus far... I don't even have it hooked up I see no reason.
Anywayz back OT I don't see why this thread is still going?
 
If the xb1 was selling more, the thread maker would've been intellivision... He always made it a point to rub it in to ps3 fans last Gen on TXB on a monthly basis. Now that ps4 is selling more... He seems to have relegated his role to damage control. My how my quickly roles can shift every generation.
 
Well, seeing as this gen just began Im still inclined to think some of you are calling it over too quickly. If its only 300K in the US that the PS4 is leading, then I can see that lead shrinking tremendously after the release of Titanfall. Sonyboys can have their fun while it lasts.;)

Still pretty impressive with a console thats a whole $100 more though.
 
We all knew this was going to happen....selling a well known weaker system for 100$ more ? MS has had bad leadership for the last couple of years, somehow they thought they could sell mediocore crap under the Xbox brand name to people and they would just buy it. They will lower the price before E3 and with declining sales will probably sell off or just stop selling the Xbox brand.

That's your fanboy dream, isn't it?
 
If the xb1 was selling more, the thread maker would've been intellivision... He always made it a point to rub it in to ps3 fans last Gen on TXB on a monthly basis. Now that ps4 is selling more... He seems to have relegated his role to damage control. My how my quickly roles can shift every generation.
Every gamer knows PS4 would sell more (at least early on). A combination of $100 cheaper, constant negative MS sentiment, 3-4x more countries for PS4, an extra week early in the US (the biggest market). Even just one of these advantages is enough to carry the torch for a system, never mind 4.

It all came down to how much more PS4 would outsell X1. And with the endless 3:1 and 4:1 polls and surveys, the reality is it's not even close to that. And those polls didn't even take into account number of countries launching (which is now PS4 at about 50 and X1 at 13). It was just overall gamer sentiment and opinions.

So with all the disadvantages X1 has had all year, the fact they have sold so well and having a higher software attach ratio (despite being $100 more and semi-promoted as a media snapping hub.... tv, tv, tv!), it goes to show X1 has done much better than gamers thought.

If there's one thing that has disappeared from every game forum since December is all those old viewpoints of PS4 is going to destroy X1 by 3 or 4 to 1 ratios.
 
Every gamer knows PS4 would sell more (at least early on). A combination of $100 cheaper, constant negative MS sentiment, 3-4x more countries for PS4, an extra week early in the US (the biggest market). Even just one of these advantages is enough to carry the torch for a system, never mind 4.

It all came down to how much more PS4 would outsell X1. And with the endless 3:1 and 4:1 polls and surveys, the reality is it's not even close to that. And those polls didn't even take into account number of countries launching (which is now PS4 at about 50 and X1 at 13). It was just overall gamer sentiment and opinions.

So with all the disadvantages X1 has had all year, the fact they have sold so well and having a higher software attach ratio (despite being $100 more and semi-promoted as a media snapping hub.... tv, tv, tv!), it goes to show X1 has done much better than gamers thought.

If there's one thing that has disappeared from every game forum since December is all those old viewpoints of PS4 is going to destroy X1 by 3 or 4 to 1 ratios.

LOL at you trying to say X1 has a higher attach rate, show mw the digital sales for both systems.
 
Every gamer knows PS4 would sell more (at least early on). A combination of $100 cheaper, constant negative MS sentiment, 3-4x more countries for PS4, an extra week early in the US (the biggest market). Even just one of these advantages is enough to carry the torch for a system, never mind 4.

It all came down to how much more PS4 would outsell X1. And with the endless 3:1 and 4:1 polls and surveys, the reality is it's not even close to that. And those polls didn't even take into account number of countries launching (which is now PS4 at about 50 and X1 at 13). It was just overall gamer sentiment and opinions.

So with all the disadvantages X1 has had all year, the fact they have sold so well and having a higher software attach ratio (despite being $100 more and semi-promoted as a media snapping hub.... tv, tv, tv!), it goes to show X1 has done much better than gamers thought.

If there's one thing that has disappeared from every game forum since December is all those old viewpoints of PS4 is going to destroy X1 by 3 or 4 to 1 ratios.

Means nothing to me actually. Continue to fight good fight Intelli... nothing has changed, you''ll still be the same Xbox Supporter fro TXB and nothing in hell will every change that.

Well XB1 had to do alot of 180s incase you forgot to get to where they are right now.
 
LOL at you trying to say X1 has a higher attach rate, show mw the digital sales for both systems.
http://news.xbox.com/2014/01/xbox-one-december-npd
Fans continue to show their excitement for new generation Xbox One games, with U.S. consumers purchasing an average of 2.9 games* per console since launch.

*retail and digital (internal Microsoft data)

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-01-07-ps4-sells-4-2-million
PS4 sells 4.2 million
By Brendan Sinclair

TUE 07 JAN 2014 5:53PM GMT / 12:53PM EST / 9:53AM PST
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[UPDATE] 9.7 million retail and digital games sold as PlayStation Plus subscriptions jump 90%

9.7 / 4.2 = 2.3 games
 
Means nothing to me actually. Continue to fight good fight Intelli... nothing has changed, you''ll still be the same Xbox Supporter fro TXB and nothing in hell will every change that.

Well XB1 had to do alot of 180s incase you forgot to get to where they are right now.
Sure it means a lot to you. You've been a huge Sony fan since the TXB days and probably can't believe despite PS4's fortune of better pricing and internet praise, it's not beating X1 more than originally predicted. Also, X1 is releasing quality games. PS4's big exclusives are Knack and KZ. Zzzzzz. The next big one if Infamous. So we'll all have to see how good it is and how well gamers support it by buying it. Just to show how lacking the games are on PS4 at this point, the biggest attractions and online bickering is some multiplats with better res and/frame rate (fair points), and TR: Definitive Edition. A year old game that will sell a fraction of last years 360/PS3 game.

Since they launched, suddenly there has been absolutely zero interest or mention of Knack and KZ. And KZ's puny online community of 2,000 gamers (while CoD and BF are probably each 10x that) goes to show gamers have already moved on. Lots of sizzle, no steak.

Even before the 180s, I didn't mind their original strategy. I wanted to try out that Friends and Family sharing where one person could buy it and a bunch of people can link up with him and play it for free. Also, the mandatory online hookup was a non-issue as my game systems are always hooked up to the internet anyway (to a router, then to a cable modem that are both always on).
 
Sure it means a lot to you. You've been a huge Sony fan since the TXB days and probably can't believe despite PS4's fortune of better pricing and internet praise, it's not beating X1 more than originally predicted. Also, X1 is releasing quality games. PS4's big exclusives are Knack and KZ. Zzzzzz. The next big one if Infamous. So we'll all have to see how good it is and how well gamers support it by buying it. Just to show how lacking the games are on PS4 at this point, the biggest attractions and online bickering is some multiplats with better res and/frame rate (fair points), and TR: Definitive Edition. A year old game that will sell a fraction of last years 360/PS3 game.

Since they launched, suddenly there has been absolutely zero interest or mention of Knack and KZ. And KZ's puny online community of 2,000 gamers (while CoD and BF are probably each 10x that) goes to show gamers have already moved on. Lots of sizzle, no steak.

Even before the 180s, I didn't mind their original strategy. I wanted to try out that Friends and Family sharing where one person could buy it and a bunch of people can link up with him and play it for free. Also, the mandatory online hookup was a non-issue as my game systems are always hooked up to the internet anyway (to a router, then to a cable modem that are both always on).

I am a Sony fan(for the record though I bought a lumia 920 over the xperia) but I don't go out of my way to attack Xbox. Do you see me post in the XB1 section or even in the old TXB sections??? No I was always in the OCD threads. You on the other hand have a field day when your in the PS section of UnionVGF... this time you can't use the excuse that this is an Xbox forum like the TXB days and tell us to leave and look for a PS Centric site. Sure glad astro isn't here anymore made things a little bit more peaceful

And I never said Xbox was never gonna sell as bad as other sony droids made it sound like. Would it sell as much as ps4??? No, would it sell as Bad wii U? No. It will sell alot, its all dependent on how well MS can play their cards.


Edit: Also your The Order 1886 Avatar is trying to hard
 
I am a Sony fan(for the record though I bought a lumia 920 over the xperia) but I don't go out of my way to attack Xbox. Do you see me post in the XB1 section or even in the old TXB sections??? No I was always in the OCD threads. You on the other hand have a field day when your in the PS section of UnionVGF... this time you can't use the excuse that this is an Xbox forum like the TXB days and tell us to leave and look for a PS Centric site. Sure glad astro isn't here anymore made things a little bit more peaceful

And I never said Xbox was never gonna sell as bad as other sony droids made it sound like. Would it sell as much as ps4??? No, would it sell as Bad wii U? No. It will sell alot, its all dependent on how well MS can play their cards.
No doubt you're a Sony fan. Everyone here knows that.

And your Lumia over Xperia choice? Who cares. The clock radio I have is a black Sony model that I've had for 10 years. I get a company Blackberry for work, but if I had my own personal phone, I'd get a Samsung over Apple, MS, Sony, LG, HTC etc.... And the mouse I use for my PC/laptops are usually Logitech as opposed to one of those overpriced MS mice.
 
I don't know man MS as a company seems to be on a fail train as of late. People hate windows 8 windows phone is sucking ans surface is not doing well.

People are so silly. If they would take the 20 minutes (if that) it takes to get 8.1 or download one of many, many, many free start button apps they could have a far more stable OS that runs many games better and looks & feels just like W7.

Well, seeing as this gen just began Im still inclined to think some of you are calling it over too quickly. If its only 300K in the US that the PS4 is leading, then I can see that lead shrinking tremendously after the release of Titanfall. Sonyboys can have their fun while it lasts.;)

Still pretty impressive with a console thats a whole $100 more though.

Of course it's silly to call it over this soon.

Just as it's silly to think a game that's coming out on two other platforms with much, much higher userbases is somehow going to magically sell a ton of consoles.

http://news.xbox.com/2014/01/xbox-one-december-npd
Fans continue to show their excitement for new generation Xbox One games, with U.S. consumers purchasing an average of 2.9 games* per console since launch.

*retail and digital (internal Microsoft data)
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-01-07-ps4-sells-4-2-million
PS4 sells 4.2 million
By Brendan Sinclair

TUE 07 JAN 2014 5:53PM GMT / 12:53PM EST / 9:53AM PST
RETAILHARDWARE

[UPDATE] 9.7 million retail and digital games sold as PlayStation Plus subscriptions jump 90%

9.7 / 4.2 = 2.3 games

LMAO @ trumpeting .6 games.

.6

lol

Sure it means a lot to you. You've been a huge Sony fan since the TXB days and probably can't believe despite PS4's fortune of better pricing and internet praise, it's not beating X1 more than originally predicted.

Two words:

Low supply.
 
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I don't know man MS as a company seems to be on a fail train as of late. People hate windows 8 windows phone is sucking ans surface is not doing well.

No comments on Surface & Windows, but WIndows phone have been eating IOS & Andriod market share worldwide year on year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspe...-reaches-double-digit-market-share-in-the-uk/

Catching up with the latest data from the Kantar Worldpanel on smartphone sales for the three months to September 2013 shows Windows Phone gaining marketshare in a number of key territories. It has now broken through the 10% barrier in Italy (13.7%), France (10.7%), and for the first time the United Kingdom (11.4%).
 
I think what would be a fair assessment in NA, is that its not end of the world for MS (yet), as overall sales are not that far behind.

Launch sales are normally hard to evaluate the popularity of a console. WiiU sold amazing at launch also remember? The records sales we hear from MS and Sony, have more to do with them having massively more supply this time around.

Its how long after launch can a console sustain selling out every new stocks, & post the sellout honeymoon period, when supply have exceed meet demand, how much it sells consistently.

Which is why, the sales trend for XBOX ONE is worrying, even if you take PS4 out of the equation. 3rd month into launch, supplies have already exceeded demand, & 140k sales for brand new console is not fantastic number in my opinion. (360 was 240k with supply issue first Jan, even better the 2nd Jan, with PS3 launching, base on info by someone here)

Maybe we can say its decent number, then when we put PS4 back into the equation. It was selling almost 2X more with supply issue. We do not know how much more it was really more popular as they cannot supply enough, but at the minimum, its about 2x more popular in NA, the biggest market for console sales, & where MS was market Leader.

There will be a point when popularity of PS4 drop, & their supply exceeded demand, but its hard to tell when, maybe next month, maybe 6 months later.

If we think about worldwide sales, comparing only markets where both are available, the lifetime sales is even poorer for MS. No people do not hate MS & adore Sony, other than Japan, despite what people in America thinks.

5:1 spain, 2.5:1 Germany, 1.5:1 U.K etc & thats with Sony console being sold out for long period (except maybe U.K, not sure) .

If MS is happy with the sales numbers, or are happy to be a distant 2nd, then there is no need for any action. But I can't imagine that to be true, after gaining so much ground last gen.

They have to in my opinion (at a minimum) think about how to win back sales, & put them into action when the button is pressed.
 
I don't know man MS as a company seems to be on a fail train as of late. People hate windows 8 windows phone is sucking ans surface is not doing well.

You're not serious? Never mind 2 of the 3 products you're on about gets glaringly good reviews and reception.
 
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