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A lot of people or just the few loud voices HERE aren't happy about the lineup. So what. Like i said earlier, a launch lineup is not suppose to appeal to just one individual's preference as a particular genre doesn't revolve around them. This is exactly what happened with the Xbox; it was so busy catering to users who only played shooters (online) and racers with everyone else getting neglected. Therefore, fewer peope got the system. So when I say Sony has a great launch lineup compared to their pass systems, I'm not making that up because it's true. So if some fanboy is so insecure to the point where they have to downplay that, then it's not the lineup that's the problem.

I can tell you right now that out of that entire launch lineup, my interest is two of those game, but that doesn't make either of the other games any less deserving of being on that list, because what I don't like, someone else will. So it's not what I want. It's what the wider consumer wants.

And a double standard is when you defend the power behind next generation hardware just to tear it down when it doesn't fit your narrative. Games being cross gen isn't new for launch. Newer gen consoles have always followed this direction. Why? Because it takes advantage of that next-gen hardware for those wanting to pick one up. In the very same way old tech won't grant you ray-tracing, 3D audio or even better looking/more dense areas, in the case of PlayStation, none of them will grant you the feature set in the DualSense controller. So why would someone want to get a backwards compatible title if they didn't absolutely have to? It doesn't makes sense, and if you're going to defend that, then what's the point in worrying about how powerful your next system is? Keep your old system and call it a day.

You state a lot of opinion as fact but I suppose it's alright if it fits your narrative.
 
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You state a lot of opinion as fact but I suppose it's alright if it fits your narrative.

Like what exactly?

Here's a list of the history behind these games:


It's clear that the lineup they have are system sellers all rolled up into one package for launch. No Playstation platform has ever had such a stout launch before. So that's not an opinion and if it is, it is unanimously in favor of those titles being on the anticipation list of those wanting the platform either before or now.
 
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Reposting this from awhile ago because I‘be heard similar things:

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I think this would have been noticed when the console was being demoed.

Also, i thought I probably needed to show you this since it was from YOUR OWN SOURCE originally:

"RDNA 2 is a commercial abbreviation to simplify the market, otherwise GPUs with completely random features would come out and it would be difficult for the average user to choose", wrote Leonardi.

"For example, support for ray tracing is not present in any AMD GPU currently on the market. (...) The PlayStation 5 GPU is unique, it is not classifiable as RDNA 1, 2, 3 or 4."

"It is based on RDNA 2, but it has more features and,
I think, one less. That message came out badly, I was tired and I shouldn't have written the things I wrote", continued the engineer, complaining to have received insults for his statements.

 
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Ok. But you make it sound like the Xbox isn't dealing with this, too but on a more inferior scale. Yet, this is what everyone were doing flips over just a few pages back and how great it was as it was being compared to Sony's approach, and not once did anyone shoot it down other than a small few like myself who simply didn't agree because next-gen mattered more.

What I listed were actual next-gen titles. It doesn't matter how you may perceive them. This is what the launch lineup looks like, and this is what those interested in getting a PlayStation is going to see. It's clearly a robust lineup to anything PlayStation has ever done in the pass.

I don't like the way either console is headed so far. The only excuse I can find to even own a PS5 at this point is to possibly get better framerates/visuals with the 50+ PS4 games I own. At least on the XSX, there's a huge amount of games I missed out on (due to horrific internet) that I could play with Xbox Game pass which is a much better option for me right now, compared to the pathetic launch lineup that the PS5 has. On top of that, it's not a hideous, gaudy, massive, ridiculous looking device that would be sitting under my TV like the PS5 would/will be.
 
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I don't like the way either console is headed so far. The only excuse I can find to even own a PS5 at this point is to possibly get better framerates/visuals with the 50+ PS4 games I own. At least on the XSX, there's a huge amount of games I missed out on (due to horrific internet) that I could play with Xbox Game pass which is a much better option for me right now, compared to the pathetic launch lineup that the PS5 has. On top of that, it's not a hideous, gaudy, massive, ridiculous looking device that would be sitting under my TV like the PS5 would/will be.

Well, that's your opinion.

But, we're talking about the grand consumer base here, and this is what Sony is targeting with that device. So as you can see, it's not just about what one person like yourself wants, but what the majority wants. Spider-Man alone is a huge system seller on a global scale just by itself. It might not be your cup of tea, but any time someone wants to harm someone else over a face modification, you know that base is strong. Add every other system seller on there, from that list and you start garnering undeniable attention.
 
Well, that's your opinion.

But, we're talking about the grand consumer base here, and this is what Sony is targeting with that device. So as you can see, it's not just about what one person like yourself wants, but what the majority wants. Spider-Man alone is a huge system seller on a global scale just by itself. It might not be your cup of tea, but any time someone wants to harm someone else over a face modification, you know that base is strong. Add every other system seller on there, from that list and you start garnering undeniable attention.

Lol I've NEVER heard you say one positive thing about the Xbox. Like ever.

Is there anything that you like about the system? The rubber grommets on the base?
 


TBH I would rather they do this and let the teams take their time and polish. Later on in the gen (2 years) is when I expect Xbox first party to really kill it with output both visually and hopefully gameplay wise.
 
Like what exactly?

Here's a list of the history behind these games:


It's clear that the lineup they have are system sellers all rolled up into one package for launch. No Playstation platform has ever had such a stout launch before. So that's not an opinion and if it is, it is unanimously in favor of those titles being on the anticipation list of those wanting the platform either before or now.

It's right in front of you but you just choose to ignore it and go off on your own little rants, do me a favor and don't reply to my posts with your "facts" it was fun at first but it's grown tiresome, or maybe I'm just a grumpy wan*er, just leave me and my opinions alone.
 
I don't know how ANYONE thought they were keeping full visual fidelity @ 60fps. Another thing about DiRT 5- I thought this game was supposed to have raytracing...

I don't think anyone here did but there are morons on twitter saying "oh the Series X version will be native 4K, 120fps, RT" etc those people are Fn'g crazy lol. We aren't likely to get many if any AAA 60fps games with RT let alone anything at a higher framerate.

It's unfortunate for MS that they don't have any 1st party games or high end 3rd party AAA games ready to show that take advantage of the hardware, the previews for DIRT 5 and Yakuza don't actually make either game look great and the fact that keeping a locked 60fps makes you drop to 1080p for Yakuza isn't great PR either. Of course that is a turn based game and the drops happen when you have no actual control so you aren't going to feel it but it just doesn't look good on paper, you can get a mostly 60fps at 1440p or play at 30fps and 4K. It's also not the consoles fault it's the dev and the engine for sure, I still can't believe they took the series to a turn based RPG :(
 
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TBH I would rather they do this and let the teams take their time and polish. Later on in the gen (2 years) is when I expect Xbox first party to really kill it with output both visually and hopefully gameplay wise.

I think it's fine to be critical of MS and Phil Spencer for not having something that shows off the hardware for launch, that's totally fair, yeah Halo was supposed to be but that reception couldn't have come as a shock to them and console launches aren't last minute decisions, there should have been something else for soon after launch and so far it looks like they won't have anything other than Halo next year. They've been talking up the consoles power since they announced it and they have nothing to actually show it off yet.

I think it's also fair to be critical of the "software" company for being behind on their tools, there were going to be at least 2 launch games that didn't have RT ready to go on day one, now that Halo has been delayed it's only DMC5 as far as we know but why is it that we've seen PS5 games running with RT and nothing on Xbox yet? MS has gotten a lot of mileage out of just talking, all we've actually seen running on the console are old games and two multiplats that are cross-gen games and don't really do anything to show off the hardware which on paper is very capable. Spencer and his team have bungled this launch big time when it comes to actual games for the launch window and that shouldn't be glossed over IMO, yeah Jim Ryan is an unlikeable turd but at least his company has things to show.
 
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Down the line, I think you'll be proven wrong.

I should have included native 4K in that, I still think overall most games that push RT heavily (on a console scale) will likely be 30fps though.
 
I don't think anyone here did but there are morons on twitter saying "oh the Series X version will be native 4K, 120fps, RT" etc those people are Fn'g crazy lol. We aren't likely to get many if any AAA 60fps games with RT let alone anything at a higher framerate.

It's unfortunate for MS that they don't have any 1st party games or high end 3rd party AAA games ready to show that take advantage of the hardware, the previews for DIRT 5 and Yakuza don't actually make either game look great and the fact that keeping a locked 60fps makes you drop to 1080p for Yakuza isn't great PR either. Of course that is a turn based games and the drops happen when you have no actual control so you aren't going to feel it but it just doesn't look good on paper, you can get a mostly 60fps at 1440p or play at 30fps and 4K. It's also not the consoles fault it's the dev and the engine for sure, I still can't believe they took the series to a turn based RPG :(

can I be the fanboi who dreams/demands of Tetris Effect Connected at 120fps @ 4k on Series X
 
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Lol I've NEVER heard you say one positive thing about the Xbox. Like ever.

Is there anything that you like about the system? The rubber grommets on the base?

That's because you don't follow close enough. :)

And no, i don't like the rubber grommets on the base, but that's just my own opinion as that can differ amongst other users. But that doesn't mean that I'm going to go around expressing to others why I dislike them or how they should dislike like them, too. There's a difference.
 
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It's right in front of you but you just choose to ignore it and go off on your own little rants, do me a favor and don't reply to my posts with your "facts" it was fun at first but it's grown tiresome, or maybe I'm just a grumpy wan*er, just leave me and my opinions alone.

I wasn't ignoring anything. If you clearly look at the sales and ratings behind those titles (all of them), you can clearly see the amount of attention they've garnered over the years.That is not an opinion. That is a simple fact.

If the same studios are building those same games, it is only natural to believe the fan base will follow as well as the quality behind them. So again, if YOU don't like them, that's fine, but you can't expect everyone else to share your opinion because it's not about you or me or any single, other individual. It's about everyone who decides to game on that platform.
 
It's unfortunate for MS that they don't have any 1st party games or high end 3rd party AAA games ready to show that take advantage of the hardware
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Fanboys and console warriors are annoying, but this has also been a really weird console release that has made it worse. I mean we're spending most of our time analyzing old game performance. We didn't even know a price until recently, and even now we don't know if we're actually even going to be able to buy these things at launch (I still think a lot of people are going to be empty handed on launch day).
 
Fanboys and console warriors are annoying, but this has also been a really weird console release that has made it worse. I mean we're spending most of our time analyzing old game performance. We didn't even know a price until recently, and even now we don't know if we're actually even going to be able to buy these things at launch (I still think a lot of people are going to be empty handed on launch day).

To me it feels like this next generation of consoles is coming a year too early. The software to take advantage of the increase in performance just isn't here yet and most likely won't be for some time. Ohh well, at least I can have fun for a few hours marveling at the increased performance of some of the older titles I have.
 
Fanboys and console warriors are annoying, but this has also been a really weird console release that has made it worse. I mean we're spending most of our time analyzing old game performance. We didn't even know a price until recently, and even now we don't know if we're actually even going to be able to buy these things at launch (I still think a lot of people are going to be empty handed on launch day).
Is there even one game that you couldn't play at launch with curent gen console? I can think of only one Godfall on PS5.

I have no problem playing though....I have a PC.
 
Is there even one game that you couldn't play at launch with curent gen console? I can think of only one Godfall on PS5.

I have no problem playing though....I have a PC.
The Medium is only on Xbox Series X|S for console.
 
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It’s probably the most toxic I have seen the video game industry in my entire life.

 
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