There are definitely some crazies on both green and blue sides.
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There are definitely some crazies on both green and blue sides.
Agreed, and they are taking over social media. They are leaving game forums and going to places like Twitter and Facebook because their comments can be seen worldwide instead of confined to a membership in a forum.
North America, Spain, Japan, UK all have PS ahead?
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I care about games for both. Sure I want both companies to make money as that means more and better games in the future. But really, sometimes this forum feels like "Union Video Game Sales Forum" rather than a site about the fun of gaming.
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I care about games for both. Sure I want both companies to make money as that means more and better games in the future. But really, sometimes this forum feels like "Union Video Game Sales Forum" rather than a site about the fun of gaming.
Numbers Discussion Thread
I care about games for both. Sure I want both companies to make money as that means more and better games in the future. But really, sometimes this forum feels like "Union Video Game Sales Forum" rather than a site about the fun of gaming.
Numbers Discussion Thread
Total units sold from the ps vs xb brand don't lie. Go to any popular multi gaming site and you will see.
Numbers Discussion Thread
Total units sold from the ps vs xb brand don't lie. Go to any popular multi gaming site and you will see.
Numbers Discussion Thread
Total units sold from the ps vs xb brand don't lie. Go to any popular multi gaming site and you will see.
Don't know what to tell you. I am just going by MS and what Benji has said.
Yet, MS doesn't release their numbers... so how can you just blindly believe them?
Well, that means you are saying MS is lying. If that is the case, Sony is lying with fake numbers.
I believe them but you have to read between the lines with their PR.
They said they are having the best launch ever for them, which isn't a lie but this can still be less sales than Sony.
They said "for any product". I guess that could be PR, but that would the point be if they said "any product", but exclude PS?
Sounds like PR.
Are you referencing this? I don't see that quote there.
The Biggest Launch in Xbox History, All Thanks to You - Xbox Wire
Thanks to you, the launch of Xbox Series X|S is now the most successful debut in our history. While we missed the emotional spark of being together with you in person, it was incredible to celebrate a new generation of gaming with the millions on our celebration livestream and everyone who...
news.xbox.com
The original tweet by Benji got deleted by him?
Are you referencing this? I don't see that quote there.
The Biggest Launch in Xbox History, All Thanks to You - Xbox Wire
Thanks to you, the launch of Xbox Series X|S is now the most successful debut in our history. While we missed the emotional spark of being together with you in person, it was incredible to celebrate a new generation of gaming with the millions on our celebration livestream and everyone who...
The original tweet by Benji got deleted by him?
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Maybe this is why?
Yet you do... quite often.
Yes. At ONE POINT. It is a cherry picked scripted scene which happens once in the game where all you are doing is walking with NPC characters.
It was not a common problem at all. Frequent fps drops would be, but this isn't. Listen to someone who has the game on the actual console.
I wouldn't be defending the game if it dropped like that with any kind of noticeable frequency.
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I comment on the multiplatform comparisons because I, like many others, were curious regarding any power deltas between the 2 new consoles for the new multiplatforms. My initial prediction was that the XSX version would be the best out of the 2 and the PS5 would be holding up pretty well. In reality, this does not appear to be the case for many of the newer games.
So you would conclude that this new patch is actually worse for the Xbox versions of this game from your experience? Not doubting your experience but that's pretty interesting to me since pretty much all the other analysts like DF, VGTech and NXGamer conclude the opposite.
Better to wait for NPD. As you have pointed out, MS will not be releasing any numbers.
Well, you claim they butchered the game on PS5 with the update, DF says otherwise.
Butchered seems like a harsh word. I'll just say that the PS5 version didn't seem to need the patch. The reason why the Xbox Series consoles needed a patch was to more aggressively change the DRS so that fps performance would be better, something that DF suggested. The new PS5 patch introduced more screen tears and according to one analyst (VGTech), the game now holds 60FPS less consistently than before.
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You're being duped by articles that are cherry picking scenes. The first one cherry picked the scene and the others all picked the exact same one time in game scene where NPCs are all walking with torches out. (I assume they all copy DF). That scene just happens to be in the intro of the game, so people are focusing on it, yet it seems like a one off thing.
The patch made my game worse, because the fps drops were very infrequent. If the game dipped into the 40s with any regularity, I'd be all over calling it out. I didn't spend $500 to get 40 fps instead of 60. This game ran great prior to the patch. The combat was fluid and if you get your timing right, you win the fight. It isn't dropping frames with any severity I could tell.
Yes "horrible", because it added more issues when the game was running perfectly fine pre patch.
And even then we won't know. What do do know is that MS considers Xbox+Microsoft Windows PC their platform (and soon to be xCloud), so in reality, their user base already dwarfs all.
Why is anyone thinking that these games are the final word on console performance? This is just the tip of the iceberg.
NPD is the best estimate of console sales that we know of in North America.
I definitely expect MS to talk more about users numbers and all that as the generation goes on to move away from console sales numbers.
I don't think anyone's thinking that.
But I'm pretty sure most of us here have predicted the XSX to come out on top just due to all the power talks and discussions this thread has had over the summer with MS talking about how they created the most powerful console ever, 12tflops > *, and articles/posters were saying that PS5 would not be able to sustain those high GPU frequencies, performance would take a hit going down to 9.2 tflops etc. Basically when people were still guessing at how the consoles would perform.
Just look at the first 5-10 pages of this thread and you can see the general sentiment of how grand the XSX would be, posters laughing about Cerny's PS5 presentation. It's interesting to see that this is not the case at all with both consoles launched now. Now the talk has shifted to toolsgate, manufacturer delays, GDK delays, just wait for devs to get acquainted with the tools, patches will fix things to get parity or more... a significant change in the general sentiment of both consoles from half a year ago.
PS3 won but 360 won NA well won vs PS3 but came behind wiiWhere did you get that metric?
The PS3 surpassed the X360 worldwide months before the launch of the PS4 and Xbox One. This was with the Xbox 360 launching a year earlier and also $200 cheaper launch price.
Who Finally Won: PS3 or Xbox 360? - The Escapist
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"As of March 2017, the PS3 had moved 87.4 million units, surpassing the final recorded Xbox 360 tally of 84 million in 2014. Who knows what those machines racked up in terms of late sales over the past five years, but it’s remarkable to discover how close they were to each other all by the final accounting."
"So what does this all mean? Why does Xbox 360 vs PS3 still matter? The actual decisive numbers of which console sold more and when is irrelevant when considering that the pop cultural narrative is false. The Xbox 360 actually didn’t blow the PS3 out of the water. In fact, the Wii decimated them both with 101 million sold. The PS3 actually had value even despite its flaws. The system is way better than Western gamers gave it credit for and the numbers prove it."
Don't know the numbers specifically but wouldn't doubt it. The 360 had a spectacular start in 2005. I remember seeing NPD reporting 360 numbers on top for a while at the beginning.
As someone who plays on XSX with a tv with VRR, this patch is a s*** ton worse since I went from having a great time to not being able to play because the game thinks I'm in combat so I can't save, fast travel or presumably anything else that you have to do once in a while in a gajillionteen hour game.
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