3rd party games sell better and have more online players on consoles 95% of the time.
The majority of PC builds can't touch these consoles,so many games won't come and will be worse.
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The majority of PC builds can't touch these consoles,so many games won't come and will be worse.
PC competitive gaming is the absolute worse due to hackers and this will never change.
I used to triple dip but not no more it's out of control.
A lot of the analysis by gamers in this enthusiast gaming bubble ignores the rest of the trends prior to covid. Gaming has been growing steadily and projected to continue prior to covid. Gaming is a very sticky industry...meaning that once people become entrenched in it, there's a high probability it stays as part of their overall lifestyle. Of course casuals don't know what Game Pass is. At one time, they didn't know what FIFA, COD or Fortnite was either. That's why the numbers don't exist in a vacuum. At a certain point, mindshare hits a tipping point and the brand becomes a household name. Fortnite was a failed AA game before it's free to play mode caught on. A year after it seemed dead, it was firmly entrenched in popular culture.
There's parts of the world where consoles barely exist yet there's heavy PC gaming populations. Then you have countries that have far more advanced internet infrastructure than the US. In South Korea, the Xcloud beta had more engagement than in the US and Microsoft had little console presence there.
Mindshare flips very fast in the technology sector. Discord and Fortnite are the best examples of how something with no brand name can take over popular culture and become entrenched in relatively short time periods when 1) people get excited about a product and 2) it's accessible and convenient to try out.
Subscriptions are where the power players will control the gaming industry in the future. It's been projected that way for some time now. They're just waiting on the technology to become more widespread. These projections were prior to Game Pass getting any sort of traction which it now has.
Last year I listened to industry people say that the negative connotations associated with Microsoft and it's lack of popular culture "cool factor" wouldn't allow them to lead in gaming and that they were just setting the table for Apple or Amazon to come in and eat their lunch eventually. A bad reputation or mindshare association is worse than no reputation in these things. I think that's maybe what you're getting at...but let's see. It seems that the negative connotations of the corporation can be forgotten once they own staple IPs.
It will be available on every device with a browser. PlayStation is teeny tiny segment of the world's gaming market. 5G and the low latency backend tech will make game streaming "good enough" for most of the world.
Billions of PCs and mobile devices are a big enough target market that they can overlook the less than a quarter of a billion PlayStation consoles.
People who game on browsers are a different market LOL the spin is getting out of hand.
Lowering the barriers to entry will increase the size of the market.....exponentially. Streaming started as a niche thing for Netflix too.
Yeah, it's definitely easier to get hacks on PC which sucks. But the mouse and keyboard is too good for me to give up on it. At least in OW and League in my experience, hackers are rare.
It really depends on the game in my experience. If the devs work hard on anti-cheat, they can at least make it so that cheating isn't rampant. If developers ignore the issue (for example BF V), it can be a total joke. Games like Rainbow Six do a pretty good job keeping cheating to a minimum (after getting embarrassed by pro tournaments getting cheaters in them).
The big problem with FPS games on console now is people use hardware cheats that give them a mouse and keyboard, but with controller aim assist and recoil scripts on top. Console makers seem unable or unwilling to do anything about those kinds of things. People actually left the console R6 comp scene for PC because it had fewer issues.
I said this a few weeks ago. Most people don't understand ML. It doesn't mean one thing. Both are more capable than previous gen hardware. It doesn't come for free. There is a cost to run real-time ML. This is the devilish detail. We don't know specifics yet but Microsoft waited to gain more efficiencies so that ML would come with less cost. How much less cost verse PS5 is unknown. It is the thing they thought was so important that they waited.
Has this been confirmed officially or just guesses?
I don't believe there are anything in XS die shots that show dedicated ML hardware from what I've been reading.
Was posted already, but we will post it again:
wccftech.com
It is always challenging to compare hardware, as they always have advantages and disadvantages. It is not just a matter of CPU or frequency; it is more about the consistency of the components and the possibilities of advanced features.
The CPU of the two consoles uses the same processor (slightly faster on Xbox Series X), the GPU of the Xbox also seems more powerful, as it is 16% faster than the PS5 GPU, with a bandwidth that is 25% faster. The transfer speed from the SSD is twice as fast on PS5.
The shader cores of the Xbox are also more suitable to machine learning, which could be an advantage if Microsoft succeeds in implementing an equivalent to Nvidia’s DLSS (an advanced neural network solution for AI).
Overall, I think that the pure analysis of the hardware shows an advantage for Microsoft, but experience tells us that hardware is only part of the equation: Sony showed in the past that their consoles could deliver the best-looking games because their architecture and software were usually very consistent and efficient.
This seems to be exactly what Microsoft is pushing right now. Earlier this week, alongside the announcement that Xbox Series S and X are the only next-gen consoles featuring the full AMD RDNA 2 architecture, Microsoft's engineers specifically highlighted these capabilities.
Xbox Series X’s Advantage Could Lie in Its Machine Learning-Powered Shader Cores, Says Quantic Dream
Xbox Series X's Advantage Could Lie in Its Machine Learning-Powered Shader Cores, Says Quantic Dream
Looking at the hardware of Xbox Series X and PS5, Quantic Dream believes Microsoft's advantage could lie in the console's ML-powered shaders.
wccftech.com
It is always challenging to compare hardware, as they always have advantages and disadvantages. It is not just a matter of CPU or frequency; it is more about the consistency of the components and the possibilities of advanced features.
The CPU of the two consoles uses the same processor (slightly faster on Xbox Series X), the GPU of the Xbox also seems more powerful, as it is 16% faster than the PS5 GPU, with a bandwidth that is 25% faster. The transfer speed from the SSD is twice as fast on PS5.
The shader cores of the Xbox are also more suitable to machine learning, which could be an advantage if Microsoft succeeds in implementing an equivalent to Nvidia’s DLSS (an advanced neural network solution for AI).
Overall, I think that the pure analysis of the hardware shows an advantage for Microsoft, but experience tells us that hardware is only part of the equation: Sony showed in the past that their consoles could deliver the best-looking games because their architecture and software were usually very consistent and efficient.
This seems to be exactly what Microsoft is pushing right now. Earlier this week, alongside the announcement that Xbox Series S and X are the only next-gen consoles featuring the full AMD RDNA 2 architecture, Microsoft's engineers specifically highlighted these capabilities.
Was posted already, but we will post it again:
Xbox Series X’s Advantage Could Lie in Its Machine Learning-Powered Shader Cores, Says Quantic Dream
Xbox Series X's Advantage Could Lie in Its Machine Learning-Powered Shader Cores, Says Quantic Dream
Looking at the hardware of Xbox Series X and PS5, Quantic Dream believes Microsoft's advantage could lie in the console's ML-powered shaders.
It is always challenging to compare hardware, as they always have advantages and disadvantages. It is not just a matter of CPU or frequency; it is more about the consistency of the components and the possibilities of advanced features.
The CPU of the two consoles uses the same processor (slightly faster on Xbox Series X), the GPU of the Xbox also seems more powerful, as it is 16% faster than the PS5 GPU, with a bandwidth that is 25% faster. The transfer speed from the SSD is twice as fast on PS5.
The shader cores of the Xbox are also more suitable to machine learning, which could be an advantage if Microsoft succeeds in implementing an equivalent to Nvidia’s DLSS (an advanced neural network solution for AI).
Overall, I think that the pure analysis of the hardware shows an advantage for Microsoft, but experience tells us that hardware is only part of the equation: Sony showed in the past that their consoles could deliver the best-looking games because their architecture and software were usually very consistent and efficient.
This seems to be exactly what Microsoft is pushing right now. Earlier this week, alongside the announcement that Xbox Series S and X are the only next-gen consoles featuring the full AMD RDNA 2 architecture, Microsoft's engineers specifically highlighted these capabilities.
Okay, sounds like it's up to MS to see if they can implement an equivalent to Nvidia's DLSS then? Hope it's not another "wait for the power of the Cloud processing" thing like last gen.
We already see ML capabilities being run on PS5 hardware in Miles and it looks great. I would like to read more and see the differences when this XS ML "advantage" comes to light, guess we have nothing to do but wait.
Interesting though that another dev said this:
Confirmed. Both on and off the record.
The Xbox Series hardware is really damned good. There are some caveats. I've learned that developers will have to change pipelines in order to truly maximize it. Not sure if that applies to PS5 as well. For games already long in development, they're not going to leverage many of it's features. Assuming there is no mid gen refresh, a lot of it's potential will be seen second half of the gen. The ML stuff will take awhile because those models take time to refine.
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Nice. can't wait to see it in action whenever that is.
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That is a different market.
People who buy Playstation and whatever the hot thing at the time(which is usually PS)
Want to order a console or walk in and buy a console and be done with it.
Streaming games or playing on a web browser types are a different breed.
It's impossible for such a service to take off and change the industry without being on every device.
MS wants GP on PS and I believe Sony shot them down.
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The gap will start widening.
Guess who just f***ing realized it's a different market, everyone!
Console companies generally hope to break even at launch on their consoles and make their money on software (and now services). Fortunately for them, every dollar they earn counts towards the bottom line, not just those spent on the console.
PS5s were sitting at Walmart for the day a few days ago. Seems it happens to both. Seems the gap continues to narrow.
You're projecting your wants and priorities onto the world. Look....theres always the outside possibility that your read on the market is better than all the market research and megacorporation insights combined. Doubt it though.
Honestly, as long as MS continues with Gamepass, release their new first party devs games and keep making the most powerful hardware, I don't care if they sell like ass.
If anything, PS outselling them means bad things for the Ponys, Sony will never learn from their huge mistakes of not going with the times and when they do it'll be too late.
RIP Sony
If anything, PS outselling them means bad things for the Ponys, Sony will never learn from their huge mistakes of not going with the times and when they do it'll be too late.
RIP Sony
Just think what would have sold if there hadn't been supply issues on both sides.
There's definitely new stock dropping every week, it is just sporadic and hard to find.
I'm betting between Xbox and PS I put in a good dozen hours finding one to purchase. It is crazy.
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